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tismesoitis · 21-12-2015 11:10PM

killed a young stock bull that went wrong today. 2 months feeding after being taken away from cows. would be 2 years old on wednesday. got 3.70 graded u+2= 451kgs.

Base price · 22-12-2015 11:24PM

See the end is finally nigh for heavy cattle.
The one thing that I cannot figure out is the Beef Data and Genomics scheme. To me it seems like a contradiction, on one hand paying farmers to produce quality continental cattle and on the other factories penalising them for same.
Are we just playing into Larry & factories hands again or are my views jaundiced :rolleyes:
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/factories-treatment-of-heavy-cattle-to-change-later-this-month/

Cavanjack · 22-12-2015 11:55PM

Base price wrote: »

See the end is finally nigh for heavy cattle.
The one thing that I cannot figure out is the Beef Data and Genomics scheme. To me it seems like a contradiction, on one hand paying farmers to produce quality continental cattle and on the other factories penalising them for same.
Are we just playing into Larry & factories hands again or are my views jaundiced :rolleyes:
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/factories-treatment-of-heavy-cattle-to-change-later-this-month/

You are dead right. Sure even the grid doesn't make sense. Why Pay top money for a u grade animal that won't have the correct fat cover unless it is a big weight (in the case of bullocks anyway). Then penalise an o grade black or white head animal that's the "in-spec" weight of <380kg.
If that's the animal they want the top place on the grid should be for o-r grade animal under 380kg. Farmers should be rewarded for producing to spec, not rewarded in one way and penalised in another.

tismesoitis · 23-12-2015 12:29AM

Do these car case weight restrictions cover steers and heifers as well as Bulls ? What about cull cows?

Cavanjack · 23-12-2015 09:12AM

tismesoitis wrote: »

Do these car case weight restrictions cover steers and heifers as well as Bulls ? What about cull cows?

Yeah cover Bulls, steers and heifers but would be rare for heifers to be killed over 400kg dw anyway. Don't think it matters with cows as the majority go into the mincer anyway (open to correction).

rangler1 · 23-12-2015 10:31AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

You are dead right. Sure even the grid doesn't make sense. Why Pay top money for a u grade animal that won't have the correct fat cover unless it is a big weight (in the case of bullocks anyway). Then penalise an o grade black or white head animal that's the "in-spec" weight of <380kg.
If that's the animal they want the top place on the grid should be for o-r grade animal under 380kg. Farmers should be rewarded for producing to spec, not rewarded in one way and penalised in another.

From what I hear you will be rewarded after Christmas for under 380, your reward will be that you won't be cut 30-40c/kg'
For overfat/overweight lambs we're cut 25c/kg and give free meat as well in the case of overweight.............you won't be long learning

Willfarman · 23-12-2015 11:40AM

Cormac Healy is shark.. He knows there's extra numbers coming on stream from next fall and when a shark gets a whiff of blood.......

It will all depend on the weekly kill as to to when they will really implement this.

simx · 23-12-2015 01:19PM

P €3
Os €3.10
Rs €3.40
Cow prices

restive · 25-12-2015 11:25PM

I got €3.90 base from kepak for underage steer on Christmas Eve.

Robson99 · 25-12-2015 11:34PM

restive wrote: »

I got €3.90 base from kepak for underage steer on Christmas Eve.

What carcass weights they paying up to??

Cassidy2 · 26-12-2015 10:02AM

simx wrote: »

P €3
Os €3.10
Rs €3.40
Cow prices

Is there not more than that to be got for p and os

Cavanjack · 26-12-2015 02:00PM

Robson99 wrote: »

What carcass weights they paying up to??

Killed a load a few weeks ago and two of them were 480kg dw. Wasn't docked anything on them.

restive · 26-12-2015 02:43PM

Robson99 wrote: »

What carcass weights they paying up to??

Mine killed out 385kg. Do not sure.

Robson99 · 26-12-2015 03:13PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Killed a load a few weeks ago and two of them were 480kg dw. Wasn't docked anything on them.

Where was that???

Cavanjack · 26-12-2015 04:21PM

Robson99 wrote: »

Where was that???

Clonee

simx · 28-12-2015 08:19PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Is there not more than that to be got for p and os

Rang a few places €3 flat for them was all, 2.80 and 2.90 in one place

Kovu · 28-12-2015 08:21PM

simx wrote: »

Rang a few places €3 flat for them was all, 2.80 and 2.90 in one place

Any idea what R cowss are at the moment?

Cassidy2 · 28-12-2015 08:26PM

simx wrote: »

Rang a few places €3 flat for them was all, 2.80 and 2.90 in one place

Better off in the ring than take them prices

epfff · 28-12-2015 09:19PM

Kovu wrote: »

Any idea what R cowss are at the moment?

Got quoted 330
Their is 340 to be got but lots of cows out their

Kovu · 28-12-2015 09:25PM

epfff wrote: »

Got quoted 330
Their is 340 to be got but lots of cows out their

Thanks for that, have one guy quoted 3.50 to me but never used him before as an agent. Have a bit of time to play around with at least, only have them on a ration to maintain their weight since start of Dec when the arse fell out of the cow trade.

Cavanjack · 31-12-2015 10:13PM

Notice cattle that have been killed this back end have killed out very fat compared to other years.
Nothing killed under a fat score of 3+ with the majority 4 to 4+. A few Angus heifers went to 5's.
Don't know if it was that cattle thrive was excellent from September on and they fleshed up quicker or that we wernt keeping a close enough eye on them. Is it madness feeding to this level of fat score or would a 3- do?
Is there a sweet spot?

Cassidy2 · 31-12-2015 10:56PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Notice cattle that have been killed this back end have killed out very fat compared to other years.
Nothing killed under a fat score of 3+ with the majority 4 to 4+. A few Angus heifers went to 5's.
Don't know if it was that cattle thrive was excellent from September on and they fleshed up quicker or that we wernt keeping a close enough eye on them. Is it madness feeding to this level of fat score or would a 3- do?
Is there a sweet spot?

There is alot of men holding cattle because they will lose a fortune if they killed them.fat class will be a problem there

Willfarman · 01-01-2016 01:42PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Notice cattle that have been killed this back end have killed out very fat compared to other years.
Nothing killed under a fat score of 3+ with the majority 4 to 4+. A few Angus heifers went to 5's.
Don't know if it was that cattle thrive was excellent from September on and they fleshed up quicker or that we wernt keeping a close enough eye on them. Is it madness feeding to this level of fat score or would a 3- do?
Is there a sweet spot?

3+ 4= is the sweet spot for plainish cattle to ensure you maximise conformation grade. Good continental cattle are as well gone at 3=. Particularly going forward if this weight limit craic takes hold.

farawaygrass · 01-01-2016 02:03PM

Willfarman wrote: »

3+ 4= is the sweet spot for plainish cattle to ensure you maximise conformation grade. Good continental cattle are as well gone at 3=. Particularly going forward if this weight limit craic takes hold.

Is there anyone here that can tell the difference by eye between 3+ and 4- or 4=?

patsy_mccabe · 01-01-2016 03:46PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

Is there anyone here that can tell the difference by eye between 3+ and 4- or 4=?

Hard enough to judge the fat score when you are not at it every day. I used to judge by the fat around the tail head but someone on here had a good post a while back . It went along the lines of judging different types of cattle differently. Can't remember who it was.

Robson99 · 01-01-2016 08:12PM

Willfarman wrote: »

3+ 4= is the sweet spot for plainish cattle to ensure you maximise conformation grade. Good continental cattle are as well gone at 3=. Particularly going forward if this weight limit craic takes hold.

Mostly u grade heifers killed here. Always try and feed them into 4- or 4= if possible. But would agree weight limits would be a factor in us killing them at 3=

Cassidy2 · 02-01-2016 11:09AM

Anyone got price for bulls under 24 months.can 4 euro be got for r u grade under 420kg

epfff · 02-01-2016 12:02PM

Cassidy2 wrote: »

Anyone got price for bulls under 24 months.can 4 euro be got for r u grade under 420kg

390 u
380 r is all I can get to 400

moll3 · 02-01-2016 12:51PM

what are heifer's being quoted at the moment down south

Cassidy2 · 02-01-2016 05:33PM

epfff wrote: »

390 u
380 r is all I can get to 400

Same as that but up to 430 kg

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