Connacht vs Ulster sportsground 18:00 TG4/BBCNI

connachta · 26-12-2015 5:48pm

freyners wrote: »

Jake heenan togged. Number 24 it seems

Jake in a cake!!:D

Utopia Parkway · 26-12-2015 6:07pm

Carty really overdoes the grubbers.

LuckyGent88 · 26-12-2015 6:09pm

Should have scored a try from that pressure.

connachta · 26-12-2015 6:13pm

TG4 have given the same pack-weights I gave yesterday, one kilo difference

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 6:19pm

Dopey from Matt Healy. Should have been a yellow. He clearly sees Trimble in front of him as he's jumping. He didn't try to compete for the ball once he got there. Not too many officials would have been so lenient on that one.

Very little difference between that and the infamous Payne incident.

Sinbad_NI · 26-12-2015 6:20pm

Yellow surely.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 6:23pm

Triumvirate wrote: »

Very little difference between that and the infamous Payne incident.

There was a world of difference. Including the fact that Healy jumped and trimble didn't land dangerously.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 6:27pm

errlloyd wrote: »

There was a world of difference. Including the fact that Healy jumped and trimble didn't land dangerously.

That is not a "world of difference"; that's hyperbole.

They both contested a high ball with a late arriving player taking the man out in the air. Both were late arriving, both took the opposition player out. Neither got anywhere near the ball.

The only differences were that Healy jumped but did so in just a token fashion with no effort to compete. He may as well have not though as he didn't get into the same postcode as the ball and went through Trimble's legs and his contact on the player was near identical. He never looked at the ball either when he was getting there. Should have been carded immediately for reckless play.

connachta · 26-12-2015 6:28pm

Hold until 60 min as Connacht bench is better

thomond2006 · 26-12-2015 6:28pm

Epic defence from Connacht, flying into tackles.

Inspector Coptoor · 26-12-2015 6:29pm

What a hit by Marmion on the Ulster 6

Blackclaret · 26-12-2015 6:31pm

Marmion, great hit..

swiwi_ · 26-12-2015 6:32pm

Connacht are really missing not having a better 10 on the field IMO. The 10/12 is not going well for them. Lots of possession for no points. I'd figure Ulster will just suck this up and then start to put on some points of their own.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 6:35pm

Triumvirate wrote: »

That is not a "world of difference"; that's hyperbole.

Probably a good thing you pointed out I didn't literally mean an entire alternative reality globe of difference existed. I think you cleared up a lot of potential confusion.

Rewatch the Payne incident and then rewatch healy. Healy wasn't late. He slowed down before the ball landed, meaning he had less lateral speed, and jumped in meaning he hit trimble higher. Hence trimble was actually fine.

Payne was genuinely late. At full sprint and with no elevation. He took out goode. He didn't deserve a red, but it was a significantly worse foul. Imo.

Blackclaret · 26-12-2015 6:38pm

If IRFU want to turn Madigan into a top class ten reckon it's Galway they should be sending not Limerick.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 6:38pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Probably a good thing you pointed out I didn't literally mean an entire alternative reality globe of difference existed. I think you cleared up a lot of potential confusion.

Rewatch the Payne incident and then rewatch healy. Healy wasn't late. He slowed down before the ball landed, meaning he had less lateral speed, and jumped in meaning he hit trimble higher. Hence trimble was actually fine.

We disagree, which is fine.

Do you have to be so obnoxious and condescending, though?

.ak · 26-12-2015 6:40pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Probably a good thing you pointed out I didn't literally mean an entire alternative reality globe of difference existed. I think you cleared up a lot of potential confusion.

Rewatch the Payne incident and then rewatch healy. Healy wasn't late. He slowed down before the ball landed, meaning he had less lateral speed, and jumped in meaning he hit trimble higher. Hence trimble was actually fine.

Payne was genuinely late. At full sprint and with no elevation. He took out goode. He didn't deserve a red, but it was a significantly worse foul. Imo.

Triumvirate wrote: »

We disagree, which is fine.

Do you have to be so obnoxious and condescending, though?

Less of the snipes, both of you.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 6:44pm

Triumvirate wrote: »

We disagree, which is fine.

Do you have to be so obnoxious and condescending, though?

Fair. I didnt mean to.

the original message obviously didn't read the way I'd intended. Sorry.

flouncer · 26-12-2015 6:48pm

connachta wrote: »

Hold until 60 min as Connacht bench is better

agree again connachta

wp_rathead · 26-12-2015 6:50pm

Healy lucky didnt get binned tbh
Great game, great atmosphere, keep thinking Ulster have a second row out on their backline then cop it is McCloskey ha
Needed that pen that Ronaldson missed to go over though.. Ulster coming into it more and more

flouncer · 26-12-2015 6:52pm

when our proper 1-3 are put on then things will happen. even rodney over nathan

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 6:53pm

Connacht need a lot more patience and composure from their halfbacks. They're getting into the right areas of the field and turning over cheaply. Ulster haven't been great but Jackson has moved the ball with more pace and accuracy.

Overall, not really too great a game as of yet. Full blooded but no real stand out quality moments.

swiwi_ · 26-12-2015 6:55pm

Andy Ward's hybrid Whangarei/NI accent is weird. Keep expecting him to throw in a few "eh's" & "bro's". Jarred still sounds Kiwi as.

McGinty should start the 2nd 40 for Connacht, otherwise I reckon Ulster win.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 6:58pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

Andy Ward's hybrid Whangarei/NI accent is weird. Keep expecting him to throw in a few "eh's" & "bro's". Jarred still sounds Kiwi as.

McGinty should start the 2nd 40 for Connacht, otherwise I reckon Ulster win.

Ropey kick from carty. You might be correct.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:07pm

It had been excellent discipline from Ulster until that concession. They're looking rock solid in defence and Connacht lacking any real incision in the backline. A lot of side to side play that is being well contained.

Defence ruling the roost for both sides. Connacht miss another shot....costly.

A-Train · 26-12-2015 7:07pm

A poor miss by Connacht again in such a tight game

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 7:08pm

After the missed kick, a guy in the stand definitely had a green latern shirt on. I know someone on here was asking about them.

Utopia Parkway · 26-12-2015 7:09pm

2 bad misses from Ronaldson now. Could be costly in such a low scoring game.

.ak · 26-12-2015 7:14pm

I love Muldoon, he's a beast and an absolute leader but he's so petulant.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 7:20pm

Should the penalty be where the ball dropped, and if so is the advantage over?

connachta · 26-12-2015 7:21pm

Ok Fitzy!!!

Sinbad_NI · 26-12-2015 7:21pm

How's that a yellow but the first half tackle in the air was just a penalty. Not great.

bilston · 26-12-2015 7:21pm

Not convinced by that to be honest.

bilston · 26-12-2015 7:23pm

Sinbad_NI wrote: »

How's that a yellow but the first half tackle in the air was just a penalty. Not great.

Well if Fitzgibbon decides Marshall deliberately takes him out then it's a yellow so we can't argue the sanction if he thinks that is what Marshall has done, but I think it is debatable that that is what Marshall did.

molloyjh · 26-12-2015 7:24pm

bilston wrote: »

Not convinced by that to be honest.

I wasn't at first, but on the replay it was fairly obvious.

errlloyd · 26-12-2015 7:24pm

bilston wrote: »

Well if Fitzgibbon decides Marshall deliberately takes him out then it's a yellow so we can't argue the sanction if he thinks that is what Marshall has done, but I think it is debatable that that is what Marshall did.

I think it's the trip that makes it an automatic yellow. Marshall did stretch that leg.

bilston · 26-12-2015 7:25pm

molloyjh wrote: »

I wasn't at first, but on the replay it was fairly obvious.

Not sure about fairly obvious but given I'm looking at it through Ulster coloured spectacles you may be right. I'd need to see it again at full speed.

Edit - if it was intentional it was pretty dumb play because I don't think that particular Connacht player was getting to the ball first. Clumsy play by the half backs in the first place mind,

.ak · 26-12-2015 7:27pm

Ah Marshall definitely stuck the leg out to stop the other player, absolutely cynical.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:32pm

Dense from Pienaar. They had been managing the sin bin very well for the past 5 minutes, all in Connacht's half.

Connacht with a shot at moving in front now.

All in all, a really mediocre game though. 3-3 after 69 minutes...not a ringing endorsement. Although Fitzgibbon did manage to stop the most creative piece of play in the match there. Not really his fault though.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:35pm

McGinty not much better than Carty, unfortunately. Missed touch from a penalty by a distance and a heavily sliced kick makes touch but hands back possession with 9 minutes left gaining only 20m.

Whichever side concedes a penalty will lose it.

Korat · 26-12-2015 7:40pm

Hell of a catch by Diack, I thought that was going all the way over.

vkid · 26-12-2015 7:41pm

Not the most riveting game really.. felt that ulster score coming for a while..

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:42pm

That's game. Nick Williams with the try and probably deserves MOTM for the amount of times he has shown up around the park. Good carry and line from Marshall.

The real work was done beforehand. Just more composure and incision from the Ulster back line when they moved it to push play right down into Connacht's 22 and create the situation.

26-12-2015 7:44pm

Wheels could start to come off the cart now after 3 losses from 4 games. Traditionally we struggle late in the seasons too and its certainly setting up for it again.

Utopia Parkway · 26-12-2015 7:44pm

vkid wrote: »

Not the most riveting game really.. felt that ulster score coming for a while..

They didn't really look like scoring before that but once they got a lineout and then scrum so close it was always a possibility.

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:47pm

Think that final play summed up Connacht's night. Shovel, shovel, shovel to midfield who fights to take it back to the gain line. Collector's item for Jackson there, stripping Aki, I think.

In bad need of a 10.

connachta · 26-12-2015 7:49pm

At least a BP

Cosmo Kramer · 26-12-2015 7:53pm

A real feel of old Connacht about that second half effort. Very poor stuff. The missed touch from McGinty when Ulster were still down to 14 was the turning point and then Ulster had two chances to win it and took the second one. Connacht never really looked like scoring a try in the whole of the second half and at home, that's just not good enough.

wp_rathead · 26-12-2015 7:56pm

MacGinty missing his touch with penalty was real momentum changer
I would been dissapointed had it finished 3-3 so to lose was kick in the nads
Fair play to Ulster though

Triumvirate · 26-12-2015 7:56pm

TG4 not pulling any punches. Have the lowlight reel of the outhalves lined up.

Connacht vs Ulster sportsground 18:00 TG4/BBCNI

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