LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Red Kev · 19-12-2015 11:05AM

That Hyundai is also about the same size as an E-Class, so it's no great shakes size wise.

bear1 · 19-12-2015 11:07AM

Thread is gonna go downhill if we are classing Hyundai's as luxobrages

Duke O Smiley · 19-12-2015 11:10AM

I don't know - it fits the bill of what a "luxobarge" is surely (unless I'm hopelessly missing something) but yes, I certainly can't really see the point of it here. I don't think anybody will even buy it for the 08 reg, because there is still the issue of the Hyundai badge on the front!

I still find it strangely alluring. If I could afford to buy and run it and it was €2k I would be on my way to Sligo

Arthur Daley · 19-12-2015 11:50AM

I don't know there is something to be said for it. You also have the rarity value. Ok the interior is that bit low rent compared to the germans/jag/volvo/lexus but if you can live with that, lets's face it we've taxed worse.

Then it would take one almighty gulp once a year preferably with a good stiff drink in hand to pay that 1,809 tax bill and block the H word from your conciousness.

landmarkjohn · 19-12-2015 12:09PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I don't know - it fits the bill of what a "luxobarge" is surely (unless I'm hopelessly missing something) but yes, I certainly can't really see the point of it here.

Well it is over 3 litre and has more than 4 cylinders so it does tick a couple of boxes. It's interesting to see what the other manufacturers have produced to try and compete with the Germans and Lexus.

ofcork · 19-12-2015 06:34PM

That looks the exact same as the sonata.

19-12-2015 07:48PM

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Only use I can see is as a taxi.

Funeral car for Cavan

unkel · 19-12-2015 07:56PM

I've been struggling to come up with something good to say about that car. But I've found it! It's got 6 weeks tax on it

unkel · 19-12-2015 08:01PM

Found another positive thing! If the owner decided to NCT it in 2 weeks time and it passes, it will have nearly 30 months test left!

(till then end of June 2018)

mickdw · 19-12-2015 08:26PM

unkel wrote: »

Found another positive thing! If the owner decided to NCT it in 2 weeks time and it passes, it will have nearly 30 months test left!

(till then end of June 2018)

Its not possible to test 6 months early and still get cert to original reg date.

unkel · 19-12-2015 08:32PM

That's what I thought but if you book the car in for the test and select a date this month, you get a warning about voluntary early booking (earlier than 90 days before the due date), with the test only valid for 2 years from date of the test. If you select a date next month, you don't get this warning

Perhaps a bug on the site then?

mickdw · 19-12-2015 09:03PM

unkel wrote: »

That's what I thought but if you book the car in for the test and select a date this month, you get a warning about voluntary early booking (earlier than 90 days before the due date), with the test only valid for 2 years from date of the test. If you select a date next month, you don't get this warning

Perhaps a bug on the site then?

Perhaps a bug. It's certain that there is no 6 month early testing now even for first test. You must be inside 90 days to get cert to reg date.

Big Nasty · 20-12-2015 08:58PM

I'd actually take that car over a W220 or E65.

Furzy · 20-12-2015 11:27PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

I'd actually take that car over a W220 or E65.

.... Why??

..... not being facetious - I'd like to know why you'd prefer it. I'm not prejudiced against Hyundai - I had one of the first S-coupes way back in 1991 and it was probably my favourite car ever, but compared to other Luxobarges this seems cheap and plastic.

Eric Cartman · 20-12-2015 11:29PM

I don't think it looks bad, but I bet it feels bad. No matter what hyundai want to do , they just don't have the germans experience in wrapping cow around things and putting soft feel high quality plastics in. It seems like a good car, but not a great car. With so many other savage machines going for half nothing in the 1809 tax bracket, id find it very hard to say why I'd buy this over some of the others.

Brasso · 21-12-2015 03:17AM

Nice looking '01 E38 740i with 1 years NCT asking €3,800.

Big Nasty · 21-12-2015 07:03AM

Furzy wrote: »

.... Why??

..... not being facetious - I'd like to know why you'd prefer it. I'm not prejudiced against Hyundai - I had one of the first S-coupes way back in 1991 and it was probably my favourite car ever, but compared to other Luxobarges this seems cheap and plastic.

Because it's not as fugly.

Eric Cartman · 21-12-2015 03:17PM

Brasso wrote: »

Nice looking '01 E38 740i with 1 years NCT asking €3,800.

I always find it mad, in the UK when the e38 was on its way out in 2001 they threw loads of spec at it for free (nav, dsp and the comfort seats usually, sometimes a bit more) even a lot of the late 00-01 728i's have a few toys on them. Somehow this just never happened for Ireland , and whether import or not , somebody somehow managed to find an e38 that got the sports wheel, xenons and literally nothing else.

Voodoomelon · 21-12-2015 05:44PM

Looks in good nick.
Unless back in the day, these cars sat on forecourts for yonks before they were registered, could be an early 2000 model.

bear1 · 21-12-2015 06:01PM

I heard once that Ireland usually gets the leftovers from the UK market which is why we usually get the crappy spec in cars. Wonder if that's true? But I've heard also that for e.g. Passats here are spec'd better than they are in the UK. Weird huh.

Eric Cartman · 21-12-2015 06:03PM

bear1 wrote: »

I heard once that Ireland usually gets the leftovers from the UK market which is why we usually get the crappy spec in cars. Wonder if that's true? But I've heard also that for e.g. Passats here are spec'd better than they are in the UK. Weird huh.

Irish people don't buy extras or look at the options brochures, dealers have to throw on bits as "standard" so that they're not trying to pedal exec saloons with cloth seats and manual boxes.

I don't think we get the 'crappy' cars, just people don't order the spec. VW tooling up golf's to the hilt for demo models is about all we see of high spec.

bear1 · 21-12-2015 06:07PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Irish people don't buy extras or look at the options brochures, dealers have to throw on bits as "standard" so that they're not trying to pedal exec saloons with cloth seats and manual boxes.

I don't think we get the 'crappy' cars, just people don't order the spec. VW tooling up golf's to the hilt for demo models is about all we see of high spec.

I remember my mother bought in 2005 a brand new Almera and I couldn't believe how basic a spec it was for a 21k car.
No AC, front only elec windows, 2 airbags I believe etc and it wasn't even the bog standard version. Sp you are partially right also when it comes to the mentality.
Am I also right in thinking that revenue commisioners here load a premium on cars with a higher spec? or is that just when you are privately importing?
But.. my parents are ****e when it comes to buying cars

Eric Cartman · 21-12-2015 06:10PM

bear1 wrote: »

I remember my mother bought in 2005 a brand new Almera and I couldn't believe how basic a spec it was for a 21k car.
No AC, front only elec windows, 2 airbags I believe etc and it wasn't even the bog standard version. Sp you are partially right also when it comes to the mentality.
Am I also right in thinking that revenue commisioners here load a premium on cars with a higher spec? or is that just when you are privately importing?
But.. my parents are ****e when it comes to buying cars

well extras have VRT on them, and performance extras may change the VRT rate on a car too, so in the old days you would have been paying 36% on top of the real cost to le gubberment. vrt is still there, but obviously now we have lower rates for lower emissions cars.

21-12-2015 06:30PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

well extras have VRT on them, and performance extras may change the VRT rate on a car too, so in the old days you would have been paying 36% on top of the real cost to le gubberment. vrt is still there, but obviously now we have lower rates for lower emissions cars.

Exactly and VAT rate is higher for a country with a lower disposable income on average.

mickdw · 21-12-2015 06:43PM

Unusual situation now where vw are pushing highline models on pcp with lower interest resulting in very similar costs to lower spec models.
Should see a flood of nicely specd passat on the road.

Red Kev · 21-12-2015 08:30PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Irish people don't buy extras or look at the options brochures, dealers have to throw on bits as "standard" so that they're not trying to pedal exec saloons with cloth seats and manual boxes.

I don't think we get the 'crappy' cars, just people don't order the spec. VW tooling up golf's to the hilt for demo models is about all we see of high spec.

Up until a few years ago the average Merc or BMW here had a far higher spec than German ones, so you're wrong there.

FWIW I used to export high end cars from Germany to Africa, trying to get a decent spec on anything up to 2003-5 was seriously difficult.

Eric Cartman · 21-12-2015 08:56PM

Red Kev wrote: »

Up until a few years ago the average Merc or BMW here had a far higher spec than German ones, so you're wrong there.

FWIW I used to export high end cars from Germany to Africa, trying to get a decent spec on anything up to 2003-5 was seriously difficult.

but the brands are thought of differently. In germany many people would buy a 318 with cloth seats just as a family car, like somebody here would buy an avensis. In Ireland having a bmw is a status symbol and its considered an executive car, the reason the spec was higher here is as I said above , Irish people don't like the options brochure, dealers would spec up cars to make them fit the executive image that the badge instilled.

In germany you would have a load of family runarounds with cloth seats in manual, equally you would find one in germany fully kitted with navigation and leather sports seats etc.. that you would never find in Ireland.

22-12-2015 09:51AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

but the brands are thought of differently. In germany many people would buy a 318 with cloth seats just as a family car, like somebody here would buy an avensis. In Ireland having a bmw is a status symbol and its considered an executive car, the reason the spec was higher here is as I said above , Irish people don't like the options brochure, dealers would spec up cars to make them fit the executive image that the badge instilled.

In germany you would have a load of family runarounds with cloth seats in manual, equally you would find one in germany fully kitted with navigation and leather sports seats etc.. that you would never find in Ireland.

That's not true, BMW is a premium brand even in Munich, in fact you'll probably find a higher proportion here. My brother has worked for BMW for 5 years in Munich and even with an employee discount most colleagues treat driving a BMW as an unnecessary luxury.

Duke O Smiley · 23-12-2015 04:14PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-grandeur-3-3v6/10921155?sv=true

A 2008 car with NCT well into text year, low miles, leather, xenon, cruise, electric and heated everything and all for around €2500. Theres only one catch...

Spotted today in Dublin..!

Eric Cartman · 23-12-2015 05:12PM

and a decent taxi it makes. Was the only thing it could become realistically.

LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

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