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Smoking with kids in the car - Illegal now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    What about the obese n ten ton merchants,surly the Garda should carry scales n a BMI index card,in the squad car, and give the offender a slap of the dizzy stick before hitting em with a fine based on tonnage.
    Fine could be increased if they are found to be eating , drinking and smoking at the same time,seen a lad the other day,looked like a hoof sticking out of his gob,could of been a kids arm or leg, coul't see with all the smoke,and he was standing in a disabled car parking space,if I were a guard I'd have given him an extra slap of the dizzy stick for that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Maybe we need to regulate people's lifestyle? Not good enough to stop at drinking/smoking, maybe a state prescribed diet, total ban on fast food and sweets, compulsory minimum exercise regime, minimum amount of sleep and maybe regular mental assessments by the state health board, to weed out and re-educate dissenters. There would have to be a secret state police with almost unlimited powers to gain entry into people's houses for spot checks, maybe cameras installed in the home and cars and a generous reward program for informants.
    After all, this is for everyone's good, so maybe it's worth giving up all free will for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    If I want to breath smoke I'm my children's face I should be allowed. They belong to me and nobody can tell me what to do with them. My parents smoked in the car and it never did me any harm!

    /s

    They belong to you? Like as in they're your property? I think you'll find that social services/garda/the courts CAN tell you what to do with them.....people are not property... No matter if they're your children or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Maybe we need to regulate people's lifestyle? Not good enough to stop at drinking/smoking, maybe a state prescribed diet, total ban on fast food and sweets, compulsory minimum exercise regime, minimum amount of sleep and maybe regular mental assessments by the state health board, to weed out and re-educate dissenters. There would have to be a secret state police with almost unlimited powers to gain entry into people's houses for spot checks, maybe cameras installed in the home and cars and a generous reward program for informants.
    After all, this is for everyone's good, so maybe it's worth giving up all free will for?

    It's the effect on other people here that matters. As is fairly obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    368100 wrote: »
    They belong to you? Like as in they're your property? I think you'll find that social services/garda/the courts CAN tell you what to do with them.....people are not property... No matter if they're your children or not.

    He did end with /s.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    He did end with /s.

    Oh, if it was sarcasm then fair enough, my bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Only the most stupid and selfish smokers will think this is a bad idea.

    It's says a lot for the mentality of a significant number of smokers that such legislation is required.


  • Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PARlance wrote: »
    It obviously couldn't be policed actively, but an avenue of reporting could be established.


    Read about that in a book once. Written as fiction, but is rapidly turning into an instruction manual.

    Maybe we need to regulate people's lifestyle? Not good enough to stop at drinking/smoking, maybe a state prescribed diet, total ban on fast food and sweets, compulsory minimum exercise regime, minimum amount of sleep and maybe regular mental assessments by the state health board, to weed out and re-educate dissenters. There would have to be a secret state police with almost unlimited powers to gain entry into people's houses for spot checks, maybe cameras installed in the home and cars and a generous reward program for informants.
    After all, this is for everyone's good, so maybe it's worth giving up all free will for?

    Hear, hear.

    So many people would seem to want to live and die and give the bit in the middle to someone else to look after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Maybe we need to regulate people's lifestyle? Not good enough to stop at drinking/smoking, maybe a state prescribed diet, total ban on fast food and sweets, compulsory minimum exercise regime, minimum amount of sleep and maybe regular mental assessments by the state health board, to weed out and re-educate dissenters. There would have to be a secret state police with almost unlimited powers to gain entry into people's houses for spot checks, maybe cameras installed in the home and cars and a generous reward program for informants.
    After all, this is for everyone's good, so maybe it's worth giving up all free will for?
    ALL Hail ,dr.fussenstein, you are our new messiah ,
    I'm all or''helping''+''advising'' folk ,especially if the use of a dizzy stick is involved.
    Baby's could be fitted with them go pro cams, or dash cam's that shock or incapacitate individuals smoking and drinking or indulging in fornication while driving or operating a vehicle.
    Gaurds could patrol check outs and tazer or baton charge anyone caught or suspected of supplying sugar to minors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭Shep_Dog


    Nope. The home has certain constitutional protections while there is no expectation of privacy driving your car in a public place.

    Smacking children in the home is not allowed, so your privacy argument really only relates to the possibility of being caught.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Read about that in a book once. Written as fiction, but is rapidly turning into an instruction manual.




    Hear, hear.

    So many people would seem to want to live and die and give the bit in the middle to someone else to look after.

    We don't care about you. Don't abuse kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Only the most stupid and selfish smokers will think this is a bad idea.

    It's says a lot for the mentality of a significant number of smokers that such legislation is required.

    If you learn anything from AH let it be that this covers most smokers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Read about that in a book once. Written as fiction, but is rapidly turning into an instruction manual.

    Hear, hear.

    So many people would seem to want to live and die and give the bit in the middle to someone else to look after.

    Absolutely. Of course I forgot the media. It should be monitored and gagged, so that nothing is said that will offend all these millions of so so precious and special little flowers that will wither and die at the sight of anything being broadcast that might not agree with their worldview.
    Some people would rather we would all sit still at the table with our hands on the table top where they can see them! :D:P
    Luckily I'm old enough not to give a sh*t. If smoking and drinking was made illegal, I would just bring it in by boat. And I don't even smoke! :eek:
    I might have to take it up again out of sheer spite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Read about that in a book once. Written as fiction, but is rapidly turning into an instruction manual.

    Good story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I still don't understand the question in the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    It was a pas de calais,as Del Boy wud say, a kind of play on word's with a bit of style I thought,that's
    just my taste anyhow,me throats at me somefink awfull tonite,can feel sweet afton n Artur comming on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    dslamjack wrote: »
    It was a pas de calais,as Del Boy wud say, a kind of play on word's with a bit of style I thought,that's
    just my taste anyhow,me throats at me somefink awfull tonite,can feel sweet afton n Artur comming on.

    I actually understand the OP less now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭screamer


    Im delighted to hear this. Its morally wrong it is to choke your kids with your smoke because you can't do without your fix. I look forward to a few prosecutions for such parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    OOHH Fred that's a mighty big question, at least a 5 pint dilemma that,well they'd deffo have to have jack boots(my auld gran used to call the blue shirts and Nazis,jack booted nancy boy's) some thing smart along the lines of a greatcoat with a pinstripe.
    I all ways think ye can't go far wrong with a nice pinstripe,red of course like them gendarmes in Italy.
    Aye them lad's might batter ya stupid,but they have got style,I'll give them that. /s


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    This post has been deleted.

    We could breed special squadrons of Nazi zombies:

    https://vampyrefangs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/nazi_zombies.jpg

    Now I'm off to smoke out a maternity ward with a couple of Zuban cigars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Reminds me of a proud young mother I met once. She boasted how she had given up smoking all the time she was pregnant, then lit up and told me she was breastfeeding...knew it was wrong

    There is a huge difference between what crosses the placenta and what gets in breastmilk. While it would obviously have been better if she'd stayed off the cigarettes, it's less harmful to the baby to smoke and breastfeed than it is to smoke and formula feed. As the breastmilk can mitigate some of the damage caused by the baby's 2nd and 3rd hand exposure to the toxins while formula can't.


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