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  • #4532
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    Will it not tightened in the new year


  • #4533
    primary 2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭primary 2


    i thought that cattle were ment to be scarce this year according to the farmers journal and teagasc advisors that going by the figures and what what was exsported in 14,if numbers are plentilfull now we are in big trouble from january 2017 for a while


  • #4534
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    My uneducated guess is that numbers will tighten up in the first couple of months of the new year. Cattle thrive well this back end and were killed quicker.
    Listened to coveney interview in Nigeria this morning. He's confident on opening China for beef in the first quarter of 2016 and manufacturing beef to the US. If one of them at self came good it might relieve some pressure this time next year. He'll do his best I suppose with an election coming.


  • #4535
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    If you listen to them organization's you will be poor


  • #4536
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    My uneducated guess is that numbers will tighten up in the first couple of months of the new year. Cattle thrive well this back end and were killed quicker.
    Listened to coveney interview in Nigeria this morning. He's confident on opening China for beef in the first quarter of 2016 and manufacturing beef to the US. If one of them at self came good it might relieve some pressure this time next year. He'll do his best I suppose with an election coming.

    he's going to try another spin of the China and US market record. That record is wore very thin now...
    Would we be lucky enough for him to ffin stay in Nigeria.
    Would Andrew Doyle have enough standing in the party to get the job??


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  • #4537
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Willfarman wrote: »
    he's going to try another spin of the China and US market record. That record is wore very thin now...
    Would we be lucky enough for him to ffin stay in Nigeria.
    Would Andrew Doyle have enough standing in the party to get the job??
    Doyle, Wouldn't think so but who knows what goes on behind closed doors.
    As for Nigeria I wouldn't have thought theyd want too much of our 'premium grass fed beef'. Milk powder mission I suppose.


  • #4538
    Good loser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Willfarman wrote: »
    he's going to try another spin of the China and US market record. That record is wore very thin now...
    Would we be lucky enough for him to ffin stay in Nigeria.
    Would Andrew Doyle have enough standing in the party to get the job??

    Coveney is as good as you'll get. You're too ambitious Wfm.

    Imo the future is not looking at all good.


  • #4539
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Good loser wrote: »
    Coveney is as good as you'll get. You're too ambitious Wfm.

    Imo the future is not looking at all good.

    Lads have short memories. Not even 5 years ago yet.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/factories-row-back-on-low-steer-offers-as-farmers-refuse-less-than-330ckg-26665254.html


  • #4540
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97946964

    Post in that thread by Dawgone cattlle he sold. Price in France higher for finished cattle. Look what he sold his calves for! People paying to much here for young cattle.


  • #4541
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    barnaman wrote: »
    Lads have short memories. Not even 5 years ago yet.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/factories-row-back-on-low-steer-offers-as-farmers-refuse-less-than-330ckg-26665254.html

    2.80 in 09. .... There was good money made finishing cattle in 10 and 11. To be honest barns in my system it's actually easier to get a turn in a poor beef price bad market... Can be very easy to buy value at times.
    And a poor price doesn't mean less production, as we will witness now in the dairying industry, perversely poor price tends to drive production as producers try even harder to survive.


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  • #4542
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭kk.man


    When ABP take over Slaney we might as well give them the cattle for free!


  • #4543
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Willfarman wrote: »
    2.80 in 09. .... There was good money made finishing cattle in 10 and 11. To be honest barns in my system it's actually easier to get a turn in a poor beef price bad market... Can be very easy to buy value at times.
    And a poor price doesn't mean less production, as we will witness now in the dairying industry, perversely poor price tends to drive production as producers try even harder to survive.

    I was making more money in 10 and 11 when was getting 3.20 a kg and buying continental stores back in at 1.80 kg [dates and prices are approx off top of me head]


  • #4544
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    kk.man wrote: »
    When ABP take over Slaney we might as well give them the cattle for free!

    Can't understand how this can be allowed to happen when they will control over 50% of the market. Anyone know the laws on this and can the competition authority stop it?


  • #4545
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Weanling/store prices are mad. l have been putting off buying. Will lads be just as cracked next spring?


  • #4546
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Was not farming in 10 or 11 father was but now getting to enjoy the slog. But saw figures back then and agree with ye on finishing side. I am in suckler to finish and store to finish so seeing both sides. Stores here in particular weanlings/light stores crazy prices unless very efficient high numbers finishing system. Sucklers are in certain respects a disaster as so much hassle to keep cows; not just expense but the sheer looking after of them. The diary lads will take alot of that trade if he crosses a Hereford or AA on his heifers/spare cows he can breed AAX or HEX cattle that will attract the premium under the AA and HE schemes. Cattle should kill out as Rs, market no longer wants big carcasses so fact not put on much weght as cointental not matter.

    My predictions for 2016 are we will sooner rather than later hit a base of €3.50 to €3.70. Weanling price for 2016 will take a fair drop too.

    Now hopefully like all predictions that is wrong and we are well back over €4


  • #4547
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Muckit wrote: »
    Weanling/store prices are mad. l have been putting off buying. Will lads be just as cracked next spring?

    The minute some fellas see grass irrespective of the finished price they do go cracked.


  • #4548
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    kk.man wrote: »
    The minute some fellas see grass irrespective of the finished price they do go cracked.

    Was look at mart online in kilmallock at tea time this morning for a few minutes ... Holy Jesus 'twas bad. Big over 30 month friesian bullock 775 kg 1130... He was fuppin worth that last may!


  • #4549
    ellewood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Was look at mart online in kilmallock at tea time this morning for a few minutes ... Holy Jesus 'twas bad. Big over 30 month friesian bullock 775 kg 1130... He was fuppin worth that last may!

    Local small plant paying 3.80 flat a few weeks ago for over age over weight non Qa bullocks a few weeks ago - What would he have made there 15-1600??

    As an aside - there under 30 mth comrades getting same feeding graded a lot more P's !!


  • #4550
    juniorfarmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭juniorfarmer


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Was look at mart online in kilmallock at tea time this morning for a few minutes ... Holy Jesus 'twas bad. Big over 30 month friesian bullock 775 kg 1130... He was fuppin worth that last may!

    killed a freisian last week cause he broke his tail on the slats, and was at risk to a spinal injury cause the blood would not stop dripping. got 3.72 a kilo for him as he graded o= and the base was 3.90. that freisian in killmallock will prob kill 395 kilos dead and if he grades the same way my fella does.... well the fella that bought him will be smiling.... however u'd wonder what was the fella thinking, selling him?


  • #4551
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭kk.man


    You wouldn't buy him for that money last may! If he's over age and over weight now the factories will have a field day with the likes of that Fr. Agree smaller plants give a much better price for outside the spec cattle and that still make money! So the big guns must make a fortune on these cattle.

    I suppose one must pay for the upkeep of the ranches, private jet, helicopter, sports horses etc


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  • #4552
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Anyone kill over 24 month bulls recently? Price per kilo?


  • #4553
    epfff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭epfff


    barnaman wrote: »
    Anyone kill over 24 month bulls recently? Price per kilo?

    Can't get u24 in
    Got u16 today anything over 400kgs not on grid


  • #4554
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    barnaman wrote: »
    Anyone kill over 24 month bulls recently? Price per kilo?

    Stock bull price


  • #4555
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Thanks lads tried ringing usual agent no answer. Been bloody awful getting cattle in. 2 bulls to go should gone before now both just over 24 months. Reckong would be stock but afraid how low that will be. Yeah going to get a weight penalty as over 400k


  • #4556
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Epfff is that over 24 can't be got in or under 24. Have a young stock bull will be 24 months on the the 23rd of this month, he had a dodgey front leg .how much can I expect for him he'll be close to an E grade,


  • #4557
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    barnaman wrote: »
    Thanks lads tried ringing usual agent no answer. Been bloody awful getting cattle in. 2 bulls to go should gone before now both just over 24 months. Reckong would be stock but afraid how low that will be. Yeah going to get a weight penalty as over 400k

    Was talking to a man that got quote for bulls over 420 kg was being cut 40 cent. Unreal


  • #4558
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    I can believe it going to be all change next year they really want handy sized cattle. Between cull cows and these 2 bulls my humour is not improving!


  • #4559
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    Well clough what's your opinion?


  • #4560
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cassidy2 wrote: »
    Well clough what's your opinion?

    All they want is HEx and AAx cattle grass fed and they'll soon be looking at testing the water with the 24mt notion for steers and no more than 350kg dw. And the reason they will is because they can.


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  • #4561
    epfff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭epfff


    tismesoitis wrote: »
    Epfff is that over 24 can't be got in or under 24. Have a young stock bull will be 24 months on the the 23rd of this month, he had a dodgey front leg .how much can I expect for him he'll be close to an E grade,

    Under 24

    If he is near e grade ge will have to have a lot of feeding to get a cover on him
    Had au+2- today can't figure as I thought they all same in fat (3-) u16 wasn't pretty and claimed to have done me a favour not to have cut more


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