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whelan2 · 01-12-2015 03:35PM

I bought it in. We blood everything over 2 years at the Tb test. Will continue to do so. Would hope the numbers will start dropping. Since I got rid of the positives the rest of the cows look alot better. Would nearly know one is positive now before she is tested at all.

Timmaay · 01-12-2015 03:54PM

Have 11 of the lightest spring heifers on grass full time, with about 1.5kg of ration, my dad is annoying me to give them some silage also as he says the quality gone out of the grass. At best the silage they will get will be 68/69dmd. I'm very slow to do this as they could get lazy and not bother eating the grass instead, I don't want to give them any silage unless they get housed for a few days with poor weather etc, does that sound reasonable?

keep going · 01-12-2015 04:04PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Have 11 of the lightest spring heifers on grass full time, with about 1.5kg of ration, my dad is annoying me to give them some silage also as he says the quality gone out of the grass. At best the silage they will get will be 68/69dmd. I'm very slow to do this as they could get lazy and not bother eating the grass instead, I don't want to give them any silage unless they get housed for a few days with poor weather etc, does that sound reasonable?

what ever you do dont give them silage on grass

Mad4simmental · 01-12-2015 04:07PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

What's concrete going for atm?
8m3 in a load?

€70 cash. 35N

Greengrass1 · 01-12-2015 05:53PM

keep going wrote: »

what ever you do dont give them silage on grass

Neighbour doing that here. Pike of grass I'm the paddock all thete doing is eating the silage and tramping the grass

trixi2011 · 01-12-2015 07:24PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Had 11 in first test. They are all gone. Think it was 9 this year they are all gone. Working now on offspring of those positives. It's a fecker of a disease. Positives went to factory. Isolated at calving.

40 here at risk in milk test going to blood test them to see what there story is

whelan2 · 01-12-2015 07:51PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

40 here at risk in milk test going to blood test them to see what there story is

you will get false positives, had a 10 year old cow came up positive if she really had it theres no way she would have lived to that age

Sam Kade · 01-12-2015 07:54PM

Just have a second calver abort about 2 months from calving :mad: Does the calf need to be tagged to send to the lab, should I also send off a bvd sample?

Milked out · 01-12-2015 08:26PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Just have a second calver abort about 2 months from calving :mad: Does the calf need to be tagged to send to the lab, should I also send off a bvd sample?

Last time I brought one they looked for tag, bvd sample must be done as well iirc or they'll send the txt saying no sample received for the calf as it'll be registered

trixi2011 · 01-12-2015 08:30PM

whelan2 wrote: »

you will get false positives, had a 10 year old cow came up positive if she really had it theres no way she would have lived to that age

one of the positives is a big fat old girl wouldn't think she has it, did you have any cinical cases used lose 5/6 cows to it every year in nz

whelan2 · 01-12-2015 08:41PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

one of the positives is a big fat old girl wouldn't think she has it, did you have any cinical cases used lose 5/6 cows to it every year in nz

ye had 1 or 2 every year, the testing really showed up any of the thinner/under performing cows as positives

Snowfire · 01-12-2015 10:54PM

Does anyone actually use the disinfectant swabs that come with dry cow tubes, personally I never do, and it seem such a waste to be throwing them in the bin unopened, but it takes too long to open the individual teat swab packets. Quick spray of methylated spirits more my style.

Milked out · 01-12-2015 10:59PM

Snowfire wrote: »

Does anyone actually use the disinfectant swabs that come with dry cow tubes, personally I never do, and it seem such a waste to be throwing them in the bin unopened, but it takes too long to open the individual teat swab packets. Quick spray of methylated spirits more my style.

Methylated spirits with cotton wool used here. One type of tube came with those wipes but were made out of a better fabric than most and were ok to use can't remember the name

Mehaffey1 · 02-12-2015 12:54AM

Wish we'd test for johnes and start to cull it out, hateful seeing a cow waste away with it.

Psyching up for herd testing in half an hour. 5 people in a 40 unit herringbone and milk 720 cows, going to be hell in 30 degree heat. Least we get to do it all again tomorrow am haha

Damo810 · 02-12-2015 02:02AM

whelan2 wrote: »

I bought it in. We blood everything over 2 years at the Tb test. Will continue to do so. Would hope the numbers will start dropping. Since I got rid of the positives the rest of the cows look alot better. Would nearly know one is positive now before she is tested at all.

Old boss told me that he tested for Johnes just after his test and half the herd came up positive, rang up and they told him there had to be a 6 month gap between I think otherwise you'd get a false reading?

whelan2 · 02-12-2015 07:14AM

Damo810 wrote: »

Old boss told me that he tested for Johnes just after his test and half the herd came up positive, rang up and they told him there had to be a 6 month gap between I think otherwise you'd get a false reading?

Thats for the milk test. Blood is fine on day of tb test

Brown Podzol · 02-12-2015 11:45AM

Snowfire wrote: »

Does anyone actually use the disinfectant swabs that come with dry cow tubes, personally I never do, and it seem such a waste to be throwing them in the bin unopened, but it takes too long to open the individual teat swab packets. Quick spray of methylated spirits more my style.

I use them, but there is always two people drying off here, one tending other tubing. The ones left over are handy for cleaning screens, phone etc and great for cleaning the dry wipe marker from the white board. I'm that tight I'll throw away nothing.

stretch film · 02-12-2015 12:39PM

Apart from liners. How often do you change rubber ware. Usually change every second year alternating milk and pulse.
Between holding off for another year and making full use of browns advise on the wet wipes we might survive these tightened times.

C0N0R · 02-12-2015 12:55PM

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Wish we'd test for johnes and start to cull it out, hateful seeing a cow waste away with it.

Psyching up for herd testing in half an hour. 5 people in a 40 unit herringbone and milk 720 cows, going to be hell in 30 degree heat. Least we get to do it all again tomorrow am haha

Why doing it twice? We used to only do it in the morning. Lic aye?

Greengrass1 · 02-12-2015 01:34PM

Weighed spring born heifers this morning.
Smallest fr is 220 kgs
Biggest fr is 320 kgs. Happy enough with them tbh. Going to get 1.5 kgs from now till end of jan and then out to grass mid feb

Greengrass1 · 02-12-2015 02:16PM

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/cost-production-no-1-factor-driving-dairy-farmers-profits/

Il just leave this here........

Sam Kade · 02-12-2015 03:09PM

What dry cow tubes do ye use? I priced cepravin but they are a crazy price €1.96/tube. What's the best value for 60 days dry?

whelan2 · 02-12-2015 03:21PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

What dry cow tubes do ye use? I priced cepravin but they are a crazy price €1.96/tube. What's the best value for 60 days dry?

bovaclox extra here

Deepsouthwest · 02-12-2015 03:21PM

Anyone booked into the dairy conference in Kilkenny nxt wk? Giving it serious consideration here

mahoney_j · 02-12-2015 03:50PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

What dry cow tubes do ye use? I priced cepravin but they are a crazy price €1.96/tube. What's the best value for 60 days dry?

Orbenin extra + boviseal 9 euro

frazzledhome · 02-12-2015 04:55PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Anyone booked into the dairy conference in Kilkenny nxt wk? Giving it serious consideration here

I'm going for the overnight bit. Not sure about second day, may be a little shook

Henwin · 02-12-2015 05:12PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Thats for the milk test. Blood is fine on day of tb test

Is blood more accurate than milk or are they the same?

whelan2 · 02-12-2015 06:28PM

Henwin wrote: »

Is blood more accurate than milk or are they the same?

Think you have to do the milk one twice. The reason we blood is that some of the animals would be dry at the time of testing. Every animal 2 years old and up are done. Dont think any johnes testing is 100% accurate

kevthegaff · 02-12-2015 06:57PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/cost-production-no-1-factor-driving-dairy-farmers-profits/

Il just leave this here........

Link doesn't work gg

kevthegaff · 02-12-2015 08:12PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/cost-production-no-1-factor-driving-dairy-farmers-profits/

Il just leave this here........

Link not working gg

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