Motors Chat - Round 9

jimgoose · 01-12-2015 12:34AM

CIP4 wrote: »

I've never bought any car because someone said I should or said they were good. Infairness I've yet to hear anyone that knows nothing about cars say renaults are great...

My brother-in-law drives a Fluence. He's a knob.

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 12:38AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you were to sell the Megane, and say buy an 04 320d, and save the difference - how would your parents react?

They wouldnt care either way. Obviously I'm in fy college at the moment so would be terrible time to change cars as between projects and exams and all that I wouldn't want to be without a car or try searching for one. But from June onwards I'm finished college and would then have more time to look for a car. I don't like e46 BMWs enough to buy one I like the e90 but again I'm not sure if I'd buy one.

I'll be lucky to be in a position in June where I could buy anything I want really as I will have no other major outgoings other than my car and be working full time. But I still don't know what to do. One voice says go mad nows your chance while your young the other says to be somewhat sensible. I honestly don't know what to buy either way.

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 12:47AM

jimgoose wrote: »

My brother-in-law drives a Fluence. He's a knob.

I wouldn't be a Fluence fan myself I think the Megane hatchback has a nicer shape. Taxi drivers seem to love Fluences. Infairness Renaults have come on some amount in recent years they are genuinely as reliable as anything on the road now and that's some going to what they were like in the early 2000's. I've always had a soft spot for renaults probably because my dad had so many of them but I learned to drive in a mk2 phase 2 Megane and loved it probably because it was my first car to drive on the roads and first taste of freedom.

jimgoose · 01-12-2015 12:52AM

CIP4 wrote: »

I wouldn't be a Fluence fan myself I think the Megane hatchback has a nicer shape. Taxi drivers seem to love Fluences. Infairness Renaults have come on some amount in recent years they are genuinely as reliable as anything on the road now and that's some going to what they were like in the early 2000's. I've always had a soft spot for renaults probably because my dad had so many of them but I learned to drive in a mk2 phase 2 Megane and loved it probably because it was my first car to drive on the roads and first taste of freedom.

I feel the same about the Mk. I Granada. And I can forgive just about any Renault shape - even the 4TL - except the Fat-Arsed Megane model.

colm_mcm · 01-12-2015 12:53AM

CIP4 wrote: »

They wouldnt care either way. Obviously I'm in fy college at the moment so would be terrible time to change cars as between projects and exams and all that I wouldn't want to be without a car or try searching for one. But from June onwards I'm finished college and would then have more time to look for a car. I don't like e46 BMWs enough to buy one I like the e90 but again I'm not sure if I'd buy one.

I'll be lucky to be in a position in June where I could buy anything I want really as I will have no other major outgoings other than my car and be working full time. But I still don't know what to do. One voice says go mad nows your chance while your young the other says to be somewhat sensible. I honestly don't know what to buy either way.

Would you travel with work or are you happy enough at home?

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 01:04AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Would you travel with work or are you happy enough at home?

I wouldn't be one for travel I like the odd sun holiday but would see no point in going travelling or traveling with work. So during initial interviews I kind of played it saying I'd go to America no bother for 6 months or whatever which I would have but I was then offered a better position permanently based in the one site so I took that was delighted. It's ultimately all graduate programmes but the difference is by the end of it I'll have a permanent job and be up a few steps all going well whereas the others will have travelled to a lot of different sites and done different things but specialised in nothing if you get me. It kind of sounds bad when I say it like that but ultimately I got the better job it's downside is no travel which would be a downside to some not to me.

01-12-2015 02:02AM

CIP4 wrote: »

.....but the difference is by the end of it I'll have a permanen others will have travelled to a lot of different sites and done different things but specialised in nothing if you get me. It kind of sounds bad when I say it like that but ultimately I got the better job it's downside is no travel which would be a downside to some not to me.

Theres a big world out there. You might well see the lads who specialised in nothing getting serious cash by contracting. Not many people specialise straight out of college, also nowadays folk with specialist experience and nothing else can be sort of pigeon holed.

UnknownSpecies · 01-12-2015 02:24AM

Augeo wrote: »

Theres a big world out there. You might well see the lads who specialised in nothing getting serious cash by contracting. Not many people specialise straight out of college, also nowadays folk with specialist experience and nothing else can be sort of pigeon holed.

In the company I work with, the graduates that travel are given much more responsibility and come back with more knowledge and experience than if they had stayed here. Your work is what you make of it really. Nothing wrong with staying in Ireland of course, but there's no basis for saying you'll end up better because of it.

NewApproach · 01-12-2015 11:12AM

Spacers - are they safe?

Where should I buy them and what do I need to know?

power pants · 01-12-2015 11:27AM

I just assumed rightly or wrongly that CIP4 was forced to buy the megane and also forced to keep it for at least a couple of years. My assumptions could be wrong too though

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 11:30AM

Augeo wrote: »

Theres a big world out there. You might well see the lads who specialised in nothing getting serious cash by contracting. Not many people specialise straight out of college, also nowadays folk with specialist experience and nothing else can be sort of pigeon holed.

More specialised than the people that travel and do a lot of random different jobs but my role is still broad enough it certainly won't be the same thing everyday and will be a mix of projects and operations so still very broad.

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

In the company I work with, the graduates that travel are given much more responsibility and come back with more knowledge and experience than if they had stayed here. Your work is what you make of it really. Nothing wrong with staying in Ireland of course, but there's no basis for saying you'll end up better because of it.

Well based on the specific company's past the very few they have taken on the Irish accelerated programme they end up as managers quicker maybe that's a coincidence I don't know. But I can't think of any exception to that. If they live upto half of what they have said it will be great if not I'll just move after two years won't be any issue in getting another job in the area I'm in. I certainly don't need to stay there forever but having looked at all the companies it was the one I preferred the most.

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 11:35AM

power pants wrote: »

I just assumed rightly or wrongly that CIP4 was forced to buy the megane and also forced to keep it for at least a couple of years. My assumptions could be wrong too though

No I always picked them myself. Even with the Megane I was strongly considering another golf 1.4 but they are gutless and I thought the Megane was the best option considering everything. I mean I have always funded my own cars from summer jobs I've had since I was 16 not that that's relevant but you are kind of insinuating they were bought for me they never were. Which tbh if they were I'd say it I don't really care.

UnknownSpecies · 01-12-2015 11:36AM

CIP4 wrote: »

More specialised than the people that travel and do a lot of random different jobs but my role is still broad enough it certainly won't be the same thing everyday and will be a mix of projects and operations so still very broad.

Well based on the specific company's past the very few they have taken on the Irish accelerated programme they end up as managers quicker maybe that's a coincidence I don't know. But I can't think of any exception to that. If they live upto half of what they have said it will be great if not I'll just move after two years won't be any issue in getting another job in the area I'm in. I certainly don't need to stay there forever but having looked at all the companies it was the one I preferred the most.

Absolutely, it would depend on the company. As someone who loves travel and sees the value it can have though, I felt I needed to counter.

CIP4 wrote: »

No I always picked them myself. Even with the Megane I was strongly considering another golf 1.4 but they are gutless and I thought the Megane was the best option considering everything. I mean I have always funded my own cars from summer jobs I've had since I was 16 not that that's relevant but you are kind of insinuating they were bought for me they never were. Which tbh if they were I'd say it I don't really care.

What would you buy if you sold the megane today?

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 11:40AM

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

Absolutely, it would depend on the company. As someone who loves travel and sees the value it can have though, I felt I needed to counter.

I get where you are coming from. It's not even that I don't like travel I've been to loads of places abroad but I wouldn't have the need to go for longterm periods but maybe I will when I'm older and I will go then but I appreciate it's probably easier to do when your young.

As for the Megane I am still unsure what to buy to replace it. If it's another diesel it will be 2.0tdi anyway as I'd like something with some kind of power this time even though I know a 2.0tdi diesel isn't quick but still better than what I have.

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 11:41AM

I think you need to ask yourself CIP, what is the Megane giving you? As a car enthusiast, why do you love it? If you havn't an answer, you're ****ed.

That's what happened to me with the Corolla, thought i'd go all sensible and then after a few months Mrs. Fanboi says, "you know how you love cars, what do you love about that Corolla"... weeks later I had the Celica, cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, double the power and half the doors :pac:

I have a few quid saved up and think 2016 will be the year I really up my game car wise. Would love a 350z, or a GT86, i'd have to part finance a GT86 but what better a time than now? Still young, no kids, plenty of work etc.

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 11:50AM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I think you need to ask yourself CIP, what is the Megane giving you? As a car enthusiast, why do you love it? If you havn't an answer, you're ****ed.

That's what happened to me with the Corolla, thought i'd go all sensible and then after a few months Mrs. Fanboi says, "you know how you love cars, what do you love about that Corolla"... weeks later I had the Celica, cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, double the power and half the doors :pac:

I have a few quid saved up and think 2016 will be the year I really up my game car wise. Would love a 350z, or a GT86, i'd have to part finance a GT86 but what better a time than now? Still young, no kids, plenty of work etc.

oh you've hit the nail on the head. The Megane is a good car but I have no real attachment to it. But at the same time I want to replace it with something that I get excited to get into which Im still not sure what will give me that excitement.

Your right on the no kids and being young if you have a definite car in mind which you do you should try and go for it. When Ive picked something I will go for it. Life is too short to drive something that doesn't excite you when you are in a position to get something that does Ive only realised that recently.

power pants · 01-12-2015 11:53AM

CIP4 wrote: »

No I always picked them myself. Even with the Megane I was strongly considering another golf 1.4 but they are gutless and I thought the Megane was the best option considering everything. I mean I have always funded my own cars from summer jobs I've had since I was 16 not that that's relevant but you are kind of insinuating they were bought for me they never were. Which tbh if they were I'd say it I don't really care.

No, definitely was not insinuating that the cars were bought for you, certainly wasnt what I was thinking. I thought, perhaps your parents had a strong influence on your purchase. Reason I think/thought this is as you mention all the time about wanting to change etc

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 11:59AM

Like if you had half the value of the Megane in your hand in cash and had to pick a car from donedeal right now, what would you choose?

Baring in mind paying huge money for tax while very annoying isn't as crazy as it seems and petrols often aren't as uneconomical as people make out.

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 12:03PM

power pants wrote: »

No, definitely was not insinuating that the cars were bought for you, certainly wasnt what I was thinking. I thought, perhaps your parents had a strong influence on your purchase. Reason I think/thought this is as you mention all the time about wanting to change etc

No they have always been bought by me as Ive been lucky enough to always have had good summer jobs through the years and had a decent amount of money built up by the time I bought my first. The reason Ive been saying about waiting is three real reasons.

1. The Megane is a tried and tested car which I can trust and thats what I need at the moment as Im up and down to cork a lot for college and don't need any hardship.

2. Im busy out in college 9am to 9 pm most days and would genuinely not have time to advertise the car sell it and then go looking for something else. Even my weekends are busy with assignments.

3. I don't have a replacement in mind only a few Id kind of like so no point changing it till I have a definite in mind.

If I wait till next summer or later Ill be working and have more time in the evenings and weekends to look. They are my reasons honestly if I sold my car in the morning it would put pressure on myself to get something else quickly and would be a bad situation tbh.

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 12:15PM

Laaaaaaad.

Yesterday I done Wicklow to Cork in the Celica and now Monday to Friday i'll commute Cork to Waterford for work, then Friday i'l do Cork back to Wicklow to work up there for the weekend :pac: long days and long commutes if anything mean you should have a car that cheers you up!

IMO you should advertise the Megane, sell up, half the money straight into a saving account and the second half sunk straight into a MK5 GTi. Mad power, epic Golf love, epic spec and you'd be grinning from ear to ear 24 hours a day.

That's what I found with the Celica, yeah the tax is steep, it's been fairly unreliable and cost a stone cold fortune but I just love it so much, i'm constantly happy and that makes everything else not really matter at all. In fact, that's kind of the fun of it.

I could die in the morning and i'd much rather die grinning from ear to ear having owned the Celica and a few of the other nice yokes i've had than die miserable having based my hobby choices around what other people though were "sensible vehicles" etc.

I was going to say to think long and hard in this man, but really I think you need to stop thinking, just drop your pants and do it, you'l thank yourself.

YbFocus · 01-12-2015 12:25PM

TFB that was a great post, my thoughts exactly.
Stop trying to wait to be ready, do it now CIP or time will get away!

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 12:25PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/10825145

Plenty of test, good serive history and a bit of recent work done. 200 odd turbo bhp, DSG, automatic and electronic everything, Golf... insurance would be handy enough too i'd say. Probably see 40mpg on a run and they are reasonably cheap to service and have a decent reliability rating. 5 grand only

Donnelly117 · 01-12-2015 12:39PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/10825145

Plenty of test, good serive history and a bit of recent work done. 200 odd turbo bhp, DSG, automatic and electronic everything, Golf... insurance would be handy enough too i'd say. Probably see 40mpg on a run and they are reasonably cheap to service and have a decent reliability rating. 5 grand only

Probably wont see 40 mpg

But apart from that you're on the money! Do it!!

Big Nasty · 01-12-2015 12:40PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I was going to say to think long and hard in this man, but really I think you need to stop thinking, just drop your pants and do it, you'l thank yourself.

This!

Cantona's Collars · 01-12-2015 01:31PM

Spotted a fella with a hoody saying "If the cross is empty,give her plenty".So these clowns who burn rubber on every cross roads in the country are advertising the fact.

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 01:38PM

Ah I think it's just a humerous representation of the fact that he's into cars, you'l probably see him go to the car park and get into a FWD Kia Rio owned by his nan.

01-12-2015 01:39PM

I have to say I agree with the other lads, CIP. If you're happy enough with the car you have, not really too fussed on changing it, it gives you very little hassle and you're busy enough at the moment that you're not really driving it, you should definitely swap it out for a big tax petrol immediately and without thinking of it. YOLO and all that.

:pac:

Will ye guys give him a break.

He's clearly happy enough with the Megane and, although I could well be reading it wrong, he seems to have no real interest in changing it except for changing it 'for the sake of it' when he's better suited financially or finds something specific that he wants?

Personally, my opinion is that if you're busy working and use the car for work, then you're better off keeping whatever you have, rather than rushing into something that could break your heart. Better the devil you know, and all that. (but that's just me. I'm driving a Citroen C5, so I'm not exactly setting the world on fire, myself).

power pants · 01-12-2015 01:42PM

tbf its himself since day of ownership that posts about looking at new cars next few months, itchy feet, looking at next car then in space of a post or 2. have to keep the car for a year, 2 years etc

just comes across as someone who is unsure themselves. thats all

Nothing to do with the actual car itself, thats actually irrelevant

CIP4 · 01-12-2015 01:42PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/10825145

Plenty of test, good serive history and a bit of recent work done. 200 odd turbo bhp, DSG, automatic and electronic everything, Golf... insurance would be handy enough too i'd say. Probably see 40mpg on a run and they are reasonably cheap to service and have a decent reliability rating. 5 grand only

You know my week spot

I see what your saying but as I said below I think insurance would be the issue. The GTI would probably be the best car. Although would it be a bit too mad to put up with on a daily basis I mean you know sometimes you just want a quite drive with no drama too would a 1.4tsi be a better middle ground I don't know. I didn't realise they had gone that cheap. If I was going for one it would have to be 5 door and ideally manual. Although DSG wouldn't be a deal breaker 5dr would be.

YbFocus wrote: »

TFB that was a great post, my thoughts exactly.
Stop trying to wait to be ready, do it now CIP or time will get away!

I think Insurance would be the biggest issue I couldn't even get quoted on a 1.4tsi 170bhp golf back when buying the Megane. So Id imagine liberty would have a heart attack over changing to a GTI surly they are on the sports car list or whatever.

Donnelly117 wrote: »

Probably wont see 40 mpg But apart from that you're on the money! Do it!!

Your probably right here I wonder is there much difference between the auto and manual probably not.

Toyotafanboi · 01-12-2015 02:06PM

I ahd a loan of a MK5 GTi manual for a while a couple of years back and if you are just pottering around, it's as tame and nicely refined as you like, just with the additional capability of being able to show you a bloody good time if you want one. It's not even really "raw" when you're thrashing it, it's still comfortable and quiet aside from a bit of turbo symphony which is appropriate tbh, you're just have an awareness that you're suddenly going really quite quick even though the car made pretty much no drama about it.

I'd say insuring a diesel would be harder these days?

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