Body Shaming

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:20AM

Canadel wrote: »

Ah heyor, leave it out.

The overreaction on this thread is hilarious. And over what? A few leaflets about weight! Get a grip. Most people probably know if they are overweight or obese anyway; a leaflet telling them they are isn't going to be that big of a surprise, however hurtful. If this is the kind of thing that has people in uproar and questioning society, then things aren't too bad at all. I mean, I have horrible teeth, which is due to my own lack of attention towards them over the years, and I'm very subconscious over it. If someone handed me a leaflet telling me I'm a drain on society and that I have a horrible, rotten set of teeth and an ugly smile, I'd probably feel a bit sad but I'd also have to reflect honestly on the situation and admit that they have a point. And I'd most likely go home and brush like a mad bastard. Or not. Who cares at the end of the day. Live your life. Let them live theirs. It's a big bad world. Don't take everything said to you to heart.

Hang on so one would not do a mortal kombat finisher on the person saying things ? I thought that was the regular sane persons reaction ?

Azalea · 01-12-2015 12:20AM

Canadel wrote: »

The overreaction on this thread is hilarious. And over what? A few leaflets about weight!

More than just "leaflets about weight" in fairness. They are being used to humiliate. I agree there is some what of an overreaction (job well done by the card distributors).

tomwaterford · 01-12-2015 12:21AM

Azalea wrote: »

More than just "leaflets about weight" in fairness. They are being used to humiliate. I agree there is some what of an overreaction (job well done by the card distributors).

Who exactly is behind/dreamt up these cards

Azalea · 01-12-2015 12:22AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Who exactly is behind/dreamt up these cards

Don't look at me boss!

tomwaterford · 01-12-2015 12:25AM

Azalea wrote: »

Don't look at me boss!

Sorry....wasn't aimed at you. (Honestly!)

Seems pretty aimed at being hurtful the way they hand them out to people (alone??) just before they get off the train so as to avoid the consequences??

end of the road · 01-12-2015 12:26AM

mikeym wrote: »

We need to get the PC Brigade.

they don't exist.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I have looked into Fast food joints during the day, Watching extremely obese people feeding extremely obese children and toddlers. You have no Issue with that ?

i think most people would have an issue with it. they aren't going around acting the dick to people though

darkpagandeath wrote: »

You mean like SJW's ? You know who tell everyone else how to think and if one is not on board with the current topic get called Racist or bigot or some other term to shut down debate.

such don't exist. nobody shuts down debate, they challenge peoples views.

Saipanne wrote: »

To be fat, is to be unhealthy. It should not be encouraged.

are people for the most part encouraging it? i know you supposibly have these fat exceptance groups but really who actually listens to them or take them seriously?

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:29AM

end of the road wrote: »

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are people for the most part encouraging it? i know you supposibly have these fat exceptance groups but really who actually listens to them or take them seriously?

People took this thread seriously Just like that made up one about the gay couple being asked to leave for PDA.

Fr_Dougal · 01-12-2015 12:29AM

Azalea wrote: »

But smokers do affect others when they smoke (I have the odd cigarette myself by the way). Being overweight is unhealthy too of course but I see a difference between criticising a habit and just having a go at someone because of how they look. Saying their lifestyle is unhealthy is fair enough but insults - too far.

Ok, I'd like to point out that I think this campaign is wrong on many levels.

But playing devils advocate; overweight people can have just as much a negative impact on people. They can take up a lot of healthcare resources, they can pass on bad habits to their children regarding diet etc. and make it uncomfortable for other passengers on public transport by their overspill into the seats beside them.

Hammer89 · 01-12-2015 12:30AM

Saipanne wrote: »

I'm not instructing anyone. Just stating the obvious, that being all Lord Pudgington in life is not healthy and will most likely lead to an early grave.

See, here's where you clowns let yourself down big style. You intimate that your tough-love stance is borne out of good intentions for the demographic in question - obese people in this scenario - but then you go and say things like that and undermine yourself. The mask always slips and the bully is always revealed eventually.

Overeating isn't healthy, but there's a 101 unhealthy vices which people do and society doesn't give much of a f*ck, except for when it comes to obesity, in which case every prick with a keyboard morphs into Jeremy Kyle.

01-12-2015 12:31AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Sorry....wasn't aimed at you. (Honestly!)

Seems pretty aimed at being hurtful the way they hand them out to people (alone??) just before they get off the train so as to avoid the consequences??

They're just cowardly bullies, they won't be handing cards to someone in a group or when they enter a place, only lone women and only where they have a handy escape.

It has nothing at all to do with health, it's just sad little people trying to feel better about being so inadequate that they get their kicks out of hurting random strangers. I suppose it makes them feel momentarily powerful, being able to cause someone else pain.

Well adjusted people with decent lives do not make other people feel bad to make themselves feel important.

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:32AM

Hammer89 wrote: »

See, here's where you clowns let yourself down big style. You intimate that your tough-love stance is borne out of good intentions for the demographic in question - obese people in this scenario - but then you go and say things like that and undermine yourself. The mask always slips and the bully is always revealed eventually.

Overeating isn't healthy, but there's a 101 unhealthy vices which people do and society doesn't give much of a f*ck, except for when it comes to obesity, in which case every prick with a keyboard morphs into Jeremy Kyle.

You mean like the old threats of violence ?

Canadel · 01-12-2015 12:34AM

Azalea wrote: »

More than just "leaflets about weight" in fairness. They are being used to humiliate.

They are more or less leaflets about weight. You can decide whether you allow them to be used in that way.

I loved this comment for example:

If someone hands me an Overweight Haters Ltd card on the tube I'm gonna eat it.

Smidge · 01-12-2015 12:35AM

Jesus, what the hell is wrong with people?
Sure...being overweight isnt the best for you. Everyone and their dog knows that and that includes overweight people.
But what the hell happened to minding your fukcing manners????

Don't fool yourself with "Well they are handing out these cards as a health thing".
They ain't.
It's a glory trip for small minded, nosey, ignorant buggers who want to feel superior to someone..ANYONE...for a few minutes of their day.

There are times I really don't know what goes through people like these tiny minds!

Mind your own damn business people and get some goddamn manners.

bodice ripper · 01-12-2015 12:36AM

Already printing my "your kids are hideous trolls" cards. Gonna be amazing.

Jon Stark · 01-12-2015 12:37AM

You'd really have to wonder about a person who is essentially volunteering to humiliate people.

If you really have a passion for the weight of people there are more fruitful ways to invest your time. Learn about nutrition and fitness... do a course....teach a class.

You know, something that will make a difference, instead of doing something so spiteful as to make people endure public humiliation.

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:37AM

Smidge wrote: »

Jesus, what the hell is wrong with people?
Sure...being overweight isnt the best for you. Everyone and their dog knows that and that includes overweight people.
But what the hell happened to minding your fukcing manners????

Don't fool yourself with "Well they are handing out these cards as a health thing".
They ain't.
It's a glory trip for small minded, nosey, ignorant buggers who want to feel superior to someone..ANYONE...for a few minutes of their day.

There are times I really don't know what goes through people like these tiny minds!

Mind your own damn business people and get some goddamn manners.

We have Zero idea if it actually happened and was not made up for the old perm outraged.

Hammer89 · 01-12-2015 12:38AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

You mean like the old threats of violence ?

I purposely avoided your posts because you're speaking like the f*cking Queen in half of them. One does not wish to dialog with you, your majesty. And there's only one 'O' in the word 'losing'. Feel embarrassed? Good. But imagine somebody embarrassed you on a much bigger scale, in real life, on public transport, over a much more sensitive issue. It's not okay mate.

Canadel · 01-12-2015 12:39AM

Candie wrote: »

Well adjusted people with decent lives do not make other people feel bad to make themselves feel important.

How do you explain the pro life campaign in Ireland..

tomwaterford · 01-12-2015 12:41AM

Canadel wrote: »

How do you explain the pro life campaign in Ireland..

In fairness a fair chunk of them while well meaning aren't well adjusted and bordering on a catholic version of Isis (gratuitous violence aside)

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 12:42AM

Hammer89 wrote: »

I purposely avoided your posts because you're speaking like the f*cking Queen in half of them. One does not wish to dialog with you, your majesty. And there's only one 'O' in the word 'losing'. Feel embarrassed? Good. But imagine somebody embarrassed you on a much bigger scale, in real life, on public transport, over a much more sensitive issue. It's not okay mate.

Opps there goes the ball..... One is correct English.

Wanderer78 · 01-12-2015 12:54AM

there really are some a holes on this planet!

Letree · 01-12-2015 01:01AM

Cheryl Fernandez Versini is getting more grief over her lack of weight than any fat person i can think of on TV.

diomed · 01-12-2015 01:01AM

If I was fat and handed one of those cards I would hand it back (in my tightly clenched fist).

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 01:04AM

diomed wrote: »

If I was fat and handed one of those cards I would hand it back (in my tightly clenched fist).

Another disregard for assault charges I see. Life is getting very Mortal Kombat these days.

RDM_83 again · 01-12-2015 01:05AM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Who exactly is behind/dreamt up these cards

Its either good internet trolling or nasty but effective real life trolling. I'd lean towards the former.

MPFGLB · 01-12-2015 01:06AM

These cards are a worrying trend no matter the issue of the recipient...They smack of what has become a phenomenon in recent years .People on social media and in everyday situations thinking they have the right to insult and demean others .Some people (and there are a few on here) think they have been given some green light to pass judgement on others. They jump on board the media campaign to shame fat people. There are so many programs on TV where it seems ok to shame people who are over weight

1. Most people who are over weight know it already and need support , not shaming to tackle the problem. There is evidence to show that shaming people makes the situation worse , not better

2. The money spent on fat people in the NHS. Well more is spent on alcohol in society as a whole including health, policing, criminal justice . In fact just 2 drinks a night has a long term effect on your health to match obesity. Then there are smokers, sport people, car/bike drivers, etc. The NHS is there to support all people. These spurious figures quoted in the media tell only one side of the story and are constantly quoted as a reason to demean those who are obese. Most money spent in the NHS is on people over the age of 75 who are being kept alive with statins, beta blockers,stents, other drugs and now have a long slow decline in health. You could say alot of fat people check out before then and save millions
( I have worked in the NHS for years)

3. Some people are so full of hate and they use so called concern for their society as a means to spew that hate over others.

4. Fat is a feminist issue as women are judged more for it and are labelled and shamed for it by society

Deep Six · 01-12-2015 01:08AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Another disregard for assault charges I see. Life is getting very Mortal Kombat these days.

Maybe some people have more dignity than you do and refuse to be treated like a doormat or let provocation slide without a response? If you're happy laying down and taking abuse then that's your prerogative.

Wanderer78 · 01-12-2015 01:08AM

diomed wrote: »

If I was fat and handed one of those cards I would hand it back (in my tightly clenched fist).

id be shoving it up the presenters h!

darkpagandeath · 01-12-2015 01:08AM

MPFGLB wrote: »

These cards are a worrying trend no matter the issue of the recipient...They smack of what has become a phenomenon in recent years .People on social media and in everyday situations thinking they have the right to insult and demean others .Some people (and there are a few on here) think they have been given some green light to pass judgement on others. They jump on board the media campaign to shame fat people. There are so many programs on TV where it seems ok to shame people who are over weight

1. Most people who are over weight know it already and need support , not shaming to tackle the problem. There is evidence to show that shaming people makes the situation worse , not better

2. The money spent on fat people in the NHS. Well more is spent on alcohol in society as a whole including health, policing, criminal justice . In fact just 2 drinks a night has a long term effect on your health to match obesity. Then there are smokers, sport people, car/bike drivers, etc. The NHS is there to support all people. These spurious figures quoted in the media tell only one side of the story and are constantly quoted as a reason to demean those who are obese. Most money spent in the NHS is on people over the age of 75 who are being kept alive with statins, beta blockers,stents, other drugs and now have a long slow decline in health. You could say alot of fat people check out before then and save millions
( I have worked in the NHS for years)

3. Some people are so full of hate and they use so called concern for their society as a means to spew that hate over others.

4. Fat is a feminist issue as women are judged more for it and are labelled and shamed for it by society

I'm sure one has a peer reviewed study on that one. it's a hell of a lot easier to call a man fat and get away with zero consequences.

petrolcan · 01-12-2015 01:09AM

Deep Six wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/overweight-haters-ltd-cards-2-2475425-Nov2015/

So a group in London is handing out these disgusting cards on the tube to people they see as overweight.

My issue with this is that it is a sample of one.

Body Shaming

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