Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

ThisRegard · 23-11-2015 12:03pm

I can't even look at tripe in a butchers, never mind taste it. The above description, to me, is disgusting.

AstraMonti · 23-11-2015 12:03pm

We do that in Greece as well, it's a known food for hangovers and after a long night. There used to be shops open selling a tripe soup until 8-9am and they would reopen the other day around 11pm. It's absolutely disgusting the way it's cooked though, no idea about the spanish way.

petethedrummer · 23-11-2015 12:03pm

Alek wrote: »

I think what you are getting at butcher's is "washed tripe"

I was refering the unwashed one - you can get it from a butchers in a mediterranean / arabic shop, in example.

Ah riiight, that sounds more interesting!

eeeee · 23-11-2015 1:20pm

Re Porridge, water has no place in porridge. Milk only and lots of it. I like ti kind of dry, maybe a bit of honey but it's oaty milkiness is what makes it brillinat! About 1/3 to an half porridge porridge oats, 2/3 or a half milk, microwave 4 mins, sticky yumminess!

Darkglasses wrote: »

No dairy. Don't you want to stay under 60kg?

Easy done

Nothing would make me give up dairy. I am the dairy queen. I go through a full pound of real butter by myself a week

I have a theory that the crap they put into/process they put food through to make it low fat are shockingly bad for you. Full fat ftw

Alek · 23-11-2015 1:35pm

I go through a full pound of real butter by myself a week

I thought its only me

ford2600 · 23-11-2015 1:37pm

gadetra wrote: »

Re Porridge, water has no place in porridge. Milk only and lots of it. I like ti kind of dry, maybe a bit of honey but it's oaty milkiness is what makes it brillinat! About 1/3 to an half porridge porridge oats, 2/3 or a half milk, microwave 4 mins, sticky yumminess!

Easy done Nothing would make me give up dairy. I am the dairy queen. I go through a full pound of real butter by myself a week
I have a theory that the crap they put into/process they put food through to make it low fat are shockingly bad for you. Full fat ftw

It's not so much full/low fat but the changing of the fat type in the manufacture of the pretend butters.

1lb a week that your K2 sorted ☺

Alek · 23-11-2015 1:42pm

What's K2?

traprunner · 23-11-2015 1:46pm

Alek wrote: »

What's K2?

A mountain.

Alek · 23-11-2015 1:48pm

Or a camera

ford2600 · 23-11-2015 1:55pm

Alek wrote: »

What's K2?

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ie/2008/06/vitamin-k2-menatetrenone-mk-4.html?m=1

Given your nationally I presume you have some fermented foods in your diet anyway, so your probably well covered before the 1lb of butter!

Alek · 23-11-2015 2:19pm

Sourdough bread and yoghurt daily, sauerkraut and soured beets / gherkins sometimes, homebrew... well... also daily

On top of this loads of butter, mostly in low-sugar muffins

Lets face it, I love fermentation products.

By the way - is the K2 vitamin present in fermented and then baked / cooked products?

RobFowl · 23-11-2015 2:37pm

Will I go for a 1.5k spin this afternoon or leave it for a decent spin tomorrow????

Year to date 2015

Distance 11,998.5 km
Time 447h 54m
Elev Gain 100,462 m

bp_me · 23-11-2015 3:19pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Will I go for a 1.5k spin this afternoon or leave it for a decent spin tomorrow????

Year to date 2015

Distance 11,998.5 km
Time 447h 54m
Elev Gain 100,462 m

Do both?

CramCycle · 23-11-2015 4:39pm

Alek wrote: »

I thought its only me

You are not alone

Qualitymark · 23-11-2015 5:21pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

I have the kids adding honey (acacia honey, made by the gods of the bee world)to all their cereal now, weetabix(yum), corn flakes, even cheerios and the likes.

No honey for kids under a year or so, though, it can carry botulism, I'm told.

petethedrummer wrote: »

We're talking about the same stuff here, are we? White wobbly stuff with the square ridges???

Kind of like a bath sponge cooked in socks.

AstraMonti wrote: »

it's a known food for hangovers and after a long night

That's because the hangover backs away down your throat and flees, screaming.

roverrules · 23-11-2015 6:54pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Nice surprise this am, done twice in two days for speeding ( genuinely thought it was an 80 zone but speed cameras said 60). Paid up and got 6 points in total (first in 25 years of driving.
Anyway two Garda letters in post, thought Fook what have I done ...
Inside a letter saying 60 had no basis in law and cheques for 160 in total and removal of points.
Happy days.
Now what can I get for 160

Rainy day won't appreciate that.

ThisRegard · 23-11-2015 7:23pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

No honey for kids under a year or so, though, it can carry botulism, I'm told.

Nope, it can be a pain watching out for all those things. Our youngest was diagnosed as lactose intolerant, what an absolute pain in the ass that is to manage. Thankfully he's developing a tolerance as he's getting older so we drip feed increasing amounts of food containing lactose to him, so far so good.

Alek · 23-11-2015 7:54pm

No honey for kids under a year or so, though, it can carry botulism, I'm told.

Honey contains spores of Clostridium Botulinum, which are harmless to older children and adults as they die in the stomach acids. Very young kids don't have adequate pH in their little tummies and can develop CB infection, very often fatal.

Unknown Soldier · 23-11-2015 9:40pm

RobFowl wrote: »

Thats the spirit

OK.

Shure I'll be dead soon.

Possibly a lot quicker when my missus see this...

#le_sigh

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 8:56am

ThisRegard wrote: »

Our youngest was diagnosed as lactose intolerant, what an absolute pain in the ass that is to manage. Thankfully he's developing a tolerance as he's getting older so we drip feed increasing amounts of food containing lactose to him, so far so good.

Can he have goat's milk? Used to be considered a great lung-strengthener and general builder-upper. I don't generally like goat's milk from the shops, but had some fresh recently and it was delish.

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 8:59am

Reading about Gallipoli at the moment. Anyone cycled from Suvla to Sedd el Bahr? About 30km.

Rogue-Trooper · 24-11-2015 9:06am

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I made friends with the bonnet of a taxi this morning. Fun times. May have screwed up my wrist...

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Just in for 2 xrays. One on my wrist, the other on my ribs. The video of the crash is fun!

Sorry to hear about your mishap. What did the xrays show up? Are you allowed back on the bike (either by medical practitioners or significant others)?

More importantly, is the bike ok?!!

I presume you will be sharing the aforementioned video with us shortly...........

ThisRegard · 24-11-2015 9:32am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Can he have goat's milk? Used to be considered a great lung-strengthener and general builder-upper. I don't generally like goat's milk from the shops, but had some fresh recently and it was delish.

He had some, and goats milk yoghurt, and reacted to it, which was another indicator that it was a lactose intolerance rather than a cows milk allergy before we got confirmation from some professor. It didn't taste great either.

Alpro has a kid specific soya alternative which he used for a long time, then all of a sudden lactose free cows milk became easily available, even Supervalu have their own branded stuff, and it tastes pretty much like ordinary milk.

The demand is obviously there for it too, by Sunday our local Supervalu has sold out of both their own and Avonmore's lactose free milk. When he was on the soya, we often had to ask the manager to get extra orders in, it flew off the shelf. Maybe we just live in a lactose intolerant black spot.

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 9:59am

Huge chunks of the world are lactose intolerant - possibly more people than aren't. Irish people, back in the day, used to practically live on oatmeal and milk, but the milk was mostly soured into various yogurts and cheeses - "They feede most on Whitemeates, and esteem for a great daintie sower curds, vulgarly called by them Bonnaclabbe," says that old sowerpuss Fynes Moryson (whitemeats meaning milk products; Moryson is a typical helicoptyre journalyste of his time, and isn't greatly accurate - in fact, he's about as accurate about the Irish as Isis propagandists are about the west today, equally motivated by religious mania and hatred - but he gives an idea of the diet). I suppose 'Bonaclabber' is a combination of bánbiadh - whitemeats, or white foods, used for milk products, and clabair, used for milk thickened on a shallow dish, building up lots of goodygood microherd microbes for the tum.

Alek · 24-11-2015 10:02am

Huge chunks of the world are lactose intolerant - possibly more people than aren't.

Do you have a link to a research about this? There has been lots of misinformation in this regard on the internet lately.

[edit]

Ok, found some info myself:

A mutation which allowed adults to keep producing lactase emerged around 7000 years ago, and now 35 per cent of people can digest milk as adults – although there are marked geographical variations (see map below). In China and South-East Asia, more than 90 per cent of people are thought to be lactose intolerant, compared with between 2 and 20 per cent of those of northern European descent.

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but:

people who genuinely can’t absorb lactose can drink moderate amounts of milk – up to around 250 millilitres – in a sitting without symptoms, and they may be able to drink twice this amount if it is spread throughout the day . They can also usually consume yoghurt and hard cheese without problems, as most of the lactose is broken down by bacteria during their production. But they should avoid goat’s, buffalo’s, sheep’s or yak’s milk, all of which contain similar levels of lactose to cow’s milk.

(https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27938-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lactose-intolerance/)

tomasrojo · 24-11-2015 10:22am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Huge chunks of the world are lactose intolerant - possibly more people than aren't. Irish people, back in the day, used to practically live on oatmeal and milk, but the milk was mostly soured into various yogurts and cheeses - "They feede most on Whitemeates, and esteem for a great daintie sower curds, vulgarly called by them Bonnaclabbe," says that old sowerpuss Fynes Moryson (whitemeats meaning milk products; Moryson is a typical helicoptyre journalyste of his time, and isn't greatly accurate - in fact, he's about as accurate about the Irish as Isis propagandists are about the west today, equally motivated by religious mania and hatred - but he gives an idea of the diet). I suppose 'Bonaclabber' is a combination of bánbiadh - whitemeats, or white foods, used for milk products, and clabair, used for milk thickened on a shallow dish, building up lots of goodygood microherd microbes for the tum.

The Story of English by Robert McCrum et al. mentioned the existence of Bonnyclobber in Newfoundland (or Nova Scotia; can't remember) and said the Bonny was from "bainne". Can't remember what he said "Clobber" was from. He could be wrong too. There are some inaccuracies in the book.

Lactose tolerance/lactase persistence is more common than not in people of European descent (about 80%, I think).

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 10:39am

tomasrojo wrote: »

The Story of English by Robert McCrum et al. mentioned the existence of Bonnyclobber in Newfoundland (or Nova Scotia; can't remember) and said the Bonny was from "bainne". Can't remember what he said "Clobber" was from. He could be wrong too. There are some inaccuracies in the book.

Lactose tolerance/lactase persistence is more common than not in people of European descent (about 80%, I think).

I'd be inclined personally to think that bán and bainne might be related, but MacBain relates it to Old Irish banna, a drop, Old Slavic banja, a bath, etc, while he relates bán to various words for shining and light. Dunno if he's right, but sure he's the expert, not me!

tomasrojo · 24-11-2015 10:50am

Qualitymark wrote: »

I'd be inclined personally to think that bán and bainne might be related, but MacBain relates it to Old Irish banna, a drop, Old Slavic banja, a bath, etc, while he relates bán to various words for shining and light. Dunno if he's right, but sure he's the expert, not me!

This is starting to resemble Myles na gCopaleen's parodies of Father Dineen's dictionary, where a word can mean

‘a dead man’s spittle,’ or ‘the loneliness felt at cock crow,’ or ‘a disease of the third eyelid or nictitating membrane in cattle or horses,’ or ‘the bottom of a football’, or ‘a fool who is not entirely incapable of being useful’

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 10:53am

Or as in Dineen, where gealach (known to most of us as the moon) means, if I remember right, the white circle in a half-boiled potato.

tomasrojo · 24-11-2015 10:56am

Qualitymark wrote: »

Or as in Dineen, where gealach (known to most of us as the moon) means, if I remember right, the white circle in a half-boiled potato.

How often we've all gazed at just such a tater and longed for a pithy summary of our culinary failure.

Chips Lovell · 24-11-2015 12:01pm

Coming soon, to a commuter route near you....

Man creates 90,000 lumen LED front light

tomasrojo · 24-11-2015 12:08pm

You'll still get a motorist winding down window to tell you that you can't be seen without a "yellow jacket".

traprunner · 24-11-2015 12:12pm

Need a back light version too and it must be wrapped in hi-vis.

seamus · 24-11-2015 12:21pm

No messing though, 90,000 lumens requiring 1kW and it only weighs 5kg. There's a market in military applications for that one.

Lumen · 24-11-2015 1:08pm

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Coming soon, to a commuter route near you....

Man creates 90,000 lumen LED front light

eeeee · 24-11-2015 1:47pm

There was a documentary on about genetic mutations and lactose intolerance was on it. Apparantly something like three quarters of the worlds population is lactose intolerant, with 90% of Chinese and Japanese people lactose intolerant. Our corner of Northeren Europe has the highest lactose tolerance rates in the world, and the gene we have that breaks it down is from I think one Dutch person, my memory isn't 100% on that. But yeah most of us in Ireland are lactose tolerant. I suppose it bodes well for those who are lactose intolerant in terms of hybrid vigour :pac:

ThisRegard · 24-11-2015 2:09pm

So lactose tolerance is the illness, everyone else is normal. Adds fuel to the argument of some people that we shouldn't consume milk from animals.

Alek · 24-11-2015 2:15pm

argument of some people that we they shouldn't consume milk from animals

FTFT :P

Lumen · 24-11-2015 2:28pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

So lactose tolerance is the illness, everyone else is normal. Adds fuel to the argument of some people that we shouldn't consume milk from animals.

Public health advice is generally uselessly non-specific.

In the future we will probably get personal health advice based on genetic predispositions/sensitivites to carcinogens, mind-altering substances etc, which would be really useful when (for instance) considering whether to take up crack smoking as a pastime.

eeeee · 24-11-2015 2:33pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

So lactose tolerance is the illness, everyone else is normal. Adds fuel to the argument of some people that we shouldn't consume milk from animals.

Depending on where in the world you're from, yes and no!

petethedrummer · 24-11-2015 2:51pm

Lumen wrote: »

which would be really useful when (for instance) considering whether to take up crack smoking as a pastime.

Apparently crack isn't any more dangerous than regular cocaine.

petethedrummer · 24-11-2015 4:17pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_infidelity

CramCycle · 24-11-2015 4:26pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

So lactose tolerance is the illness, everyone else is normal. Adds fuel to the argument of some people that we shouldn't consume milk from animals.

I prefer mutation, makes me feel like one of the X men.

petethedrummer wrote: »

Apparently crack isn't any more dangerous than regular cocaine.

Supposedly less dangerous than alcohol if that puts it in perspective.

CramCycle · 24-11-2015 4:27pm

I just find it surprising, we had milk cartons supplied to the classroom every morning, 50% if not far higher of every class drank a third of a pint of milk with no obvious issues.

Its only when I came to Dublin I discovered that milk was not a common drink for people with dinner.

I can understand it in other countries where milk was not such a substantial part of the diet

Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 4:28pm

Depends where you're buying it. Poitín isn't any more dangerous than whiskey - except that there's no one overseeing how it's made, and it could be made in a lead bath, with blue bag and bleach. Same with drugs; crack could be cut with anything, and you'd be, er, cracked to use it.

CramCycle · 24-11-2015 4:31pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

crack could be cut with anything, and you'd be, er, cracked to use it.

So could be cocaine, and based on reports of some bars in Ireland, it is equally difficult to say that what your getting in your glass is exactly what is on the label.

petethedrummer · 24-11-2015 4:48pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Its only when I came to Dublin I discovered that milk was not a common drink for people with dinner.

It's only when I came to dublin that I discovered that it's strange to call round to friend's house for a cup of tea and a biscuit, if you're not a pensioner.

tomasrojo · 24-11-2015 4:50pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

So lactose tolerance is the illness, everyone else is normal.

It was a mutation that seemed to confer a huge advantage in Europe, due a gene-culture co-evolution, with dairy farming rising in prominence at the same time and creating a strong evolutionary advantage for those who could drink it into adulthood. I guess it was a way of consuming all that grass that Europe is so good at producing.

New Scientist had an article about potential downsides of consuming milk as an adult. Interesting one was that milk is a growth promoter, and quite a complex mix of molecules, with effects other than those associated with nutrition. IIRC, the suspicion was that it can encourage tumour growth, should you have one. There were other downsides discussed, but I can't remember them.

Rogue-Trooper · 24-11-2015 5:16pm

What I feel like after a spin when I take off my bib shorts and still have my leg warmers on..........

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Qualitymark · 24-11-2015 6:43pm

An image to conjure with. Quite what you'd conjure up with it is another question.

Again with the Irish and their milk as sower as they could get it, I wonder does drinking it soured (they also liked to drink the whey as a refreshing lifter) change how the metabolism meets the milk.

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