Clare GAA discussion thread

Was at the under 21 game today, eire og were the better team and deserved the win. They had a 5 points to 1 lead at half time after playing with the very strong wind and had a lot of wides but they played much better against the wind than kilrush had. Much stronger team. Terrible conditions for an underage county final but that is what you would expect in the middle of November.
The corofin result is embarrassing. The clare intermediate champions over the past few years have always put up a good performance against kerry or cork opposition but this result does absolutely nothing for Clare football and the mindset that we have when playing against teams from kerry.

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

dose'nt look like today will be any better then yesterday for clare football , half time in clonmel and with the aid of a strong wind miltown find themselves 7 points down

Ya this could be a hammering yet. Clonmel are 10 times better and have a very strong wind now behind them

Boots234 wrote: »

Ya this could be a hammering yet. Clonmel are 10 times better and have a very strong wind now behind them

1-13 to 0-03 it finished, terrible result , clonmel are a good side and hopefully they can kick on and beat nemo in the final but from our point of view neither corofin or miltown deserve any praise for there efforts this weekend

miltown were the poorest county champions I've ever seen in Clare, that said it was good to see a different team winning

Keano wrote: »

4 points between them is really poor

It doesn't say a lot for the state of football in Clare

the state of clare football is fine , no diffrent to most division 2/3 teams in the country , what plagues football here is attitude , both miltown and corofin went into munster this weekend with the attitude that there job was done , they had won there respective county finals and fair enough

whats annoying is nether side fought , since ger loughnane took over the clare hurles in the mid 90s he brought with him a mantra of fighting to the end even if you are in a situation where you wont win dont allow your self to get embarrassed

this is the fundamental difference between clare hurler and clare footballer when representing the county , always feel that if the hurlers attitude was brought to the footballers table results like these would not be happening and we would be far more competitive at inter county level too

you have to realize there is not much of a diffrence from where clare hurling was 20/25 years ago to where clare football is today , we dont need a loughnane or another john maughan we just need a massive change in attitude and one to the same level of the hurlers

great win for wolfe tones yesterday against west cork side newcestown in mallow, 1-18 to 2-13 it finished however it has to be said that two late trevor horgan goals for the cork men put a bit of respectability on things , the tones are very strong at this level with several present and former inter county players all over the field and captained by aaron cunnngham without trying to sound biased or over confidant it would have to be suggested that a serious shot at an all ireland is now on the cards , tones were victim of nothing more then bad luck last year as 5 teams were relegated 4 of which were given a 2nd chance while the fifth tones got the short straw with only one chance at survival , with guys like aaron cuningham , arron shannaher , brian o'connell bobby mcphilips and dathi o'connell to name a few , they have proven too strong by most at intermediate level this year but a measure of strength of this years intermediate championship n clare was shown in particular by both smith o'briens and broadford who seriously put it up to the tones in the semi final and final respectively

coolmeen also deserve plenty of praise wining through to the munster junior football final yesterday with a one point win over waterford champions modeligo in cooraclare on a 0-07 to 1-03 scoreline , a much larger tally will be required if they are to put it up to kerry champions templenoe on the 6th of December , what ever the out come they have put a bit of respect on clare football after last weekends outings at senior and intermediate level

just to finish , speaking of putting a better picture in terms of clare football , gary brennan had a superb game in the irish jersey last against Australia in croke park , the guy is a top quality footballer and one of the best in the country and while the international rules series is not for everyone its great for the likes of gary to get his chance at the highest level,

Clareman wrote: »

I only caught the second half of the football last night but what jumped out at me was that Brennan was the "go-to" guy and the target man for everything, in rugby terms he did untold amound of unseen work

for the 4th quarter he was brilliant , i think his inclusion beats noel roche, oderan o'dwyer or martin daly as being picked for the series , i would feel clare football was in a much better position when them players were picked , plus when you think of the midfield position at the moment and all the good players in that position across the country you have to chose from he deserves serious credit for just making the cut

great club went through the mill over the last couple of years were screwed when relegated in the hurling last year , if they get there act together next year there is no reason they cant at least make a 1/4 final or semi final appearance in the hurling , and to be fair to them they have more then there fair share done for clare football down through the years ,and deserved to stay up this year , i heard it was a great night down in the club house and especially at the knights last night well deserved and well done lads

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

So we have named joint captains in Cian Dillon and Tony kelly. Then joint vice captains as Shane o donnell and Colin Ryan!!!

Wonder who the vice vice captains are??

It means the roles aren't that important. There can only be one captain on a ship. Having four in the role means they are token positions.

Clareman wrote: »

Stuff like this annoys me, what's wrong with just having a player from the county champions as captain? Being the guy who goes in for the toss doesn't make you a leader. If you don't want to go with that then just name a captain, make a decision and stick to it, nevermind this whole Co or Vice cr@p.

tony is the obvious choice, but everything cant just rest on his shoulders all the time plus the internet will break into tiny pieces if cian dillon had been striped of the captaincy if last years off season is anything to go by

the reality is simple , this is the armature side of the gaa trying to look professional , if next year we happened to win the all ireland i guarantee you it would'nt be too much longer before another county adopts the same idea with half the country spoofing that it worked for clare when they tried it ect....

most of the players in the squad need to improve by atleast 75% on this years showing if we are to have any chance of challenging next year , the same said for management we can have 10 captains and another 10 vice captains for all i care i dont think this sort of stuff really matters any more really

Figerty wrote: »

This was never a good idea. A captain should be a leader not a acquired on the basis of a team winning a county final. The best leader for the job should be picked.
A captain in a dressing room should be the person that goes to the management to represent the players views. The role should should also be taken by the person capable of leading the team, dealing with the press where needed and more importantly winning his own battle with the opposition on the field most of the time.

not trying to be funny but anthony daly in todays world of hysteria media and internet warriors would have been slaughtered after a bad performance , daly was never the stand out player in the clare era over seen by ger loughnane , in fact he would be one of the last you would have picked for the role at the time , if cian dillon was picked for next years captain on his own would he be a favorable choice ? the only choice peope want to see is someone like tony kelly and yes he is the biggest leader as far as performances but we cant ask him to do everything besides from what i have always heard one of the biggest leaders in the background is podge but he is still involved with the football so he cant get it

both kerry and kilkenny have both won all irelands in the last two years with there captains on the bench so i think in this day and age the whole thing is overated

Clareman wrote: »

Being acaptain doesn't mean you're the only leader on the team, it just means you're the guy who goes up for the throw. If management want to name a captain the first thing they have to be sure of is that that player will play every game.

Brian O'Driscoll was on Newtalk last week and talking about this. It was a good insight into what happens within a team and how different players take different roles. He also spoke about the need for players at some stage in their mid-career to move up to a leadership role and how that means that it's more than just the arm band. His view was very interesting on how a player carries themselves, speaks, performs and drives a team forward and also brings young players into to the fold.

To answer Windys point Daly ticked all those boxes. He appeared to carry the burdon lightly even though he didn't . Being captain is more than the toss. Not being captain is also about more than not going up for the toss!

Kerry still operate the county champions nominating captain, which means you get the odd occasion when the Captain can't make the team. Kilkenny's team is so competitive anyone could lose their place! It appears to have 15 leaders.. the KK culture is a credit to them.

Figerty wrote: »

It means the roles aren't that important. There can only be one captain on a ship. Having four in the role means they are token positions.

Maybe it's because it is better to have four lads inside the tent pissing out ,than four lads outside pissing in

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