Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Clare GAA discussion thread

1134135137139140330

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Honestly, Davy gets himself so worked up on the sideline and spends so much abusing the ref and the officials.
    Hardly surprising he can't be calm and make the right switches when needed.

    Cusack might bring a bit of calm to the sideline ??
    I don't think he's gonna stick around if his ideas aren't being taken on board

    at least for the moment it looks like davy is jumping off the high horse here, our biggest problem was wining our own puck outs over the last two years hopefully cusack can rectify the problem

    cusack is also seen as a tactician and an ideas man , which is something we were lacking on the sideline last year especially against cork in thurles


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    What I see as our main problem is that we come up with an idea before hand and stick with it, it seems very difficult for us to adjust to what the opposition are doing on the pitch, it's almost like we decide what they are going to do before the game and allow for that. If we are playing a team with a sweeper then we should automatically have a spare man at the back anyway, we should have 6 forwards running all around the place and be playing the ball into where there's space, simple really.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    By the way, I think Cusack is a great appointment, not only is he a proven winner but he also have experience of dealing with the "politics" of the GAA as part of his role with the GPA, I'd say a lot of the players would know him already. I'd expect him to be primarily working on skills and puck out strategy (which we're very poor at) as well as giving his opinion on what to do, ultimately however the buck will stop with Davy and he'll be the 1 making the decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,240 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    With the amount of goalkeeping experience now on the Clare coaching team, I expect Clare to keep a clean sheet for the entire league and championship.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭Exiled1


    Cusack going to the Clare camp is a make or break move for Davy. Cusack's reputation is of a man difficult to work with...own ideas and a poor listener. He has something to offer but group dynamics might be problematic.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Exiled1 wrote: »
    Cusack going to the Clare camp is a make or break move for Davy. Cusack's reputation is of a man difficult to work with...own ideas and a poor listener. He has something to offer but group dynamics might be problematic.

    This year is make or break for Davy no matter what he does, he has to produce something this year, it's not as if it's just a bunch of young lads he has here, it's the All Ireland Champions from 2 years ago.

    The fact that he's getting someone in that isn't just a "Yes Man" is a great move in my opinion, hopefully it'll work out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Clareman wrote: »
    This year is make or break for Davy no matter what he does, he has to produce something this year, it's not as if it's just a bunch of young lads he has here, it's the All Ireland Champions from 2 years ago.

    The fact that he's getting someone in that isn't just a "Yes Man" is a great move in my opinion, hopefully it'll work out.

    Totally agree it's sink or swim and I always said this last year this year was he's judgement year
    If clare don't get promotion or get all i final he's outgrown the team but he fully deserves support now for bringing in o brien payne and Cusack all highly rated

    He's made mistakes no doubt but he's showed a willingness to change by these appointment
    Of brien is a crucial appointment as with limerick minor he was great communication and being current player himself for club he understands the player management relationship where it doesn't have to be all love just respect and once respect is there discipline follows on the field and i expect clare to be more disciplined

    Cyril farell and Anthony daly both welcomed this

    This imo is great news for clare and farell is correct it's davy last throw of the dice but credit due this is a brave move one he didn't have to make he actually picked a strong character as deep down what is often forgotten is davy wants clare to win also

    I think he wants that second all ireland and when it happens he will go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Exiled1 wrote: »
    Cusack going to the Clare camp is a make or break move for Davy. Cusack's reputation is of a man difficult to work with...own ideas and a poor listener. He has something to offer but group dynamics might be problematic.

    Imo it's a incorrect perception that cusack is a poor listener and some times people with strong views are painted as that when it's not at all but the majority of the time as with cusack it's not he's poor listener but in fact what he says is correct but facing stubborn resistance in gaa from old fashioned ways when he always wanted to embrace change unlike some he doesn't just go with the status quo he sticks to what he beliefs


    Yes some things he does anyone and myself included i don't agree with but he's stance with ccb isn't he's poor listener but as this year proved it's ccb views are absoultey miles off modern gaa so cusack is one hundred percent right to refuse to accept them


    Everything he said of the ccb last and this year was correct
    The school controversy with the board in cork that only changed because shannon and greene in the paper told the story, shannon article that ccb top men travelling football team bus that no other county does, two ccb members going to resign as the Examiner reported a month ago, the appointment of cuthbhertt over clearly and the post ccb statement and the football senior football management process that went on for ten weeks and the worries with the pairc development in growing concern it is over budget all show everything cusack said regards the ccb to be fair it wasn't a cusack rant but he had valid points.

    Cusack will engage in debate but just cause he's good debate who proved nononenss is nonense at times bob Ryan as chairman of the ccb in he's term refused to engage with cusack in debate
    That's hardly decormatic in i don't like your view donal but you can't engage in debate with me
    Cusack would loved to have debate with them but they refuse to


    Cusack communication is top class and he's coaching with a minor colmans winning grade two proved that
    Cusack loves to challenge things and ask why etc imo that doesn't mean he's a poor listener but he loves change
    Shefflin said he doesn't agree with all he said and to be fair shefflin was right cusack probably did make a mountain out of a mole hill with the stepword wives remark but shefflin said huge respect for Cusack


    If Cusack was a poor listener then no way would he have served on the sports campus high performance committe in Abbstown

    He's worked with top top progressive professional in that role and other organisations so he would not have been there if he was a poor listener
    An example imo is there's poor manager out there that refuse to challenge old ways so they are told this is it they don't go against things so there's a view they listen well


    However others when told the same thing and look at the past and say I'm sorry now but your views don't back up results etc so I don't agree some say there a poor listener all because they simply refused to go with the popular.
    In fact truth be told there's ability to listen is actually top notch but they choose to question things
    And it's not there confrontational but just challenges things that are clear as day need change

    Cusack is a great listener and the only problem that some have imo is when he does listen and get information he's views are different to others
    Whatever people views are of him he's interest in coaching is excellent he's huge interest in the game and has helped many team across the country in coaching work shop
    He gave the cork camoige team a team talk about hurling etc a week before there all ireland winning game v kk last year that many said since was inspiring.


    People say why is it always cusack having a go at the ccb with he's views.To be fair many other in cork won't rock the boat bar cusack only Eammon Sweeney and shannon said what needed to be said in articles this year and tomas o se and indeed cork James masters in may with the football


    But very few in cork say what needed to be said and Cusack was the only one for a time saying it but I doubt he liked being the main voice in opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thinlizzy51


    don't like cusacks hurling on a blackboard.im with tom ryan in limerick. sweepers have ruined the game. I think clare will get tangled up in tactics and the natural hurlers like kelly and mc grath will suffer.should be interesting to see how Waterford and clare set up against each other in the championship.could be more like a game of chess than hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Clareman wrote: »
    By the way, I think Cusack is a great appointment, not only is he a proven winner but he also have experience of dealing with the "politics" of the GAA as part of his role with the GPA, I'd say a lot of the players would know him already. I'd expect him to be primarily working on skills and puck out strategy (which we're very poor at) as well as giving his opinion on what to do, ultimately however the buck will stop with Davy and he'll be the 1 making the decisions.

    He'd be well aware of all the politics that goes on behind the scenes alright. No better buachail. But would you not be worried about how he chooses to express himself at times? I'd be 100% in agreement with him on the changes that need to take place regarding the Cork powers that be, especially when it comes to Chairman Frank's iron grip on power. But his choice of certain words and phrases (calling the CCB stooges, the Ayatollah etc etc) just rubs people up the wrong way. Once you personalize an issue, people stop thinking and talking about the issue at hand and focus in on the personal & that's when trouble starts.

    You'd hope he'd be more judicious in his choice of words, whether he is dealing with 20 something kids, the media, or the blazers in the co board. He's a great man for the pithy soundbite alright, but as me dear departed granny used to say....you catch far more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar. I'm not entirely sure if Donal Og knows that.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Cusack should have held off for another year and let Davy be turfed out on his ear, then he could have the Management job instead.
    Trouble now is if Cusack makes progress then he will more than likely be poached by Limerick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    He'd be well aware of all the politics that goes on behind the scenes alright. No better buachail. But would you not be worried about how he chooses to express himself at times? I'd be 100% in agreement with him on the changes that need to take place regarding the Cork powers that be, especially when it comes to Chairman Frank's iron grip on power. But his choice of certain words and phrases (calling the CCB stooges, the Ayatollah etc etc) just rubs people up the wrong way. Once you personalize an issue, people stop thinking and talking about the issue at hand and focus in on the personal & that's when trouble starts.

    You'd hope he'd be more judicious in his choice of words, whether he is dealing with 20 something kids, the media, or the blazers in the co board. He's a great man for the pithy soundbite alright, but as me dear departed granny used to say....you catch far more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar. I'm not entirely sure if Donal Og knows that.
    That's a good post with valid points raised
    No doubt he could have choosed he's words better with the ccb but he's point shouldn't be lost in translation as everything he said regards the ccb has been proved and there's concerns with the new pairc development and when you see kerry last week getting huge money from there fundraising for there excellent centre of excellence it further shows how cork is way off with there

    Don't be surprised if there's a drama with the stadium yet
    I think cusack tailors he approached to who he deal with in he coached a minor team to a grade two county title and the young men rated he's coaching hugely

    He gave an inspirational motivation speech to cork camoige last year v kk and in he's work with the gpa etc he is always measured
    Fair enough he could be better with the ccb but one must take in to account when the ex cork chairman refused to ever deal with cusack in debate while he was in office showed some didn't want decormatic gaa debate with cusack

    When cusack critsed them this year they were meant to give a statement in response to him but then decided not to in its the usal cork response say nothing, ride out the storm and it blows over as other wise a response would have given cusack an opportunity to reply
    I think the ccb are the exception with cusack to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    I see the point regards the sweeper and I agree it can be frustrating in a tactical war fare isn't easy on the eye but unfortunately hurling isn't about that in winning ultimatey counts and yes hurling we all want it to be free flowing but the sweeper won't always be there but it's a phase that on occasion has to be embraced to win but kk really negated Burke influence with waterford this year like they outfoxed cork posession game ten years ago all because it wasn't the system was the problem it was there was no plan b in an adaptability from the main style.
    To beat kk you must have two games plans if not three as they adapt like no other teams as there players are unlike other in all can play different positions equally.

    Tom Ryan is a great hurling man,lives and breeds it no doubt and is extremely passionate and I admire and respect him for he's service to hurling etc and indeed had good success with limerick coming from no where to a degree but unfortunately he's a limited manager who imo thinks blood and thunder hurling win your battles will suffice and fails to adapt a game plan to the players available imo if you look at any team he coached.
    What I mean by blood and thunder is the expression at games years ago in be hit but hit back twice as hard and passion and fire and you win.
    The problem is when you face an opponent like kk who bring that intensity to a game you need something more to win.
    That style worked years ago it rarely work now.

    He is against the sweeper but imo those against it fail to understand the concepts of it and dynamic of it.
    Imo he didn't understand it twenty years ago and he still doesn't.
    Or maybe he does it under stand it but like jbm just had a sheer refusal and defiance not to change ways.

    A classic example of tom Ryan old system being in direct conflict with the players at he's disposal was with Newtownshandrum in 2004 , in none of that team bar the excellent unfortunately would been cork senior mike morrisey at centre forward with an awful injury in Wexford league game could win high ball yet he persisted in playing orthodox hurling to newton who were suited to movement and pace.
    High balls to Ben and Jerry and jp king didn't suit there strength and made good hurlers look average imo.

    Newtownshandrum lost a county final to black Rock the year before as Blackrock physical wise dominated them and Ryan was gone as manager and in one year on with the same panel the outstanding ger Cunningham ul limerick changed a style to suit that team and they won all ireland club and county.
    Nothing else changed from the county final loss to being all ireland champions bar Newtownshandrum playing a posession game and indeed played half forward deep and clare style was a further evolving of the Newtownshandrum posession style
    To this day Ryan will only play a direct style of hurling.

    He's view however don't add up with the logic when playing a waterford blanket defence for example would mean waterford would win. Ryan even as manager in recent times had a turbulent time in westmeath as manager when at the start of the following year as manager just seven players attended training session which showed that they had no confidence in him.

    Look at limerick under twenty one team that won the all ireland this year it was a two man full forward line and it was great to watch as it was done correct.
    Limerick changed there style.
    If Ryan was there that would not have happened.
    Ryan should see the benefits from he's own county his year at under twenty one.

    Ryan has lost all ireland as club manager and two senior all ireland where in particular imo limerick should beaten Wexford when Eammon scallan got sent off in the ist half but Wexford actually played a sweeper in the final twenty years ago after the sending off yet limerick couldn't counter it. Rory mccarthy went back deep and covered a lot of ball with Wexford midfield pushing back deeper.
    That was twenty years ago and Ryan team were beaten tactically yet the game has evolved like it or not since yet the view is sweeper are wrong.
    Griffin knew he had no choice but to defend and the conditions also suited such a style.
    Griffin is a traditional hurling man and long spoke about the traditional game, ham sandwiches etc direct hurling but he knew to win an all ireland he had to change half way through that final.
    Does any Wexford man mind they played a sweeper, no they don't.
    They won the all ireland.

    Ryan attuide was long high ball after ball down on damien quigley who was a brilliant forward but that suited ger cushe. And the sweeper also helped.
    It was predicable old school hurling like night followed day.

    Now this style was persisted with all through the second half and limerick only got four points from play in the second half, two in the last few minutes.
    Four points was a poor return to be honest in one half of hurling with the standard of limerick forwards they had but also he's decision to leave mike galligan on the bench didn't help either yet limerick struggled to score but Ryan changed nothing up front but the belive was keep the high balls coming in and maybe one will be dropped.
    The great full backs like cush under the high ball are simply great under the high ball all because they don't even drop one ball.

    Limerick should have played low fast ball with a two man full forward line to get quigley in to space where he's 2-3 in the semi final showed he would score in space.
    So yes Ryan is entitled to he's opinion but when you look at games he was in charge and the way hurling is now he's view go orthodox won't work.
    Limerick with a very good team last year went orthodox v kk and kk won.
    I always find it hard to belive when logic proves clearly that something isn't working yet the view is stick with it.

    Tom Ryan was involved with limerick under twenty one recently and was again big defeat and same with limerick intermediate in the long ball after ball despite teams winning it and hitting it back up the field as fast as it came down.
    That imo is harder to watch. That's Ryan style of play. Jbm was similar not to the extent of Ryan and it proved with cork that's an outdated style.

    He's also the view that munster rubgy is all that wrong with limerick hurling which is incorrect and indeed ollie moran player for ireland under twenty rubgy and hurling and indeed Cosgrave lyons from this year under twenty one team all played rubgy showed players can play both but once choose code no problem
    Limerick has huge association with rubgy and imo is the home of rubgy in munster but Ryan doesn't support it.
    The problem with limerick hurling isn't all at munster rubgy door step it's imo some like him have old old views on the modern game and refuse to accept or embrace new ways as the view it worked in my time it will work again when it's just imo not logical as the game has evolved hugely.
    Fair enough he's choice on he wants to play the game but he's views I don't agree with.

    He has always been staunch critic jbm and fairly enough jbm was poor tactics in the modern game but jbm won minor all ireland senior all ireland as coach got team that was never expected to do much to an all ireland final.

    Clare as clare man said here don't have ball winners and against the Walsh and Joyce if they go toe to toe with kk will not win.
    Clare movement and width caused kk problem this year in the league relegation battle. In two league games from play v kk clare scored a combined total of a magnificent 3-28 and they didn't go the conventional orthodox route one, up the jumper style.

    They should play a sweeper but with a more refined system in at times as clare man said six forwards but keep changing but has to be a posession game.
    Kk are so far ahead of the rest man for man you won't beat kk imo going to beat them the kk way

    You must have a different style.
    Argentina played fifteen man rubgy v ireland and it worked cause ireland weren't any where near that style but they then tried to play a running game against Australia who like new Zealand are years ahead of that style in there rubgy so it wasn't going to work and Australia one.
    Yes that running style will work v south Africa who are a forward pack so run them around the field makes sense and avoid going in to contact with a team that loves contact
    Its the same concept in hurling imo with teams kk are masters at winning the man on man battles so only a system to create space and over laps will beat them.
    Galway were physical in the final three years ago but lost as while they had a sweeper it failed.
    This year Galway tried to go man for man but kk won.

    Clare huge scoring in the all ireland run two years ago and last year showed twice v kk in the league they can score high scores v them.
    Clare main problem are defence and discipline as if they keep the concession of scores down there's imo few teams outside kk that will score more than clare.

    A game of chess can be long and boring for the neutral but the grand masters won't complain if he wins a game after four hours. Donegal hadn't a hope of winning the all ireland but for there blanket defence.
    I would rather play a boring game of chess and be in the game four hours later and go all out attack,than move out all my pawns and let my king be ruthlessly exposed and check mated after five minutes.
    Where is the joy in that.

    Kerry minor football jack o connor said he has no outstanding forwards this year like former kerry team so he built he's team on a defence and midfield and that system stormed up in the all ireland final and that was kerry winning an all ireland in an unconventional kerry way.
    This is the very same jack that said if he ever played a blanket defence he wouldn't survive in a kerry job.
    Now kerry are embracing that way and just watch kerry under twenty one football team under jack when needed play a sweeper.

    Even weshie fogarty an outspoken pundit on the blanket defence like jack was once now fully advocated that style as he's view was kerry lost to Tyrone by playing orthodox so kerry way now isn't just traditional football, really and truly kerry way is the winning way.
    Style doesn't matter once it's effective and it suits the panel available and the end justified the means and you win an all ireland at the end of the day.
    Dublin under gavin went from Kevin keegan swash buckling attack football we will score more to having the best defence in the o Byrnes cup, league, leinster and the all ireland all because after the Donegal defeat they played a sweeper.
    Gavin learned and realised emotional content of how he likes to play the game and what is effective are two different things and that is why Dublin are now all ireland champions and gavin is like cody a manager that becomes ruthless just like cody did after the galway defeat fourteen years ago.
    The sweeper imo once it's refined in an attacking way built around posession is the only way to beat kk.

    On a different note ex clare and Cork managment Justin mccarthy is being linked to Antrim as an advisor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thinlizzy51


    dont think sweeper system suits clare not with the forwards they have.didn't see Kilkenny employ a sweeper after losing a whole half back line that never lost a competitive game together. also hadn't Jackie for yhe semi or final.brought in a 29 year old and just got on with it.as for scoring decent scores against kilkenny in the league it means nothing.murphy started on o donnell in the league but holden was full back in the championship.for me clare are to caught up in tactics and indiscipline. try free flowing hurling and I think they will be the better for it.best of luck watching Clare v Waterford I think I for one will find something better to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    dont think sweeper system suits clare not with the forwards they have.didn't see Kilkenny employ a sweeper after losing a whole half back line that never lost a competitive game together. also hadn't Jackie for yhe semi or final.brought in a 29 year old and just got on with it.as for scoring decent scores against kilkenny in the league it means nothing.murphy started on o donnell in the league but holden was full back in the championship.for me clare are to caught up in tactics and indiscipline. try free flowing hurling and I think they will be the better for it.best of luck watching Clare v Waterford I think I for one will find something better to do.[/quote

    I totally agree this won't be fairy tale romantic hurling and will be a war of attrition and have no doubt there will be plenty of tension between the two as waterford and it's fair game there entitled to there opinion don't like Davy but like him or not the simple logic is on results they owe him huge respect for being the last management to get them to an all ireland final and winning a munster even though I don't rate munster

    Also mullane will probably start up old feud between him and davy as this year which imo there was no reason to go over old ground brought up the rival between them in an interview but when mullane a truly great player no doubt can even come close to what davy achieved in management imo he can talk
    The last time I checked waterford were not doing too well at under twenty at all at all

    I agree the league isn't like championship and this year imo league was not a good indicator of championship when three teams that had average league imo we're in the last four but the fact kk were in a relegation battle and no one was going to relegate them in kk mean that game they took seriously
    That was a gripping game with a big league crowd and yes kk improved as they do but clare for all problems they had pushed them all the way and this group has no fear of kk from minor and under twenty one and intermediate and indeed in winning the year before in the league at minimum clare compete with kk
    Your right holden wasn't marking Donnell but Murphy is one of kk best defenders yet Donnell causes him huge problem

    People think kk don't do tactics or aren't big in to science and the old traditional views love to say kk just work hard and don't do system
    There's plenty of examples of kk even ten years ago playing sweeper or system but when kk do it were told it's kk working hard as players go back but it's not a sweeper
    It is.

    Kk introduction of mick o flynn as there first physical trainer years ago and ice baths from ten years ago show kk do the science and other stuff other counties do but kk still do the basics better but it's always some view win the fifty v fifty v kk
    A system will only beat kk and whatever system does the following year it has to be further evolved as kk adapt and evolve every year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thinlizzy51


    yes they evole and midfield may drop back .but I have never seen them start a game with a sweeper. for me clare have to find defenders who can defend 1v1 and dont need the help of a xtra man.best game last year in the championship was tipp v galway and Leinster final kk v galway.games involving sweepers are brutal to watch.mullane has already predicted nil all for Waterford v Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    As a KK man (with a Clare father) I would have to agree with posters on here who say that there is too much stock being placed on tactics. The biggest difference with Clare in 2013 was that the players won their own individual battles. The Clare backs especially attacked the ball and while this did leave them vunerable it suited the type of player. In 2014 they played much more from behind which led to alot of frees being conceded. Too much credit was given to and taken by Davy for 2013. Clare have skillfull enough hurlers to let them play an attacking style and whilst they may concede they have the forwards to outscore the opposition at the other end.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I didn't see the show last night, but Davy was on the Ray D'Arcy show last night, I assume to promote Ireland's Fittest Family and looks to have discussed Donal Og's appointment, http://www.balls.ie/gaa/davy-fitz-ray-darcy-show/314353


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    break away from the main discussion for a moment , sixmilebridige completed the double and finished unbeaten in both league and championship in clare for the 2015 year after beating crusheen iin the clare cup final

    miltown will travel to clonmel in two weeks time to face off with clonmel commercials , in the munster club championship semi final , corofin will travel to cahirciveen to face maurice fitzgearld managed st marys in the IFC the same weekend while coolmeen will be in askeeton next saturday to face cappagh in the JFC all 3 ties are munster club semi finals

    in hurling ennistymon repesented clare today in the munster JHC with a win over tipperary's ballylooby-castlegrace they will also be out in two weeks time against waterford side fenor, a great achievement in its self considering cathal malone is now with sixmilebridge

    Clare Cup Final

    Sixmiebridge 0-18 - 1-13 Crusheen

    Munster Junior Hurling Championship 1/4 final

    Enniistymon 2-09 - 1-08 Ballylooby/Castlegace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Watched Naomh Eoin/OCurrys beat Cratloe 0-17 to 1-3 in u21 b championship. Then ridiculously the O'Curry's lads had to play u21 c champ game against Doonbeg 2 hours later. This game went to draw. Extra time was due to be played but common sense from Doonbeg manager said wouldn't be fair to play on account O'Curry's lads playing earlier in day.Why don't county board run u21 championships earlier in year?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Gael85 wrote: »
    Watched Naomh Eoin/OCurrys beat Cratloe 0-17 to 1-3 in u21 b championship. Then ridiculously the O'Curry's lads had to play u21 c champ game against Doonbeg 2 hours later. This game went to draw. Extra time was due to be played but common sense from Doonbeg manager said wouldn't be fair to play on account O'Curry's lads playing earlier in day.Why don't county board run u21 championships earlier in year?

    it used to be played closer to the summer months but the senior clubs were against it , the u21 hurling is slapped together at the start of the year while the football is also rushed through at the end of the year , i dont have much of a problem with the timing of the year but the county board should plan the fixtures better considering the amount of amalgamated teams now teaming up to play at a higher grade , the same thing happens an awful lot more down in kerry where they have a greater emphasis put on amalgamation's

    it is the way to go in my opinion the standard has raised at under age in the last few years but there should be more transparency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    coolmeen 1-11 0-11 cappagh munster JFC

    great win for coolmeen in askeaton today a brilliant performance by cathal o'connor , and a tally of 1-3 without reply half way through the 2nd half was the diffrence for the west clare side , great to see there fortunes have turned fr the better they now will have home advantage against waterford champions roanmore or modiligo on the 22nd of November

    over to wolfe tones tomorrow in the munster IHC at killmallock against bruree , they haven't had the greatest of records in recent times against limerick sides but with respect to there opponents i would give the shannon side a huge shout tomorrow and a serious chance of wining the provincial championship at this grade


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    coolmeen 1-11 0-11 cappagh munster JFC

    great win for coolmeen in askeaton today a brilliant performance by cathal o'connor , and a tally of 1-3 without reply half way through the 2nd half was the diffrence for the west clare side , great to see there fortunes have turned fr the better they now will have home advantage against waterford champions roanmore or modiligo on the 22nd of November

    over to wolfe tones tomorrow in the munster IHC at killmallock against bruree , they haven't had the greatest of records in recent times against limerick sides but with respect to there opponents i would give the shannon side a huge shout tomorrow and a serious chance of wining the provincial championship at this grade
    They got over the line in a very bruising affair. Bruree were physically stronger but Wolfe Tones got the goal just after half time, playing against the wind that really was the difference. Bruree never looked like getting the goal as the Wolfe Tones defence held strong. Final set for 22nd November


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Keano wrote: »
    They got over the line in a very bruising affair. Bruree were physically stronger but Wolfe Tones got the goal just after half time, playing against the wind that really was the difference. Bruree never looked like getting the goal as the Wolfe Tones defence held strong. Final set for 22nd November

    yeah heard that it was a battle , was going to do a synopsis report on it sunday but compleetly forgot , was'nt at the game but it was a fairly impressive win , will make for a decent final against the cork champions , but i do expect tones to win it out , they were given no second chance in the relegation play offs last year and with no disrespect to any of the other teams in the intermediate division they were far too good to go down and stay down i also expect them to be fairly competitive next year come senior

    i have had them down as our best chance of wining silverware in all grades in football or hurling in munster this year but the final will be tough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Gary Brennan included in the International Rules squad, fair play to him.

    http://www.balls.ie/gaa/ireland-international-rules-squad/315541


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    No more tweeting from county boards meetings.

    http://www.the42.ie/clare-gaa-twitter-ban-2442358-Nov2015/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Keano wrote: »
    No more tweeting from county boards meetings.

    http://www.the42.ie/clare-gaa-twitter-ban-2442358-Nov2015/

    County board fail to address poor performance of Clare management over last 2 years and yet have time to ban journalists tweeting. :mad:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Gael85 wrote: »
    County board fail to address poor performance of Clare management over last 2 years and yet have time to ban journalists tweeting. :mad:

    It's the lack of comment about the new setup out in Tulla that has me amazed. 6 dressing rooms, 4 of which have been taken over by the senior hurlers, 1 for changing, 1 for video analysis, 1 for kit and 1 for a games room. Yup, a games room, Playstation and all that.

    Ooooh yeah, and a specially created motif on the floor that had to be custom made, we're going to be the first county to be bankrupted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Keano wrote: »
    No more tweeting from county boards meetings.

    http://www.the42.ie/clare-gaa-twitter-ban-2442358-Nov2015/

    Can they message on facebook.. or text.
    Maybe they can post a letter..

    The county board as so far out of reality it's crazy.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Figerty wrote: »
    Can they message on facebook.. or text.
    Maybe they can post a letter..

    The county board as so far out of reality it's crazy.

    They can't cope with people questioning them, there is a complete and utter sense of fear that's ridicilous, it will get worse now when our permanent employee position will have to be coming an elected position, which is probably why they don't want anyone talking about what's happening during the meetings.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement