Why should a man offer a seat to a woman on train/bus?

Naos wrote: »

Trying to be funny, pedantic or serious? Just so I know how to reply to you.

All three, matey.

Naos wrote: »

Go run a few marathon, then stand on a bus for an hour. Ask me does physical strength or capability come into it then.



Agreed. Women are also perfectly capable of performing tasks such as say, carrying their shopping bags - so should I not offer to help in that scenario?



So you can generalise but I cannot? By the way, I didn't say women work harder than men, someone else did. I stated that if both a man & women are doing the same physical job, then in general, it would be more taxing on the woman.

I'd gladly give my seat up to anyone, woman or man, who ran a few marathons and then had to stand on a bus. But since that doesn't happen too often, I'm not sure why it's relevant to this discussion.

Yes, women are perfectly capable of carrying shopping bags but there's no need to offer to carry them for them, unless one of the bags is clearly heavy and they are struggling.

I'm not generalising. You don't seem to understand what the word means. If I see someone who has grey hair, a lined face and is clearly not in the full flush of youth, it's not a generalisation to say they are older.

If men and women are doing the same physical job, it might depend on the man and the woman. Jeez...

shootermacg wrote: »

Men and women, different but with the same primary goal. Protect your offspring whenever possible. When it comes to making your kid a better person I defer to my wife. When it comes to protecting my family's life that's when I'll step in.

I'm a 6'3 220 lb 10% body fat machine, when I step in, you'll know **** just got real.

That's fine, that's the way you work. Most relationships are partnerships, with both partners contributing equally. But if it works for you to let her carry more of the burden, then fine. That's between you two.

Naos wrote: »

Women just tend to be better at those things though, can't you see that?

If I had to leave a child in either my mother or fathers care, I'd pick my mother every time. I just asked my gf the same question and she picked her mother as well.

We both agreed our fathers would have zero problems and be perfectly capable, just women would go that extra mile/notice something that a guy wouldn't.

I really have to spell this out for you. If you took the average man and the average women and asked them to do a physically taxing activity (strength sapping), who do you think, honestly now, would fair better at it?

I'm not sure why we've suddenly gone from standing on a bus to taking care of children. Women in general might be more tuned in to taking care of children but we were talking about physical strength, not suitability to various jobs or roles.

Standing on a bus doesn't require any particular physical strength, neither does carrying shopping bags.

You have no idea when you see a woman on a bus what kind of work she has been doing, or whether she did the same job as a man, or whether she's an "average" woman

shootermacg wrote: »

I generally work 10 / 16 hr days to provide my family with the finances they require, to live the life I never had, and yes we live in a house that cost 750K

Your point being...?

Naos wrote: »

I was adding to the discussion between shooter and your good self.



Yes it does and you said so yourself earlier:



So they are perfectly capable, unless one is clearly heavy and then they struggle, but there's no physical strength required to carry a shopping bag, make up your mind.

If I see someone covered head to toe in white paint, I'll assume they were painting. If I see someone wearing a Boots uniform, I'll assume they'vle been on their feet for the best part of a day. One mouth, two eyes/ears all that.

Standing on a bus does NOT require physical strength. I said no such thing. Carrying shopping bags doesn't either UNLESS they are very heavy. Read
what I said...

If you see a man wearing the uniform of a retail store, would you give them your seat? How would you know he's an "average" man and thus more able to withstand the hardship? Maybe he has back problems. Fallen arches...

Naos wrote: »

Do you understand what you are saying? Carrying something does not require strength unless it's heavy... read that again to yourself.

If I see a man who is displaying signs of back problems then yes, I'd give him my seat why wouldn't I?

Yes, carrying something doesn't require strength unless it's heavy. If you carry a bag with a feather in it, you don't need strength. If you carry a bag with a 10kg packet of spuds, you need strength. Jeez.....

If a man is not displaying signs of back problems, but has clearly been on his feet all day, then you wouldn't give him your seat, I take it? But how would you know? I mean, what signs would you look for? And what about fallen arches?

And you would give your seat to a woman who has been on her feet all day, who might be perfectly fine...

No logic there.