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Why should a man offer a seat to a woman on train/bus?

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  • #422
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Rough Sleeper wrote: »
    I suppose being treated like a complete imbecile is probably worse than being figuratively emasculated, so your hideously transparent ruse might work, in that way.


    Jesus, harsh much? I'd rather risk the man being a complete arse and being offended than leave an elderly man in potential discomfort. He'll get over someone insinuating he's old, it might take him longer to get over a dodge hip or a fall.


  • #423
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    NachoBusiness wrote: »
    Okay, I'm on the Luas, sitting in a nice warm seat..

    Two women are standing right in front of me weighed down by shopping. What should I do??

    Apart from stop taking pictures of their feet.


    Ask your one in the maroon pants where she got her jumper, I love the colour


  • #424
    mickstupp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    I always offer my seat to women or elderly. Doesn't cost anything to be nice.


  • #425
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,116 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    py2006 wrote: »
    Whats an uppie?


    When you have the whole internet in front of you, and you haven't even bothered to google before you ask a question like that, then your question doesn't deserve an answer. You haven't provided any sort of context for where you read it, so all I can think is that it's the singular form of uppies.

    What do you think it is yourself?


  • #426
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Ask your one in the maroon pants where she got her jumper, I love the colour

    It's from Dunnes, about a year ago. My gran sent me one in the same colour for last Christmas, but it has a zip up the back of the neck, which I hate, and it didn't wash well. I'll wear it when I see her at Christmas though. :)


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  • #427
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    When you have the whole internet in front of you, and you haven't even bothered to google before you ask a question like that, then your question doesn't deserve an answer. You haven't provided any sort of context for where you read it, so all I can think is that it's the singular form of uppies.

    What do you think it is yourself?

    The post was deleted just as I replied, stop being so condescending


  • #428
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,116 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    py2006 wrote: »
    The post was deleted just as I replied, stop being so condescending


    Let me guess - I'm a feminist now too :pac:


    Any idea what an uppie is yet?

    Maybe it's "puppies" and the poster realised the error, an uppie of a woman's puppies?

    Like a selfie, but a picture of a woman with her puppies on show?

    Cocker spaniels are quite popular :pac:


  • #429
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    mickstupp wrote: »
    I always offer my seat to women or elderly. Doesn't cost anything to be nice.

    Why is there an age restriction on being nice to men?


  • #430
    mickstupp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    psinno wrote: »
    Why is there an age restriction on being nice to men?
    I don't remember saying there was. I just don't feel a need to be nice to men. I was brought up to be nice to women, probably because they aren't treated as well as they should be. I agreed with that then, and I still think it now. Women are not treated as well or respectfully as they should be. Or maybe they are where you're from, but I see the opposite every day.


  • #431
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Jesus, harsh much? I'd rather risk the man being a complete arse and being offended than leave an elderly man in potential discomfort. He'll get over someone insinuating he's old, it might take him longer to get over a dodge hip or a fall.

    I worked for one of the best universities in the world once upon a time, and this was years ago...before internet justice warriors, and some graduates from 1935 were coming, and I had suggested that someone wait by the steps {massive steps!} in case someone needed assistance....these were OLD people....and I was told no we can't do that, it's ageist.

    That is egalitarianism. And your courtesy, as much as I agree with it and practise it myself, is politically a black mark on your moral copy book.

    ANd I am a woman, who parents alone and has to teach my son how to be a man. He is too young for giving up seats...but he is not too young to learn that you let the ladies out first in the elevator....and I end up by accomplice being a courteous man.


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  • #432
    animaal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 815 ✭✭✭animaal


    I had no idea people felt so strongly about this, on either side.

    Obviously, people who need a seat (through age/injury/pregnancy/whatever) should be offered one. Goes without saying.

    After that, who cares? If you have a seat, you're free to keep sitting in it, or offer it only to a woman, or only to anybody wearing a red cardigan. Or you might decide to stay in it because you deserve it just as much as any other healthy person. It's up to you.

    If somebody looks down on you for any of those decisions, they're not worth thinking about.


  • #433
    whatismyname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    mickstupp wrote: »
    I always offer my seat to women or elderly. Doesn't cost anything to be nice.

    Why are you not so nice to men?

    Edit: Sorry just notice you'd already posted the answer above, that you don't feel a need to be nice to men.

    Cool.


  • #434
    Rym Shanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Rym Shanley


    I get Dublin Bus and will give my seat up to

    - Old people
    - Pregnant ladies
    - People with obvious physical issues [crutches / slings etc]

    I won't give my seat to people who don't fit any of the above categories AND flash a social welfare pass to the driver. They can f**k off.


  • #435
    MilesMorales1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    myshirt wrote: »
    Christ. 13 sisters? I'd say hand me downs were interesting in your house if you were the youngest. I thought I had it bad with 4 sisters and hard economic times.

    You ever wore pink shorts in 90s North West England? Its not good :P


  • #436
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Because if it was my mother or sister, I'd appreciate a guy offering them a seat.

    If it was my brother, lazy bastard can stand :)


  • #437
    Rym Shanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Rym Shanley


    Naos wrote: »
    If it was my brother, lazy bastard can stand :)

    Were your parents not married?


  • #438
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Rym Shanley wrote: »
    Were your parents not married?

    Trying to be funny, pedantic or serious? Just so I know how to reply to you.


  • #439
    shootermacg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    I think on average, women have to work harder than guys for the most part. If I see someone that looks under the weather, old and infirm or just tired in general, I'll happily give up a seat, to the point that I don't even take a seat anymore.

    I do hate seeing "entitled" women racing for seats, young guys overtly concentrating on their phones while a pregnant women / old person / dad with multiple kids is standing nearby.

    I don't think its a chauvinist thing. It is programming that's been beaten into me as a kid by both my mum and dad. I think women are some of the most intelligent, upbeat and selfless people I've ever met (just using my wife / mother as an example here).

    But all I have to say is, as far as arguing about equality, if a titanic event happened and women were treated as weak men (feminist goal), not one woman would survive the event, not bloody one.


  • #440
    katydid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    shootermacg wrote: »
    I think on average, women have to work harder than guys for the most part. .

    How do you work that out?


  • #441
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    katydid wrote: »
    How do you work that out?

    If he/she means in a physical sense, maybe because in general they are weaker so need to exert more effort during physical activities.


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  • #442
    katydid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    Naos wrote: »
    If he/she means in a physical sense, maybe because in general they are weaker so need to exert more effort in physical activities.
    Hmmm


  • #443
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    katydid wrote: »
    Hmmm

    Am I incorrect? :)


  • #444
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Naos wrote: »
    If he/she means in a physical sense, maybe because in general they are weaker so need to exert more effort in physical activities.

    I won't argue that women tend to be physically weaker particularly in upper body strength but this isn't heaving bags of coal or something so isn't it a bit patronizing suggesting women are delicate flowers for whom standing is any great exertion.


  • #445
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    I won't argue that women tend to be physically weaker particularly in upper body strength but this isn't heaving bags of coal or something so isn't it a bit patronizing suggesting women are delicate flowers for whom standing is any great exertion.

    The poster stated that women work harder - I took it as if they had a long work day, it could have been tougher on them than a guys workday doing the same job.

    I wasn't being patronizing.


  • #446
    Azalea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    Naos wrote: »
    Because if it was my mother or sister, I'd appreciate a guy offering them a seat.

    If it was my brother, lazy bastard can stand :)
    But why is he less deserving of a seat just because he's a guy?

    Interesting the way stuff that kinda undermines men nearly always gets blamed on the feminists, or just women full stop. :)


  • #447
    katydid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    Naos wrote: »
    The poster stated that women work harder - I took it as if they had a long work day, it could have been tougher on them than a guys workday doing the same job.

    I wasn't being patronizing.

    I'm sure you weren't, but it's still an odd statement. You can't possibly generalise about these things.


  • #448
    katydid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    Naos wrote: »
    Am I incorrect? :)

    I have no idea. It's a strange statement. Unless you know the work any individual woman or man does, how can you possibly know?


  • #449
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    katydid wrote: »
    I'm sure you weren't, but it's still an odd statement. You can't possibly generalise about these things.

    Why can't I generalise? You generalise when you decide that someone is an elder and that you should give them your seat as they need it.


  • #450
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Azalea wrote: »
    But why is he less deserving of a seat just because he's a guy?

    Interesting the way stuff that kinda undermines men nearly always gets blamed on the feminists, or just women full stop. :)

    It's nothing to do with deserving it, it's just how I was brought up. A guy, in general, is more physically capable than a lady. As such, if it's giving up a seat or carrying shopping bags then that's what should be done.


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  • #451
    katydid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    Naos wrote: »
    Why can't I generalise? You generalise when you decide that someone is an elder and that you should give them your seat as they need it.
    I told you why you can't generalise. When you say that women harder than men, how can you possible know? Surely it depends on the individual man, woman and work?

    It's kind of easier to generalise when someone is clearly on older person.


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