Why should a man offer a seat to a woman on train/bus?

amdublin wrote: »

Putting your child on your lap where you can hold on to the is dangerous???? I would have thought unrestrained on the seat beside would be more dangerous?
And it terrifies her? You're going to have to explain that one please.

Any hoo as long as you pay full carriage so when I ask you to move her you can show me the ticket. You don't pay for her I'll be asking you to take her on to your lap thanks very much.

If anyone were to try that with me over my child, I'd simply tell them no first, and if they insisted, I'd tell them go complain to the bus driver. Hand luggage you might have a point, but a child is not hand luggage. I wouldn't even bother offering you my own seat if you came at me with that attitude demanding to see my child's ticket. I wouldn't be able to take you seriously.

everlast75 wrote:

I note however others (including Candie) have responded on my behalf and hit the nail on the head.

But although Candie had agreeable posts, they weren't entirely relevant because I was under the impression thia was about offering women and women alone a seat, not offering everyone a seat.

DeanAustin wrote:

If you live your life in a world devoid of illogical acts, you'll live in a pretty dull world.

Ah come off it. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing and not wanting to partake in things that are completely pointless.

Cork Lass wrote:

This thread has really got me thinking. Do some people just get offended for the sake of it? I have been offered seats on a bus and have either accepted or refused as I saw fit - I've never been offended by it and I hope that those people I've offered a seat to have not been offended by me. I love when someone holds a door open for me and always make sure to thank them, I will also hold a door for someone behind me be they male or female. I think people do this out of politeness and nothing else. My husband would always offer his seat to a woman, he's a polite person and not a sexist. To those women who are offended by being offered a seat by a man answer me this - would you be as offended if he was offering you the last place on a lifeboat or would you be willing to sink ? There are lots of real problems in the world that we can get our feminist panties in a twist over but this to my mind is not one of them.

But same as the first post, are we not talking about giving up a seat to women only and not men? Again, there is a difference between someone holding a door they are already at, and offering a seat to a woman solely because of her gender.

Deleted User wrote:

Other kerrazzee stuff I do that has no real meaning, beyond being courteous, and that is gender and age specific (as in I might not do these for a young man).

Ah but could you really consider yourself courteous if you pick and choose who you are courteous to?

Look, at the risk of repeating myself.

I was brought up to think it's a nice thing to do.

I've continued to do it because, on balance, I don't see anything wrong with it, I don't mind standing, it doesn't hurt anyone and I just might make someone happy by doing it.

I don't make a huge deal of it - I don't bow over, point to the seat with one arm and make a sweeping gesture with the other so as to draw attention to my "noble/sexist" deed. No one gets embarrased. It's usually eye contact and maybe a pointing to the seat..

Maybe I do feel good about being polite. Ye can be cynical and say that's why I do it and that is selfish. People who say "there's no such thing as a selfless act" generally use that as a reason to feel better about acting like a dick, so like those who get offended by a nice act, I leave them to it.

Again with the feminist word being thrown around! Jaysus.

I'm against giving a woman a seat just because she is a woman. It does not (I repeat, does not) make me some crazy feminist person. It means people doing pointless sh*te for the sake of doing pointless sh*te annoys me. I don't see giving up a seat for a woman to be polite. I see it as a pointless waste of energy and time. Same with taking off hats, running to open doors, using cutlery from the outside in etc. But then, from the sounds of this thread, I'm some sort of mannerless gowl who was brought up in a hedge. I would give me seat to whoever needs it. I would open a door I am at for whoever is behind me or directly in front of me. I would carry the shopping bag for whoever can't. If I was meeting someone on a narrow road, I would pull in. I will say please and thank you. To me, these are manners. Not getting up on public transport because there's a woman standing. Not taking a hat off indoors. Not refusing sit until all the females at the table are sitting. Not running half way across the room to open a door for someone who can open it themselves. This doesn't make me some sort of feminazi, or whatever else. It makes me intolerant to pointless crap.

Your first post was somewhat agreeable. This post is more hysterical than any of the posts it is giving out about...

FortySeven wrote:

FFS. Is it any wonder our children walk around with their hoods up and headphones in? What a complicated world we have created for them.

I think the old ways are far more complicated. Now it's simply give your seat to who needs it. It seems people are lamenting giving your seat to these certain people that it doesn't make sense to give it to because it's their own version of manners, otherwise they get offended if you don't do it or can't see the reason behind why they do.

zeffabelli wrote:

Well you can do that, but it will be noted.


You may think it's pointless but they signify that you can oblige protocols.


And they do matter in certain contexts or you will be marked as uncouth.

Should you oblige pointless protocols? I strongly disagree.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don't know if you're missing the point on purpose or not so I'll try to explain. It's about treating people equally. You're not the biggest arźeholes on the planet, but it's not treating people equally.

If you can't get your head around the concept of treating the genders equally, then I don't know what to tell you.

. Oh do. Do go on banging that drum zealously and fervently. spread the word to us morons who cannot grasp the concept of gender equality. I can imagine you policing the buses and watching out for all this equality bashing behaviour.

DellyBelly wrote: »

I was raised by my parents to give up my seat to old, disabled or mentally ill people and women. It's something I do now without even thinking. The only issue I do havei s what age is old. I personallyt honk anyone over 45 is old but it's hard to judge ages and I'd be afraid sometimes I might offend someone.

I've just celebrated my 46th birthday last week. Now I must apply for my hidden hearing aid and Zimmer frame.

I'm 5 months pregnant now I rarely get offered a seat on the luas same thing happened on dart when I took it couple weeks back
I know the luas is but would be nice to be offered at least

Wow all this time I've been sitting on the top deck of the bus unaware of the tense seat situation going on downstairs.