New Star Trek TV show - Star Trek Discovery

The_Valeyard · 02-11-2015 5:14pm #1

Confirmed. A new Star Trek tv show will be launched in 2017

http://www.startrek.com/article/new-star-trek-series-premieres-january-2017

Could be interesting!!!!! I am excited by this!!!!

squonk · 02-11-2015 5:56pm

This could be a good thing. It depends though on whether it'll be based ont he JJ timeline or the original. I'm for the original myself. I'm feeling positive but somewhat ferful as well.

squonk · 02-11-2015 5:56pm

This could be a good thing. It depends though on whether it'll be based ont he JJ timeline or the original. I'm for the original myself. I'm feeling positive but somewhat fearful as well.

Technocentral · 02-11-2015 7:01pm

Hopefully more in the spirit of ST:TOS and TNG than the dreadful recent action movies.

02-11-2015 7:03pm

Where will this sit within the timeline? Unless it is following the Star Trek movies, which rewrote that timeline.

uck51js9zml2yt · 02-11-2015 7:03pm

2017

pixelburp · 02-11-2015 7:12pm

Technocentral wrote: »

Hopefully more in the spirit of ST:TOS and TNG than the dreadful recent action movies.

In theory, even if it's set in the new universe, the combination of a smaller budget & the longer narrative format of a TV series should enforce more character-based storytelling; I think we can take it as given it won't be as openly splashy and vacuous as the recent films. How interesting the concept & its characters will be is an entirely different question however.

LordSutch · 02-11-2015 7:24pm

Another Star trek! how many reincarnations is that?

As a fan of the original Star Trek + Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek Next generation & Star trek Enterprise I cant help thinking that yet another Star Trek might be a bridge too far? < questionmark.

I love Sci-Fi set in space, so fingers crossed . . . . .

Live long and prosper.

Tar.Aldarion · 02-11-2015 7:27pm

Hopefully they don't make some crsp thing, star trek is amazing, hope they can cspture the greatness in a new series

Agent Coulson · 02-11-2015 9:03pm

Very clever by CBS to make it a first run exclusive on there streaming platform they are guaranteed to get big sign up numbers for it.

They keep there top shows off Netflix and Hulu as well which means if you want to watch legally online you have to pay them.

Of course that's the US only.

The bidding starts now for the rest of the world.

Technocentral · 02-11-2015 9:37pm

Like those recent films I wouldn't include Enterprise in the canon, didn't feel like ST at all. For me ST ended with Voyager or the final TNG film, whichever came last.

02-11-2015 9:44pm

I really enjoyed all of them, bar TOS and Enterprise. TOS was just too campy for me and uninteresting (I know, I know) and Enterprise was just.. Enterprise.

It'd be great if it's post Voyager.

KingBrian2 · 02-11-2015 9:47pm

Some Enterprise episodes were canon.

02-11-2015 10:51pm

Probably the biggest being how the Klingons changed from TOS to TNG?

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 02-11-2015 11:44pm

I'd like something similar to DS9 again.

ziedth · 02-11-2015 11:44pm

I'm a massive DS9 fan really enjoyed TNG I felt Voyager had its moments kinda suffered through the original series and just couldn't even attempt enterprise so I'm fairly excited about this. If it hovers somewhere between Voyager and TNG I'll be very happy

Technocentral · 03-11-2015 1:36am

Deleted User wrote:

I really enjoyed all of them, bar TOS and Enterprise. TOS was just too campy for me and uninteresting (I know, I know) and Enterprise was just.. Enterprise.

You can't be a fan of Trek without loving TOS, Spock was one of the best characters in any form of Sci Fi ever, full stop.

paulheu · 03-11-2015 1:40am

USA only .. Not that that is going to prevent the torrents from coming in.. :P

03-11-2015 11:11am

Technocentral wrote: »

You can't be a fan of Trek without loving TOS, Spock was one of the best characters in any form of Sci Fi ever, full stop.

I think it's because TNG was my first experience of Trek as a young kid and just could never get into TOS.

Would never claim to be a true trekkie!

FloatingVoter · 03-11-2015 11:21am

More Picard than Kirk in terms of plot (ie. brains over brawn). And Q. We need more Q.
Last time I saw the entity he was reduced to dropping airliners from the sky in Breaking Bad. I mean, air traffic control for a god. Could have been an amoeba but no.....instead he gets Jesse Pinkman as a potential son in law.

Technocentral · 03-11-2015 7:33pm

FloatingVoter wrote: »

More Picard than Kirk in terms of plot (ie. brains over brawn). And Q. We need more Q.
Last time I saw the entity he was reduced to dropping airliners from the sky in Breaking Bad. I mean, air traffic control for a god. Could have been an amoeba but no.....instead he gets Jesse Pinkman as a potential son in law.

Q and Troi were the worse characters in the otherwise excellent TNG, I always skip the Q episodes on Flix, irritating git.

uck51js9zml2yt · 03-11-2015 10:22pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think it's because TNG was my first experience of Trek as a young kid and just could never get into TOS.

Would never claim to be a true trekkie!

I remember the strings on the puppets in the first episode of tos

Never got into enterprise.
TOS was grand until special effects came on the scene and wechad life but not as we knew it!

marcbrophy · 03-11-2015 11:20pm

Actually re-watching DS9 on Netflix at the moment, so this news has me very excited.

Netflix or Amazon might be able to sway rights to show it in Europe hopefully, as we all know CBS and Hulu and the likes, have no interest in breaking into the EU markets!

The_Valeyard · 03-11-2015 11:30pm

Wonder if it's the Captain Worf that was suggested. Or the Star Trek: Federation idea. Or a whole new one

Technocentral · 04-11-2015 12:33am

marcbrophy wrote: »

Actually re-watching DS9 on Netflix at the moment, so this news has me very excited.

Netflix or Amazon might be able to sway rights to show it in Europe hopefully, as we all know CBS and Hulu and the likes, have no interest in breaking into the EU markets!

Btw TNG is now in HD on Netflix US, a pleasure to watch now, properly colour graded and great detail.

Kirby · 04-11-2015 11:54am

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wonder if it's the Captain Worf that was suggested. Or the Star Trek: Federation idea. Or a whole new one

Worfs story has been told at this point. He's had several hundred episodes, spanning two series and four movies.

They will go with an all new cast and crew. I'm sure of it.

Blackhorse Slim · 04-11-2015 12:12pm

Captain Wesley. Make it so.

Thargor · 04-11-2015 12:31pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Very clever by CBS to make it a first run exclusive on there streaming platform they are guaranteed to get big sign up numbers for it.

Big spike in piracy more like, how many streaming services do these clowns of companies think people are going to pay for?

Anyone hoping for the Picard/Sisko/Janeway universe will be disappointed, Alex Kurtzman from the first Abrams film is on board so nearly guaranteed it's set in the Abrams universe. Id say any slim hope of seeing the original universe again is now dead. Just reading Worfs AMA on Reddit recently and he was really excited about doing a new series with him as captain of a small ship, all gone now

marcbrophy · 04-11-2015 12:32pm

Technocentral wrote: »

Btw TNG is now in HD on Netflix US, a pleasure to watch now, properly colour graded and great detail.

That's right, I'd heard about that one.
I must get around to watching the new versions, although I only finished a re-watch a few mothns before they updated them

04-11-2015 1:34pm

From what I've heard in Q&A's with Michael Dorn on Reddit, the Worf-centric TV series has a good shot at being made. Everyone wants to do it, but they're just waiting for the network.

Thargor · 04-11-2015 2:22pm

They wont give permission though, they'll see it as diluting the new franchise or too confusing to morons or both.

Kev W · 04-11-2015 2:24pm

Technocentral wrote: »

You can't be a fan of Trek without loving TOS, Spock was one of the best characters in any form of Sci Fi ever, full stop.

Of course you can.

04-11-2015 3:45pm

So.. does anyone actually know how this is fitting within the timeline?

Kev W · 04-11-2015 4:19pm

They're not saying yet, probably it hasn't even been decided.

If I were betting on it my money would go on it being concurrent with the movies but with a different crew.

If I were deciding it it would be set in the original timeline post-TNG, keeping the movie and TV versions separate and allowing for characters from the TV shows to return for guest appearances. That seems really unlikely though.

Thargor · 04-11-2015 4:35pm

It'll be new timeline, of course it will, they're not interested in serving Trek fans, they're interested in money through audience numbers and nobodies going to throw away 100 million worth of advertising that the films provide, it would be like Marvel putting Agents of Shield in a different universe to the Avengers.

Agent Coulson · 04-11-2015 9:31pm

Leslie Moonves Explains Why 'Star Trek' Went to CBS All Access

One of the most common responses to news that Star Trek was returning to the small screen was the surprise that it would run on CBS' digital VOD subscription platform, CBS All Access.

Speaking to reporters Tuesday during its third-quarter earnings call, CBS Corp. president and CEO Leslie Moonves explained why Star Trek is boldly going where it's never gone before.

"A lot of conversation went into what we were going to do [with Star Trek]. All Access is very important," Moonves told analysts, stressing that CBS will remain both a content supplier of second-window fare for Netflix as well as a competitor.

"We remain a good partner for Netflix and Hulu. Star Trek is a family jewel; it's an important piece of business for us as we go forward," said Moonves. "We're looking to do original content on All Access and build up that platform. Netflix is our friend a competitor. They compete with [CBS Corp.'s] Showtime. All Access will put out original content and knowing the loyalty of Star Trek fans, this will boost it. … There's about a billion channels out there and because of Star Trek, people will know what All Access is about."

CBS announced Monday that its new Star Trek series, which hails from its sibling studio, would be executive produced by Alex Kurtzman. The series will premiere in January 2017 on the network with subsequent episodes produced exclusively for its digital subscription VOD platform, CBS All Access. Star Trek will be the first original scripted series produced specifically for its digital platform and comes as every series in the cult classic is already part of All Access' programming library. Moonves also stressed that Star Trek will be the first of a scripted expansion for All Access.

The executive also stressed that all of the Star Trek series have done "exceedingly well" in streaming on All Access and noted that the beloved franchise still "resonates today."

"All the series have done well in terms of streaming, he said. "Added in to that, Star Trek is a huge international franchise. Our international distribution guy is going crazy; he can't wait to get out to the marketplace and sell that. Right away, we're more than halfway home on the cost of the show from international alone. The risk is small in seeing the track record. We think it'll be great and bring in a lot more subscribers. We're really excited about it."

Star Trek 2017 will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966. The next series comes four months after the beloved franchise celebrates its 50th anniversary.

While Moonves declined to provide the total number of subscribers, he revealed that All Access posted its largest subscriber growth yet in September and recently debuted on Apple TV.

Moonves opened the call by noting that the company can "live long and prosper" with a nod to the property. He said additional announcements about Star Trek — both behind and in front of the camera — would be coming soon.

"[Star Trek 2017 is a] world-class effort that will make all Star Trek fans proud," he said, calling Trekkies the "most passionate fans in the world." Moonves anticipated "millions" signing up for All Access, which will allow diehards to watch the new series any time, any place and on any device they'd like — a move the exec said is consistent with how many viewers are watching CBS' content.

Going forward, Moonves said that there have been conversations about offering a $9.99 ad-free version of All Access to compete with Hulu's similarly launched effort.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/why-star-trek-went-cbs-836710

charlietheminxx · 05-11-2015 9:29am

I enjoyed the new movies but I don't want to see a whole series in that timeline. We need to be moving forward into the future instead of back to start! Would love the see the doctor (EMH Mark 1) pop up at least in a cameo. I think the new series should certainly start after Voyager. We are apparently in the golden age of TV, if they could not screw this up then that would be great.

squonk · 05-11-2015 10:26am

To me, based on the above, it sounds lke they needed to plant a flag for that CBS All Access service. They figured the very best way to do that was to do a Star Trek series. That'd certainly get the world talking. Job done!

Now, it doesn't sound like any of the regular Star Trek people are involved here at all. That could be a good or bad thing. Rick Berman didn't do the franchise any favours in the end I felt. I'm no fan of the JJ-verse movies but they breathed new life into the franchise.

I can't see this going any other way than the JJ-verse to be honest. They've spent millions making 3 movies that sucked in a whole swathe of new fans. Now, wheteher those fans ever went back to watch TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY or just rewatched the movies is another question.

AFAIR Kurzman is involved in the Hawaii Five O reboot. I find Five O entertaining and a good lighthearted watch so I'm not sure if I should be worried about this. One of the problems with the films is they're a shoot em' up in space. That's not a Star Trek show I want to watch. Five O, for all it's silliness, does tackle some more serious issues. It's not a 100% bubblegum show. I'm starting to worry that they may be considering pitching a JJ-verse show with shades of Five O. I think this could be populate but nothing related to the Star Trek we all know and love. I really hope I can be proved wrong. I really want to be.

Another consideration is that one of the things that has always made Star Trek great was the ship. Mostly the ships were actual models used. Given that they're talking of airing this in 13 months time, it sounds like it could be a huge CGI fest. I'm starting to feel like this could be a cheap grab series that will have bigger payoffs with profits and little input in terms of work on models and decent CGI. For now though it's all speculation. I suppose it'll be next year before we know more but a year turnaround for a complex show like Star Trek seems like exceptional progress if they can do it well.

Antar Bolaeisk · 05-11-2015 4:48pm

It does sound like they're not too interested in making new Star Trek, just in making something onto which they can call Star Trek to sell their new service.

Kev W · 05-11-2015 5:47pm

Wow, the pessimism here is genuinely depressing.

Thargor · 05-11-2015 5:54pm

Kev W wrote: »

Wow, the pessimism here is genuinely depressing.

If the films this series will most likely be based on had been any good people would be swinging from the rafters, but they were A. Moronic sh1t and B. stuck in the past rebooting tired old ideas like everything these days, people want new updates in Star Trek not origin stories and other crap like that.

Kev W · 05-11-2015 6:34pm

Thargor wrote: »

If the films this series will most likely be based on had been any good people would be swinging from the rafters, but they were A. Moronic sh1t and B. stuck in the past rebooting tired old ideas like everything these days, people want new updates in Star Trek not origin stories and other crap like that.

So it's best to get the moaning in now, I suppose. God, imagine if they ended up making a great show and we never got to whinge about it at all!

Antar Bolaeisk · 05-11-2015 7:50pm

Kev W wrote: »

Wow, the pessimism here is genuinely depressing.

I'd love for it to be great, I want it to be great, I just think it's being made for the wrong reasons and by the wrong people. I really hope I'm wrong.

Kev W · 05-11-2015 8:01pm

I'm not sure what "the wrong reasons" are in this context. They want to make a TV show, there's not a great moral weight to that.

Thargor · 05-11-2015 8:48pm

Kev W wrote: »

So it's best to get the moaning in now, I suppose. God, imagine if they ended up making a great show and we never got to whinge about it at all!

This is something 99% of the Star Trek fanbase dont want to see, Gene Roddenberrys vision being torn up and shat all over for the sake of a generic action movie/tv show that contributes absolutely nothing to anything. The way they portrayed the female characters in both films tells you everything you need to know about the people makingthese films. If you dont think people are going to complain about that with something like Star Trek you're deluded. I heard Star Wars fans weren't too happy about the Phantom Menace either, might want to watch out for some moaning there aswell.

Blazer · 05-11-2015 8:50pm

ziedth wrote: »

I'm a massive DS9 fan really enjoyed TNG I felt Voyager had its moments kinda suffered through the original series and just couldn't even attempt enterprise so I'm fairly excited about this. If it hovers somewhere between Voyager and TNG I'll be very happy

Enterprise was a lot better than people give credit for. For me Voyager was by far and away the worst Star Trek ever

Kev W · 05-11-2015 8:58pm

Thargor wrote: »

This is something 99% of the Star Trek fanbase dont want to see, Gene Roddenberrys vision being torn up and shat all over for the sake of a generic action movie/tv show that contributes absolutely nothing to anything. The way they portrayed the female characters in both films tells you everything you need to know about the people makingthese films. If you dont think people are going to complain about that with something like Star Trek you're deluded. I heard Star Wars fans weren't too happy about the Phantom Menace either, might want to watch out for some moaning there aswell.

I think the pertinent difference between The Phantom Menace and the newly announced Star Trek is that we KNOW that The Phantom Menace is rubbish.

Thargor · 05-11-2015 9:36pm

Well they're 2 for 2 in the clueless about Star Trek stakes so it would be a strange thread where everyone was super excited about how they were going to pull it out of the bag on the third attempt!

Technocentral · 05-11-2015 10:02pm

Thargor wrote: »

If the films this series will most likely be based on had been any good people would be swinging from the rafters, but they were A. Moronic sh1t and B. stuck in the past rebooting tired old ideas like everything these days, people want new updates in Star Trek not origin stories and other crap like that.

So true, action film rubbish aimed at teenage boys. They could have chosen any film franchise, they were fook all to do with Trek.

Technocentral · 05-11-2015 10:14pm

Blazer wrote: »

Enterprise was a lot better than people give credit for. For me Voyager was by far and away the worst Star Trek ever

I'd say the TV ranking is:

1. TOS (by a long shot). 9/10
2.TNG (brilliant overall apart from awful bloody characters like Q and Troi.) 7.5/10
3. Voyager, some fantastic episodes, great captain and secondary characters like Harry, Tuvok and Seven of Nine. 6.5/10
4. Deep Space Nine, (pretty good, 5/10).

Enterprise, awful generic sci fi. (2/10). Hope new one is a smart reboot like Battlestar, if so it could be great. But ifs just a bunch of pretty boys and girls taking part in frenetic action scenes aimed at the masses it will be a waste of time.

ixoy · 06-11-2015 12:55am

For myself:
1. DS9 - Loved the darker, serialized arc in the second half of the show
2. TNG - Great cast and some very clever stories
3. TOS - Good cast but I found the scripts weaker
4. Voyager - Weak. Little to recommend it in general, Doc aside. And Neelix. Ugh.
5. Enterprise - Just no.

New series will be set in the rebooted film universe. They're not going to resurrect a TV show that finished 10 years ago to general indifference. I'd love if they did and set it post DS9's aftermath or even further into the future. It's not going to happen because the Trek fanbase for that isn't there next to the new one created from the show.
Hopefully it'll be set quite far apart from the new films but I'd suspect the timelines will be fairly concurrent so as to firm their grasp on the market.

New Star Trek TV show - Star Trek Discovery

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