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Film Snobs!!!

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  • #62
    FortySeven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    MadDog76 wrote: »
    The Hangover made me laugh ......... I'm also a big fan of the Coen Brother's work .......... how is that even possible!??!!?!!! :confused:

    Have you one arm longer than the other? Do your knuckles drag? :D


  • #63
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    The Hangover made me laugh ......... I'm also a big fan of the Coen Brother's work .......... how is that even possible!??!!?!!! :confused:


    You have one head but two brains, obviously.


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Please do not show your children The Hangover or The 40 Year Old Virgin .......... you would know that yourself if you watched them ......... you can also knock Ted off the kid's list.

    I enjoyed the 40 Year Old Virgin, it was amiable and Carrell is likeable.

    Didn't like the Hangover, too forced.

    Ted was just dire, watched it until some song about farts after about 10 minutes and felt like throwing something at the telly.

    I like horrors, not splatter fests or slashers or shockers, but eerie creepy ones. For me the main thing about a film is whether it entertains, and I find being unsettled entertaining.


  • #65
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Nodin wrote: »
    You have one head but two brains, obviously.

    Making me twice as intelligent as everybody else so!! :)


  • #66
    Cedrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    MadsL wrote: »
    One thing I do enjoy is that at least "film snobs" don't treat the cinema as if it were their own living room.

    +1
    One time I went to the cinema and the idiot next to me thought he was at a match, he threw every punch that was thrown on screen while shouting "yesr boy, give it to him" and laughed loudly all the way through, it was that rollicking comedy '12 years a slave'. His wife kept wailing "oh jesus" "oh my god".
    I will never return to that cinema.


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  • #67
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I enjoyed the 40 Year Old Virgin, it was amiable and Carrell is likeable.

    Didn't like the Hangover, too forced.

    Ted was just dire, watched it until some song about farts after about 10 minutes and felt like throwing something at the telly.

    I like horrors, not splatter fests or slashers or shockers, but eerie creepy ones. For me the main thing about a film is whether it entertains, and I find being unsettled entertaining.

    That's it in a nutshell my friend! :)


  • #68
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Cedrus wrote: »
    +1
    One time I went to the cinema and the idiot next to me thought he was at a match, he threw every punch that was thrown on screen while shouting "yesr boy, give it to him" and laughed loudly all the way through, it was that rollicking comedy '12 years a slave'. His wife kept wailing "oh jesus" "oh my god".
    I will never return to that cinema.

    Why? Do they live there??


  • #69
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Links234 wrote: »
    It's worth pointing out that other countries are more than capable of making blockbusters and big, action-packed 'spectacle' movies also.

    This is the movie I said I had lined up to watch soon:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QyfBfY_lLo

    Is it in cinema?


  • #70
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    Fleawuss wrote: »
    Is it in cinema?

    Earlier in the year it was on during the Japanese film festival, it's out on DVD now. It's the second part of a trilogy.


  • #71
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Links234 wrote: »
    Earlier in the year it was on during the Japanese film festival, it's out on DVD now. It's the second part of a trilogy.

    Ok. I like Japanese and samurai stuff. Anything with Kyoto in the title gets my attention. I'll hunt it down.


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  • #72
    DivingDuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭DivingDuck


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Reverse snobbery is almost as bad tbh. If it's foreign/has subtitles/not lead by a famous actor some people wouldn't even consider it.

    I wouldn't call that snobbery in and of itself.

    I dislike watching films with subtitles. Not because I think they're crap (like all other films, some are crap, some are not) but because for me a movie shouldn't require reading, and because the experience is not as enjoyable for me as watching a movie in a language I can understand. Any time I'm watching a subtitled film where a language I understand is being spoken, I find a lot of subtlety and nuance is lost in the translation for the sake of brevity of clarity. I always assume it'll be the same with a subtitled movie in a language I don't understand, and I'll miss out on that.

    I'm just not interested in subtitles in my films or illustrations in my novels; they're different modes of entertainment for me, and I don't like much overlap.

    However, "not considering" something doesn't mean writing it off. A person can acknowledge that something isn't for them but still respect its right to exist and its ability to entertain other people.


  • #73
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    timthumbni wrote: »
    The hangover caters for the age group that liked American pie and are now in their mid 30s. That and that 40 yr old Virgin are pure unadulterated crap. That's not me being a film snob. That's just reality.

    I certainly wouldn't consider The 40 Year Old Virgin rubbish, it was very funny and well written and was very well received at the time too. And still is, ten years later. I think it's great, and I know this is only my own opinion but I trust my judgement.


  • #74
    Sophie Flabby Throwback
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sophie Flabby Throwback


    The lobster was the worst movie in movie history
    And it got rave reviews from all the top film critics
    So they're all wrong :pac:

    I don't see anything wrong with analysing movies, some of them need it. Like crouching tiger. Which also had subtitles. omg !
    Some you can switch your brain off for though


  • #75
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    I do dislike people who think that because a film has subtitles it is automatically better than a Hollywood film and that non English language cinema is automatically better than what Hollywood produces.

    There is an inflated view of non English language cinema as only the really good films with subtitles get much publicity and we don't get to see all the **** films produced in France,Germany etc each year,


  • #76
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    I do dislike people who think that because a film has subtitles it is automatically better than a Hollywood film and that non English language cinema is automatically better than what Hollywood produces.

    There is an inflated view of non English language cinema as only the really good films with subtitles get much publicity and we don't get to see all the **** films produced in France,Germany etc each year,

    That's a very good point, we do in essence really only get to see the cream of the crop when it comes to foreign language movies so, obviously, they are going to appear to make some of the best movies around.


  • #77
    timecurve12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭timecurve12


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    I guess I would be a film snob. I don't watch films for entertainment, to be honest. I like movies that make me think and feel, that broaden my world view, that can be analysed, that are enigmatic. Watching things purely for entertainment is boring to me. If someone has a problem with that then I don't know what to say.


  • #78
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    I've always felt that film is the most overrated artform that has found its way into mainstream popular culture. It's enjoyable for what it is, but it doesn't hold a candle to the emotional power of a great novel; the majesty of a great piece of music; the complexity and character development of a television series that is allowed to develop almost organically, as we see in pieces like The Sopranos, Twin Peaks, The Wire.

    I've been known to compare film to riding on a rollercoaster, as opposed to a great work of literature involving scaling the lofty heights of an Alpine peak.


  • #79
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    I do dislike people who think that because a film has subtitles it is automatically better than a Hollywood film and that non English language cinema is automatically better than what Hollywood produces.

    There is an inflated view of non English language cinema as only the really good films with subtitles get much publicity and we don't get to see all the **** films produced in France,Germany etc each year,

    I don't agree with, I've seen plenty of **** foreign language movies.


  • #80
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Links234 wrote: »
    I don't agree with, I've seen plenty of **** foreign language movies.

    That's my point.

    The majority of people don't watch a lot of foreign language films yet I often hear people who after seeing a foreign language film bigging up foreign cinema as being better than Hollywood yet they only base it on the very few foreign language films they've seen which are obviously going to be very good ones.


  • #81
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    I've always felt that film is the most overrated artform that has found its way into mainstream popular culture. It's enjoyable for what it is, but it doesn't hold a candle to the emotional power of a great novel; the majesty of a great piece of music; the complexity and character development of a television series that is allowed to develop almost organically, as we see in pieces like The Sopranos, Twin Peaks, The Wire.

    Photography...

    As it came up in previous posts, have to say I never mind subtitles. In fact, they can bring a certain concentration to the screen.


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  • #82
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    I think a lot of art house/whimsical/foreign film gets a free pass on the charges of being derivative and unoriginal that mainstream Hollywood fair does.

    Is it really that different watching a film
    1) about an emotionally messed up dark haired skinny french girl with big eyebrows moping around an apartment, having a bath -this scene will be "honest" and "revealing of her inner character" because it will be shot with unflattering light and she will have pubic hair (the pubic hair is important :rolleyes: ), having sex with her skinny artistic boyfriend, going for a meal with the older man she is having an affair with (he will represent "conformity", "capitalism" and the hypocrisy of the public vs private lives of "social conservatism"), then either cutting her wrists in said bath if the film is "bleak and realistic" or her dumping both guys with a last shot of her getting in her charmingly beat up rust bucket of a car, if the film is "a study of transitory nature of relationships in modern society".
    Fin

    2) The standard Hollywood Rom-Com or Tragedy Porn

    They both provide what their respective audiences want and are equally repetitive and boring if you don't like that particular plot.

    A really good example of film snobbery is how Starship Troopers was received by most critics (disclaimer I love Starship Troopers!), the fact that it is a satire of Militarism and Hollywood Action/Proganda films was completely missed by critics (another salon review gave it 30%). Because a film can't have explosions, attractive people having sex and amazing special effects without it being "bad"


  • #83
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    FortySeven wrote: »
    The hangover. 40 year old virgin. Etc etc are surely children's films? .
    "Surely"?!? FFS

    this site might be of help to you if you are really that fucking ignorant. http://www.ifco.ie/

    Or are you acting ignorant to appear smart? because its backfiring badly...


  • #84
    FortySeven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭FortySeven


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    rubadub wrote: »
    "Surely"?!? FFS

    this site might be of help to you if you are really that fucking ignorant. http://www.ifco.ie/

    Or are you acting ignorant to appear smart? because its backfiring badly...

    There are children of all ages sir. :cool:


  • #85
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    There was a time when I thought I might become a bit of a film snob, but I realised I wasn't when some film snob criticised Molly Ringwald and I wasn't having any. Anyone who doesn't love Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club and Pretty In Pink doesn't get movies. :cool:

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • #86
    timthumbni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    bnt wrote: »
    There was a time when I thought I might become a bit of a film snob, but I realised I wasn't when some film snob criticised Molly Ringwald and I wasn't having any. Anyone who doesn't love Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club and Pretty In Pink doesn't get movies. :cool:

    Nobody puts Molly ringwald in the corner. I mentioned her in another thread before reading this. Weird. I had a major crush on her when I was a cub. I think it was the lipstick application using her ample bosums that did it.


  • #87
    timthumbni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    I've always felt that film is the most overrated artform that has found its way into mainstream popular culture. It's enjoyable for what it is, but it doesn't hold a candle to the emotional power of a great novel; the majesty of a great piece of music; the complexity and character development of a television series that is allowed to develop almost organically, as we see in pieces like The Sopranos, Twin Peaks, The Wire.

    I've been known to compare film to riding on a rollercoaster, as opposed to a great work of literature involving scaling the lofty heights of an Alpine peak.

    Aye. You are right in that a good book is almost always more satisfying than a movie. However there are some spanking good movies out there. Many of them with subtitles. I really urge anyone to give a few foreign subtitled films a chance.

    And by the way, Twin Peaks is hopefully starting again next year. I really hope that Audrey is still in it. Like myself she may have aged like a poorly corked bottle of red. I hope not.


  • #88
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    I'm not a movie snob, but I hate the Hangover movies.

    I strongly censor my movie and music preferences, there was a time when I didn't at all but... I find it just works better this way. People seem to think that they can tell deep things about a person based on their music likes which I think is all cold-reading nonsense like astrology, also associating with particular cultures.


  • #89
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I suppose I'm a bit of a film snob I suppose, if maybe from more of a technical aspect than an artistic one, although the two intertwine a bit.

    I enjoy watching a well made film, doesn't matter how many or few explosions and tits are in it.

    In some ways this is an example of how I analyse a movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3rAEzU1f4


  • #90
    timthumbni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    paleoperson wrote: »
    I'm not a movie snob, but I hate the Hangover movies.

    I strongly censor my movie and music preferences, there was a time when I didn't at all but... I find it just works better this way. People seem to think that they can tell deep things about a person based on their music likes which I think is all cold-reading nonsense like astrology, also associating with particular cultures.

    The hangover is watchable once but when you consider it afterwards it is in fact a complete piece of manure. Serves its audience well (low iq Americans) and my partner likes it. She also likes 24 and homeland though so I use her as a litmus test on media. If she's into it you can guarantee its a load of crap. Lol.


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  • #91
    timthumbni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    No, I'll give any movie a chance ........ I actually like The Hangover movies!!!"
    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I suppose I'm a bit of a film snob I suppose, if maybe from more of a technical aspect than an artistic one, although the two intertwine a bit.

    I enjoy watching a well made film, doesn't matter how many or few explosions and tits are in it.

    In some ways this is an example of how I analyse a movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3rAEzU1f4

    Chariots of Fire is a great film. More so when you consider that it was based on real life characters. That wee Scotsman Presbyterian actually did die in China.

    It really hit home to me too as the DUP religious nut jobs used to close up kids play parks on a Sunday. It was a day of rest after all........


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