Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 03:43PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

We also have to agree that right at this time we don't have the players the likes of Kilkenny , Clare , Galway or Tipp have ...our underage record is shocking ...and be it Club or County any team that has underage success more often than not get senior winning teams out of it ...nobody is saying we have mushrooms any more ...by picking that team I am just saying I believe in these players and we do have some more very good young players coming along ...what we need is to start winning underage trophys again ...going back to the panel picked I am sure it will change before championship time fellas will come and go...I am happy enough with that panel ...with respects I would replace , Paul Haughney, Brian Lawton, Stephen Moylan and Brian Moylan...with Alan Dennehy, Pa O Callaghan , Jamie Coughlan and to give one young player experience Chris O Leary....

But where are the young players added
Only around five here
And I agree with parts of what you say but cork aren't even trying to go with youth there going with the same panel as before really and look at all the finals we lost

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 03:44PM

Just in case anyone thinks views are harsh , I must repeat this is only on field performance related but purely and soley on the field of play and I strongly suggest people read the Pages 244 to page 250 in Denis Walsh excellent book called hurling the revolution years and there's some excellent reading which shows kk post math mind-set after the galway defeat in 2001 in which dj Carey said was a watershed for cody in he picked Andy comford concussed the Tuesday in training, McCoy was injured, Barry like wise,dj carey said he himself was injured with John power but cody picked all the players over fitter lads and carey said in the book cody was soft at mind but cody blamed himself for that performance but never ever would it happens again.
It didn't either.

Flynn kk trainer words from the book page 249 are exactly
As follows

I suppose there are players who went by the wayside and a lot of people jaws would have been dropping on account of it, but there's a time when things have to move on. In some cases it wasn't a total loss of form, but there comes a time when you have to wield the axe.
Brian is very good at seeing a player in decline.
It's a tough call, because you're talking about players that have been loyal to you and that you had a good relationship with in a lot of cases, but you just have to say, okay right this is it.
You go on for another year with this player but at the end of the day you could be sorry. ")

Flynn quote as in the book.
So is that harsh, no one in kk thinks so it's just there mind-set in tough decisions have to be made.

The book mentioned Affection isn't something there in cody relationship with the squad Denis Walsh said, he says cody is serious minded fella carrying out serious business in a hard headed fashion.

Cody never flinched despite up roar and calls to Kilkenny radio the book mentioned over Carter being dropped and then Mcevoy leaving.

Cody simply is ruthless. It was tough for cody then as he hadn't the legacy he has now.
If cody dropped five next year team, no body in kk would question cody and correctly so as he's record means you have to trust him.
The next managment of any team that have not won an all ireland but with same panel for a while will have no doubt have to drop a few of the panel and unfortunately they don't have success behind them so some will question it but like cody done as the book said they have to brazen it out.

There's an argument that kk always had players coming through but still cody still developed them and got another increase in performance and Cork to be fair have young hurlers coming through, good young hurlers so the earlier they're brought in it speeds up development.
You need expirence with them but some of the panel could be dropped.
Warren gatland had to drop one of the greatest ever rubgy players in Brian o Driscoll on performance alone and it proved to be correct.
He took the emotion out of it and correctly on form dropped o driscoll and was fully vindicated on performance.

David corkery gave a brilliant piece where he said last year he liked and hugely admired Ian keatley and would love him to be munster out half to win a European cup but said he just felt on performance he's isn't what they require to win a European cup in they need a better out half but said he was excellent and would always be in the pro 12 but as the years proved munster needed something different.
My point is like corkery is some players here in no one can doubt there commitment and services to cork training etc and they will be always outstanding for club but just like cody in kk you have to say on occasion the performance is not at the level we want to win an all ireland and people seem to say ah give these lads another chance but as sean said here it totally unfair for a player giving he's all just like the others but consistently gets over looked and never gets a chance for cork yet that side of the coin is never looked at imo.
To beat kk cork have to start thinking like kk.
You see cork ladies football team dropping players all the time.
You will see jack o connor if he gets the senior job with kerry he'll bring most of he's minor and under twenty one panel to senior but he won't bring on players based on sentiment of there were always with him from minor upwards he'll only bring in those that he feels can play senior.

The next crucial call for cork managment is captain.
It surely has to be Harnedy with Ellis as vice captain.

A reasonable questions in has this panel really moved on from last year
Just my opinion but I don't see much change and it was not good enough the past four years what has suddenly changed
Yes a core of the panel should stay but way more players should have been looked at

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 04:14PM

N20 wrote: »

Thats a bit of a rout, although elements of truth in it

Positivity isnt your thing Orizio

Jesus we have to hope Kingston et al might make a difference and lift the ship

I agree in hopefully Kingston will make a difference
I always feel realism and negative views are mixed up in my opinion being realistic isn't a person being negative all the time it's just calling it as it is
If there's a lot of negative things and unfortunately a pundit is honest yet it seems like he's negative all the time but imo it's wrong in there's little postive to say so is he better off saying things are great when there not and months down the line it being shown as way off

Surely cork football thought us there the past two years that honesty is only way forward as when people said major problem in the team and style game on game it was said ah things aren't bad yet we got clear does of realism v kerry and with respect a poor Kildare
The view with dualism was don't critics give it time
We had no proper team coach in all were doing a bit and the view was ah judge in the league, the league came and it was wait til championship
Championship came and it was too late to change with respect
Yes it's early yet but it's reasonable to have concerns with management perception of players by who was recalled and also by those over looked imo
Im sure if the team was positive he'd say it

Kk don't do negativity or positive views to be honest what they do in spades absoultey spades is realism if it's great it's great if it's bad it's bad
The optimistic fan says the wind will always change
The pessimistic fan the win will never change
The realistic one say adapt our sails and we'll be okay
The team picked showed no real change to be fair so tippeary and clare and Galway have beaten them in big games before the real logic would say going with the same won't work

CORKDOUBLE · 30-10-2015 04:26PM

Alan Dennehy , Shane O Keeffe , Luke Meade , Dayne Lee , Anthony Spillane , are players that can still be involved ...as regards young Shane Kingston he has had a very serious injury is a dual player again this year in Harty and Corn Ui Mhuiri ...lets give him a chance with u21 next year and there are others from the last few minor teams that have potential but lets give them time to develop at u21 first ...

CORKDOUBLE · 30-10-2015 04:27PM

TTM I would be very interested in your opinion what is the best 15 / 18 players team there at the moment ?

big_drive · 30-10-2015 04:46PM

Weather not great for junior replay tonight. Fancy Dungourney to win it

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 04:54PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

TTM I would be very interested in your opinion what is the best 15 / 18 players team there at the moment ?

To solve any great mathematical problem the first think you do is you break it up in to segments and you try different solutions before the answer is got but you try new ideas while keeping the principles and basic concepts of maths there that never will change over time

Hurling has evolved but it's similar in certain basic concepts rarely change in good corner backs bar exception don't make full back

With picking cork team next year firstly I would have large panel for the waterford crystal with core past year but a lot of new faces and every waterford crystal game I'd play youth with experience to give team chance winning in more games then try lads
Point less playing new team if beaten ist game your out
Follow Dublin football plan in last year o Byrnes cup bringing in likes Fenton with expirence with him

Example play young centre back but expirence wing back with him or expirence centre back two new wing back
One midfield experience one youth

To pick the exact team for next year certainly wouldn't be your team as we know it won't work as past proved and pick team start tipp I wouldn't pick yet in have see how young lads shape up but cashman Barry Twomey Murphy black Rock and o keoffe if available Anthony Spillane colm Barry john Cronin Kevin o Neill gunning if available jack sheehan cunningjham would been called up like flynn and dennehy and Walsh and nagle

That's around thirteen and Lee and meade if doing Fitzgibbon cup fair enough watch them
I would have dropped farell as while I stood up him last two years and said deserved chances club form wasn't good so he had he's time
If he plays himself back on the panel fair enough

Ryan even though he didn't get game time at full I'd drop with Brian sullivan who was and Moylan Darren mccarthy and Brian Murphy is retired and I wouldn't recalled mccarthy or haughey so there is plenty room have new panel forty or so with new faces
Panel forty would be for waterford crystal and challenges matches in every week I'd have challenge matches organised and in January I'd have a new panel revised for the league
I would also play a sweeper and posession game and that's why luke meade would be there as he's hurling and pace and best forward imo cork play sweeper and kelly was light for clare as was lynch but in the right system meade would work

At least at the very least bringing in youth shows a willingness to change and freshen up the panel

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 05:02PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Alan Dennehy , Shane O Keeffe , Luke Meade , Dayne Lee , Anthony Spillane , are players that can still be involved ...as regards young Shane Kingston he has had a very serious injury is a dual player again this year in Harty and Corn Ui Mhuiri ...lets give him a chance with u21 next year and there are others from the last few minor teams that have potential but lets give them time to develop at u21 first ...

I never mentioned Kingston and he's doing the leaving and recovery from injury he needs time and imo he's going to be great but similar to lehane etc so we don't need him now

Yes you would hope they would be but it's great over used cliché as limerick management used last year with league panel every player can play himself on the panel even though didn't make the ist cut then when it's clear the ist panel named is ist real sign management perception and I think haughey and mccarthy will be there for the league
Yes some are hurling with colledge but I'd be trying comprise with them trying get some them playing with cork now as cork needs to build

Also cork shouldn't as Kingston will do wait til December start collective training as there is new management in place so the rule states over there cork can actually training now
And imo cork are in no position to wait as they have huge ground to make up

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 05:04PM

big_drive wrote: »

Weather not great for junior replay tonight. Fancy Dungourney to win it

I would agree Dungourney may as favourite usually do the business the second day but cloughduv young lads should benefit from the ist day

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 05:11PM

Producer Ben wrote: »

I think Ellis showed v Galway he's not up to centre back. I'd love to see Eoin Cadogan there but in his footballing role id have Joyce instead.

It was great news cadogan stayed football where he's needed more and he's not inter county hurler centre back as tippeary proved in munster four years ago and Galway proved in the all ireland semi final imo

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 05:18PM

Figsy32 wrote: »

Has Spillane not been playing out the field for Castlelyons the last few years? Good hurler and has the sort of physicality we're lacking in the team but I would have thought Joyce is the man for full back if he gets back to where he was before the injury. Has both the physicality and the hurling for there.

Half back line is a very very average line for us. Plenty decent hurlers but nobody of real quality and to get anywhere in an All-Ireland series you need a strong half back line.

We need a partner for Kearney in midfield.

Besides Seamie all our forwards are very samey. Nice wrists hurlers but no real cut or bite. We badly need a presence and a goal threat on the edge of the square.

Our young lads seem extremely lightweight when compared to the likes of TDB and Gleeson in Waterford or James Barry in Tipp who'd all be of a similar age to Cormac Murphy, Luke Meade etc. That's something that badly needs rectifying.

Colm has played half forward for he's club since injury and cork intermediate team year win all ireland and was superb winning ball but in trouble v Galway all ireland intermediate final buckley showed good decision by putting him back to centre back and cork won the game due to colm Barry and Spillane half back dominating

He's fine full back but needs games
Started under twenty one full back v tipp as minor but injured early on
He last year only full back cork club scene to absoultey dominated michael cussen in sars v ucc ist game
He was looking good two years ago making cork ist challenge games season v tipp behind closed doors in morris park but injury of broken nose in challenge with Jason ford's that was accident he then missed games

He has bad luck with injuries but last year tried newer type treatment that seems to work
He if injury free has inter county written all over him at half forward half back or full
Cork need to settle a position for him and stick with it
Has hunger want and drive within exactly what cork needs

CORKDOUBLE · 30-10-2015 09:01PM

Football panel I would like to see ...

Ken O Halloran, Ryan Price , Michael Martin.

Michael Sheilds, Eoin Cadogan, Noel Galvin, Stephen Cronin, Alan Cronin, Kevin Crowley, Kevin Flahive, Conor Dorman, Kevin O Driscoll, Brian O Driscoll, Sean White, James loughrey, Thomas Clancy , Tom Clancy.

Alan O Connor, Ruairi Deane, Ian Maguire, Michael O Laoire, Sean Kiely, Sean Dineen , Peter Kelleher.

Fintan Goold, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Paddy Kelly, Donncha O Connor, Colm O Neill, Brian Hurley, Michael Hurley, Barry O Driscoll, Mark Collins, Cathal Vaughan, Mark Sugrue, Luke Connolly, Dan McEoin, Donal Og Hodnett John O Rourke and Daniel Dineen.
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thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 11:18PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Football panel I would like to see ...

Ken O Halloran, Ryan Price , Michael Martin.

Michael Sheilds, Eoin Cadogan, Noel Galvin, Stephen Cronin, Alan Cronin, Kevin Crowley, Kevin Flahive, Conor Dorman, Kevin O Driscoll, Brian O Driscoll, Sean White, James loughrey, Thomas Clancy , Tom Clancy.

Alan O Connor, Ruairi Deane, Ian Maguire, Michael O Laoire, Sean Kiely, Sean Dineen , Peter Kelleher.

Fintan Goold, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Paddy Kelly, Donncha O Connor, Colm O Neill, Brian Hurley, Michael Hurley, Barry O Driscoll, Mark Collins, Cathal Vaughan, Mark Sugrue, Luke Connolly, Dan McEoin, Donal Og Hodnett John O Rourke and Daniel Dineen.
]

A good panel that I would agree with in large and that would be good however fintan gould while most talented under age star and under twenty one player year years ago and through no fault of he's own in was made jack all trades master of none unfortunately imo has to be dropped as yes league he'll be good but as proven year after year really big games v kerry in championship not league and against Dublin Donegal mayo etc he isn't what is required imo and Alan o connor a terrific servant owes cork nothing and hopefully he'll recover injury and ccb help him any way he needs imo unfortunately should not been recalled as replay v kerry proved and imo isn't suited pace dynamo modern game and Cork need to develop younger midfield players
Cork need to build for the future and have enough expirence there don't need o connor

Colm tucker o brien I'd have a look at as he's versatile with great reading of the game

wackokid · 30-10-2015 11:37PM

Brilliant stuff from TTM as usual

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 11:44PM

Congratulations to Dungourney
Anyone at the match for a report?

thinkstoomuch1 · 30-10-2015 11:45PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Football panel I would like to see ...

Ken O Halloran, Ryan Price , Michael Martin.

Michael Sheilds, Eoin Cadogan, Noel Galvin, Stephen Cronin, Alan Cronin, Kevin Crowley, Kevin Flahive, Conor Dorman, Kevin O Driscoll, Brian O Driscoll, Sean White, James loughrey, Thomas Clancy , Tom Clancy.

Alan O Connor, Ruairi Deane, Ian Maguire, Michael O Laoire, Sean Kiely, Sean Dineen , Peter Kelleher.

Fintan Goold, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Paddy Kelly, Donncha O Connor, Colm O Neill, Brian Hurley, Michael Hurley, Barry O Driscoll, Mark Collins, Cathal Vaughan, Mark Sugrue, Luke Connolly, Dan McEoin, Donal Og Hodnett John O Rourke and Daniel Dineen.
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Who would you have as captain
Imo cadogan would be good

CORKDOUBLE · 31-10-2015 12:24AM

Not sure re captain I think Sheilds is a good leader but maybe Cads would be a good captain...for a change .

It makes sense · 31-10-2015 03:08AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Congratulations to Dungourney
Anyone at the match for a report?

TTM was at match dungourney blew Cloughduv away from start to finish totally different match from last week Duns hungry hooking blocking breaking the tackle Niall Motherway excellent at centre abley assisted by James McCarthy at midfield Ryan Denny excellent work rate free taking and all round display up front Jack griffin and Shane Hegarty brilliant forCloughduv nobody stood out today Joe Ryan got no ball and Clougduv just had no answer tonight

slingerz · 31-10-2015 06:02PM

It makes sense wrote: »

TTM was at match dungourney blew Cloughduv away from start to finish totally different match from last week Duns hungry hooking blocking breaking the tackle Niall Motherway excellent at centre abley assisted by James McCarthy at midfield Ryan Denny excellent work rate free taking and all round display up front Jack griffin and Shane Hegarty brilliant forCloughduv nobody stood out today Joe Ryan got no ball and Clougduv just had no answer tonight

Conditions didn't suit Cloughduv as they have a lot of minors playing but regardless Dungourney were the much stronger team.

If Cloughduv can develop those young players and bring a few more through then coupled with the experience of this year they should be looking at getting back to this level again

Horse84 · 01-11-2015 12:58PM

Oopsy!!

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/shock-as-30m-pirc-u-chaoimh-grant-facing-eu-probe-34158532.html

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-11-2015 04:10PM

Horse84 wrote: »

Oopsy!!

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/shock-as-30m-pirc-u-chaoimh-grant-facing-eu-probe-34158532.html

No surprise absoultey none as I have said since the beginning and indeed week ago there would and always was going to be a drama with this but I'm surprised it's Europe have to pull the probe and in a way I'm glad as Europe won't back down and correctly so don't give any heed to the ccb or care who the secretary is

I'm delighted absoultey delighted tbh this is being reviewed as it's absoultey crazy absoultey imo stadium cost was allowed seventy million and centre excellent is centre mediocrity when you see the absoultey state of the art facilities kerry building and all credit due to kerry who magnificent innovative fundraising has almost all money raised and only weeks ago London fund raising came in with bolt and course mcclroy giving items to the auction and Cork with so many ex pats abroad should went down that road but no want government pay when country is on its knees

This stadium has to be scaled down or if want build it then fundraising like kerry
The club draw there were recently saying only week ago that unimpressed by clubs response and we'll in fairness ccb can't blame anyone but themselves as people days supporting club draw clear as day is not like before and with good reason in they neglected under age for years we have no success on field and huge problem in controversy after controversy this year hardly great for marketing to sell tickets for there club draw

This look imo poor reflection on ccb but also irish government for going ahead when obviously there's issues

There is concern over the costs also and even ger lane said was sensitive issues with it that couldn't be discussed at previous ccb meeting

If the funding is not given there's going to be huge problem for the ccb and if so it won't happen but like Antrim are doing at present at there next convention a motion for a new board should be set
The old board if pairc fails have to take responsibility

Again people say there was change at ccb level this year no there wasn't as if the power was equal this stadium at this price would never ever been even approved
It's way over priced

I think cork need a new stadium absoultey but I'm glad the cost is being questioned as that cost in this current climate is not reasonable
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest there is a drama with this and grant was way too much

Superb reporting again from John greene the same reporter who first broke the sciath na scoil controversy over where games are played with the ccb just months ago

CORKDOUBLE · 01-11-2015 09:44PM

Well it looks like the INDO got there story all wrong ....you would wonder sometimes how some journalists get paid ...it seems to be any story and no problem to print be it right or wrong.

sean mac · 01-11-2015 09:51PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Well it looks like the INDO got there story all wrong ....you would wonder sometimes how some journalists get paid ...it seems to be any story and no problem to print be it right or wrong.

How do you reckin they got it wrong CD? this is john greene the sports editor in fairness and the statement from the bunker didn't refute the article? the only man to claim any issues was simon coveney and he wasn't able to point out any inaccuracies either? while I have no doubt simon is passionate to have a rugby world cup game in cork so he can invite all his ex clongowes buddies I would be more inclined to go with the indo on this until I hear otherwise, noticeable it took almost 16/17 hours since the story broke last night for the bunker to come up with a very short statement

zetecescort · 01-11-2015 09:52PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Well it looks like the INDO got there story all wrong ....you would wonder sometimes how some journalists get paid ...it seems to be any story and no problem to print be it right or wrong.

really? wouldn't believe a word the CCB say in defence of this mess.

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-11-2015 10:31PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Well it looks like the INDO got there story all wrong ....you would wonder sometimes how some journalists get paid ...it seems to be any story and no problem to print be it right or wrong.

This is the same yes the same the very very very same journalist that broke the school controversy over playing such that the school eventually won
He's the same journalist that wrote a awesome piece on the Billy Walsh affair that brought balance but really showed Walsh treatment be wrong
This was also front page of there sports supplement
He doesn't just go with a story to be fair.
He's imo well respected.
No doubt and wait for it the independent will be probably accused of agenda against cork over breaking school story the mac sweeny articles on previous cork managment but last year and this year and indeed one of sweeny best was the last time he critsed ccb in he's own words he said ccb was like panto dames at Xmas the gift that just keep giving

Now another story after a year of stories in fairness with poor reflection on the ccb so in all fairness greene has given us no reason to doubt him
The ccb statement is slightly improved from its usal stance say nothing at all it will blow over now all credit due to them realise there dealing with a completely different prospect with Europe who couldn't give a monkey regard ccb and it's stadium or gaa in general when all they care about is balance sheets and coherent financial decisions and correctly so they had to say something
Hardly real confidence in statement imo in short and sweet all about the process

The article posted by horse doesn't give all the article in the paper in the paper it says while croke park aren't getting involved senior croke park officials met government over this

There's serious concerns even before today in relation to the cost benefit and such that department of tourism and sport while having no direct part in the process for the funding raised concerns earlier in the year the article reported

Gone gone and thanks be to God are the days of building build build and fork out money and years years later country tries repay the debt in when everything is questioned by Europe and in this case correctly so

How ironic again when the kerry gaa recently announced more and almost completely funded centre of excellence fund raiser two weeks ago from London and America from bolt and mcclroy donating items for auction and kerry again a smooth process and Cork should be innovative and get ex cork pats abroad with money to invest but you see won't happen as ccb must control everything

Kilkenny announce gaa season ticket sale for tomorrow with club and county option for 200 but the ccb haven't club option
And the replay in the cork county final tickets couldn't be reduced as everything is in line with the pairc in all funding for there gets Precedent but while some prawn sandwich brigasap fans aRoy keane would say would love new stadium and all the frills if this is not thought out property there's huge fears cork gaa could be paying cost stadium many years so down the line the preparation of all cork team and when we need more ptich to play on as Derek kavanagh said and we compared to Dublin have too low gdo will all imo be at risk of being affected down the line

If as the article says and a year delay happens imo it's going to increase cost and pairc loose anticipated revenue so hopefully a review and scale down of the stadium happens
Yes cork needs a new stadium but not at the cost it's been priced imo more so in the current climate
The article said it submitted these claims to the ccb last night in the article by email asking questions related to the funding but got no reply
The ccb statement hardly answers any questions to be fair
In the Examiner weeks ago at a ccb meeting it was said when question were asked about the pairc the answer was it said was the board replied sensitive issues that couldn't be talked of at this moment in time
Naturally such short statement where no clarity is really given its natural concerns imo arises.I doubt greene just ran with a story for the sake of it.

thinkstoomuch1 · 01-11-2015 10:53PM

sean mac wrote: »

How do you reckin they got it wrong CD? this is john greene the sports editor in fairness and the statement from the bunker didn't refute the article? the only man to claim any issues was simon coveney and he wasn't able to point out any inaccuracies either? while I have no doubt simon is passionate to have a rugby world cup game in cork so he can invite all his ex clongowes buddies I would be more inclined to go with the indo on this until I hear otherwise, noticeable it took almost 16/17 hours since the story broke last night for the bunker to come up with a very short statement

Also what is going to be interesting is the blame game if this doesn't go as planned
Naturally as labour and fine gael supporter the funding there going to say all is well but imo with out getting side tracked in to a political debate as politics doesn't interest me a party that approved huge funding is not going to back tracked with a spring election coming up and Cork having huge part of the electorate

What will be fascinating is if this does not go as planned who blames who as don't be surprised if government say only going on information ccb have give them as they won't with an election looming want to take responsibility for it and board won't want to either so they can say well the government approved it

This if not sorted could get interesting for both the government and ccb for allowing stadium be knocked with out everything been guaranteed

Don't be shocked if the ireland needs rubgy world cup country and all rest on hand cork now card is played as they will make it imo to be ireland issue than just cork when wait for views to change when many in cork opposed rule forty two and even didn't want it debated but now it is oh we need rubgy world cup all cause they want a stadium
Also if ireland gets the world cup that is eight years away how will they generate cost revenue between now and then when probably only likely one game per year fill out the stadium as other munster stadium need there quotes of games also and Cork said that concerts would pay for it
Concerts aren't sustainable realistic imo revenue generating option on consistent basis and are imo more aspirational view then a realistic view in the cost effective planning for the pairc

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-11-2015 10:59AM

Collins from the haven meant to be joining the minor football management
Senior selector meant to be announced this week and look like a city one

thinkstoomuch1 · 02-11-2015 11:00AM

Glen have play Ballygunner sunday
Huge game for them
Winning a munster is probably beyond them this year but getting to a final would be a huge achievement for them

Hurleratheart · 02-11-2015 03:27PM

Harty rolls around again on wensday

Huge game in caher for Middleton - heard they arent going very well so o hope they can pull it out of bag - hopefully send. A warning shot to ASR - be very disapointing if they dont - didnt hear if manley is available for them or not - would be addition if so

I think Rochestown will get over youghal as dalton still out - rochestown still don't have Kingston but should have to much for youghal I feel

Do or die for charlville v AG Both have to win another loss would put them out - charlville might have edge as AG. Very young team

Hammies have to win as well but up against dela sall who beat Blackwater by 7 points last day

Best of luck to all cork teams

Hope weather holds up

zetecescort · 02-11-2015 08:59PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Glen have play Ballygunner sunday
Huge game for them
Winning a munster is probably beyond them this year but getting to a final would be a huge achievement for them

I guess pitches are getting bad now but its a pity this isn't a double header with Nemo away to the Waterford champions this weekend too

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