Cork GAA Discussion Thread

thinkstoomuch1

Cloughduv put up a huge battle with Dungourney and were well on the way up being a few points up but they were caught in the end.
Joe Ryan was brilliant as he got a goal,and could have another one, he's time with cork under age has helped him and he played well and he went to dls macroom a football school but looked good, and if he was hurling at a higher level would probably be more on the cork radar at under age.

Over age for minor but he is a good hurler.

Dungourney with dennehy mother way and mccarthy were good but before this game i raised questions about the strength of East cork junior in its hard to read too much in to there results in they had to be kept in perspective.

My question was the east cork hurling championship, how accurate it was and the east cork teams in this championship down the years haven't done well bar last year with castle matyr who fully deserved to win the county in cork but we're well beaten in a munster final in cork last year when truth be told could they been conceded seven rather than five goals that day and were unfortunately miles of the pace in munster where's dripsey Grenagh etc done well in recent times in winning munster or being competitive so mid cork hurling is stronger it seems at junior level.

Dungourney showed great mettle to come back and this is probably the ist real test they had all year so it should bring them on more.

Grainger from ucc with cloughduv and is a good manager and while some may say it was poor call you would admire he's brave courageous decision to take off main free taker towards the end of this game.

Yes they missed an easy free in the end but grainger attuide seem to be scoring frees are not just good enough when while player was excellent from frees he's general play he was being beaten by he's man for balls in it just was one of those games where the ball didn't fall for him and he's in the past and will again have better games but tonight he was not winning a lot of ball so on performance he was subbed and hopefully grainger attuide will be evident with cork senior hurling when scoring from frees doesn't justify staying on when some one else can add possibly more to a performance from play.
The subs he made all played well while they were on.

And cloughduv wouldn't have other free taker but they still took of there free taker but Cork senior hurling do have lots of options from frees.I would not be surprised if that player plays a fine game the next day as it can happen in a game some days it works other games it doesn't.

Congratulations to charville they absoultey dominated dripsey who to be fair never gave up and fought but charville matched there intensity and once it was done, the superior pace, dynamic movement, beautiful poise of hurling and better young individual hurlers there was only going to be one winner.

Finn and the rest of the charville management done an outstanding job with the panel. This is good for cork for different teams hopefully in time at different grades in cork will benefit from young Cian Collins the keeper and jack Barry still playing charville cbs, casey and the outstanding Fitzgibbon who will be cork under twenty one in time and possibly senior, Danny flynn, James o brien in they have fine hurlers coming through.
Alan o connor used he's expirence well also.

Andrew cagney got a few goals and Fitzgibbon got a goal and some lovely points and Alan dennehy was brilliant and while he started slow with sullivan he grew in to it and had a fine game.

Charville were clinical throughout but the hugely impressive thing was they when they went ahead didn't go through the motions but showed huge intent and ruthless execution to take goals when they were on and they will in time in a few years be senior imo.
They got five goals and were like kk when the goals were on they didn't soft score for point they went for goals every time. You would have to admire there intent.

The minor this year got to a final and lost by a point so the talent of youth is coming through.
Dripsey while it's no comfort should keep in mind this season was a huge success for them not to be relegated and many other teams in cork would struggle to stay with charville.
Charville have dominated every team bar loosing by a point one game in the league and championship this year, so there consistently excellent.

I am Delighted they won over last year and with there young team and hopefully Peter finn the coach will stay with them as there's more way more in this team.
I feel sorry for dripsey but they never stopped giving up but they just met a superior team.
Charville had a job to do tonight and they done it.
Charville ist touch and movement but always playing the ball to a man that could win posession was excellent also and they played at pace and moved the ball fast but rarely wasted position.
The only thing is this team deserved there own day and it should have been played on the Sunday like originally planned and not moved over the draw in the football to tonight.

Finn is the second limerick man to taste success with a cork club in recent weeks as dave Moriarty had success with the glen weeks ago.
Many cork coaches help limerick get success so it's only fair the limerick ones get equal recognition when they do well in cork also.

It makes sense

Producer Ben wrote: »

Draw.

Charleville demolished Dripsey 5-24 1-10.

Thought Charleville would win well and they did fairs due Dripsey never stopped trying but just out of their depth against a classy Charleville they will give intermediate a good rattle next year. Junior game was a great end to end and a great finish thought Joe Ryan caused endless problems for the Duns which they will have to deal with in the replay, Dungourney' s young players stood up well though griffin, hegarty, McCarthy, Denny all played their part should be a cracking replay.

slingerz

Joe Ryan would have been a cork minor footballer this year and is involved with the u21 panel at the moment as well. Bobby Ryan former tipp player is his uncle. Took off main free taker ultimately cost them the game. That along with a lack of cynicism to kill the game off. Cloughduv had 5 minors on the field and only 1 overage for minor next year

Producer Ben

I agree Joe Ryan had a fine game. I'd have no issue with taking Jerry Lucey off, besides the frees he hadn't done a thing all evening. The only issue I'd have is that Colm Ryan who was then on the field, should have taken that last free, the most reliable free taker on the field at the time.

thinkstoomuch1

slingerz wrote: »

Joe Ryan would have been a cork minor footballer this year and is involved with the u21 panel at the moment as well. Bobby Ryan former tipp player is his uncle. Took off main free taker ultimately cost them the game. That along with a lack of cynicism to kill the game off. Cloughduv had 5 minors on the field and only 1 overage for minor next year

Bobby was a great player and indeed was a pundit cork Galway all ireland hurling final in 1990.
Clifford on the cork under seventeen hurling all ireland winning team this year is another player with potential.


I can see your point and fair enough you could say it was a free to have a free taker but most will agree the player taken off wasn't winning ball from play and they were right to make changes. Hurling is hurling you can't imo have a player there just for frees, many other aspects of a game.
If anything can be learned it is to have a second free taker and a role Ryan could more than fill imo.
One missed free didn't cost them the game it was the inability to close out a lead and lack of experience but I wouldn't fault them as it's new team with lots of youth and only recently went to minor grade two hurling.
Many people wouldn't have given them much hope in the game and indeed in the start of the championship itself they were written off.

Mid cork is strong at this level.
Dungourney may well the replay as favourite tend to do but cloughduv certainly have showed potential and if not this year will challenge strongly for this the next few years.

commonsense.

slingerz wrote:

Joe Ryan would have been a cork minor footballer this year and is involved with the u21 panel at the moment as well. Bobby Ryan former tipp player is his uncle. Took off main free taker ultimately cost them the game. That along with a lack of cynicism to kill the game off. Cloughduv had 5 minors on the field and only 1 overage for minor next year

If he's Bobbys nephew he didn't lick it off a stone. Bobby far from one of the best Tipp players of that era but he had determination and guts in spades. Made up for his lack of some of the more subtle skills.
Looks like a mistake all right to take off free taker. In a game that tight even one more point would have seen them over the line. In the modern game a reliable free taker is invaluable. The lack of cynicism to kill off the game directly linked to Clougduvs youth and inexperience. That sort of think comes with age.

Andre 3000

Junior A Football Championship Final Bandon 3-11 Iveleary 2-9 FT.

I found it incredibly hard to believe Bandon's first team was only Junior A (Intermediate next year). For a place so bloody big it's a bad showing but fair play to them, hope they push on now. In comparison to their much smaller neighbours Newcestown and Velley Rovers they're way behind.

Producer Ben

Sugrue was top class and won the battle v Vaughan. Will he be worth a look next year for Cork?

zetecescort

Nemo 1 up with 5 min left

zetecescort

Nemo win by 2

CORKDOUBLE

Paudie Kissane will not be involved with the Cork Minors next year according to Peader Healy he will be with the seniors 100%....very good interview by him on todays redfm...

big_drive

Producer Ben wrote: »

Draw.

Charleville demolished Dripsey 5-24 1-10.

It's hard to understand how Dripsey beat the likes of Kildorrey and Aghada along the way to the final given how obviously limited they are.

big_drive

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Draws last night for u21 and minor ...tough draws all round but very tough for our under age hurling teams we are where we are at Minor and u21 in Munster so no match is easy for us next year as we are rated no5 in the province at the moment ...have we talent i think we have how about this for an u21 team....
Patrick Collins
Michael McSweeney Kieran Histon Darren Browne
Mark Coleman Conor Twomey Niall Cashman
David Noonan Darragh Fitzgibbon
Shane Kingston Kevin O Neill Trevour Horgan
Anthony Spillane Chris O Leary Luke Meade.....

subs...Declan Dalton, Cian Walsh, Ciaran Cormack, Stephen Murphy, Conor Cahalane , Rickard Cahalane, Dillon Cahill, Robbie Flynn, Tim O Mahony, Dayne Lee, Darren Casey , Killan O Connor.......No Michael Cahalane or Pa O Callaghan which is just a huge pity both these players had the X factor....

Good enough team. What about Sean O'Donoghue who was playing on this years team? He still has 2 years left at this grade

Also I'm fairly sure Dillon Cahill is overage for 2016

ciarriaithuaidh

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Paudie Kissane will not be involved with the Cork Minors next year according to Peader Healy he will be with the seniors 100%....very good interview by him on todays redfm...

Of course, as I was thinking, you just cannot be involved with 2 serious inter-county setups simultaneously.

thinkstoomuch1

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Of course, as I was thinking, you just cannot be involved with 2 serious inter-county setups simultaneously.

You made a correct call credit due.
I still think it could have been possible when only two years ago Paul Kinnerk proved with two teams that win an all ireland when he had roles with the two different teams
Probably kissane is not going to retire from club football and maybe something had to give.

thinkstoomuch1

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Junior A Football Championship Final Bandon 3-11 Iveleary 2-9 FT.

I found it incredibly hard to believe Bandon's first team was only Junior A (Intermediate next year). For a place so bloody big it's a bad showing but fair play to them, hope they push on now. In comparison to their much smaller neighbours Newcestown and Velley Rovers they're way behind.

You make great points but this isn't new to cork gaa that smaller parish or village club out perform bigger resources of other clubs in clyda out perform there resources while mallow always don't perform to the outstanding talent they have but this year intermediate team with good coach showed progress and like milford and Newtownshandrum in hurling for years were winning when small club like big club charville didn't but due to good coaching and great under age work charville have turned the corner and are where they deserve to be


Ballyhea are small parish but they always get everything out of them
Ballincollig were another by there own admission suffered big town syndrome but senior football last year turned the corner from hard work and under age

Bandon have a huge talent Base but haven't always used it
Some big club under standable so probably felt didn't have work as hard as other as small club simply work hard to get success where big club in past probably hadn't same fear so never same drive within
Thankfully though Fermoy charville Ballincollig etc realise like the glen in hurling only hard work and working at development youth will get success
Some times big places can be division in terms of the vision and plans for the future where it's easier for smaller club be more united

There's imo a place in gaa for all clubs big or small but it's in interest of cork gaa that big town like Ballincollig Fermoy bandon midelton in recent times have had success as they imo will increase the popularity of games in the gaa within those big places.

It's evident even in school with Hamilton in the harty they don't have the talent like midelton in terms of depth but they have always out perform where midelton with huge pick don't do well in harty and a lot that imo is down to Focus where midelton expect success to happen but Hamilton work to survive.

Hamilton would know have no choice work hard to compete where some in midelton coaching while the passion is there and interest imo i would wonder is the same focus there at harty cup.
Rochestown have a huge pick of club strong in hurling but credit due the last few years they get the best in football and hurling from there resources available.

thinkstoomuch1

big_drive wrote: »

Good enough team. What about Sean O'Donoghue who was playing on this years team? He still has 2 years left at this grade

Also I'm fairly sure Dillon Cahill is overage for 2016

Sean donughe can play both codes but like other should be choosing a code now as the dual status is over and under twenty one is as good as stage as any to start choosing a code.

thinkstoomuch1

Producer Ben wrote: »

I agree Joe Ryan had a fine game. I'd have no issue with taking Jerry Lucey off, besides the frees he hadn't done a thing all evening. The only issue I'd have is that Colm Ryan who was then on the field, should have taken that last free, the most reliable free taker on the field at the time.

I totally agree with this.

thinkstoomuch1

Congratulations to nemo I didn't mind who won but am delighted for stephen o brien and you can't begrudge the really really great tomas o se a county medal, may not have legs of the past but he has guile football intelligence hunger want, and a warrior always driving force when the need is greatest in the big days.
While at times was caught and missed point he grew when he was needed the most and led players around him and showed why kerry great choose nemo in like kerry nemo have this ability and nous to claw themselves back in to games and win games they shouldn't.

I in one way feel for haven but only one can win and today loss won't in my opinion diminish any high esteem I hold for haven or mccarthy in they have proven themselves before and always when two good team meet and managers only one will win just like kerry and Dublin.
Haven beat nemo two years ago today it was nemo turn.

Today was good in it again was quite tactical and close game and showed with stephen o brien there's outstanding young manager in cork football with huge promise and Billy Morgan said it ten years ago he was the future for nemo management and Morgan saw he's quality and having with Larry kavanagh won under twenty one three years ago, in three years senior management got two finals winning one and playing attacking football and built on kick passing but also embracing the sweeper and system imo it's great for nemo in the years ahead and indeed cork football and imo will really challenge for munster this year as this will bring them hugely and there's more in them

Now that kissane isn't going to do the minor which I'm surprised by Stephen o brien or Murray should get it.
In fairness if o brien wants it he should get it as he's modern management in every way.

Kissane is a huge loss to cork minor but hopefully it will be limited and top proven coach is in there and I don't mean Ronan McCarthy just cause he didn't get the senior
Loads of options in Murray, o brien, English, etc
As the ccb were keen on mccarthy for the senior I hope he's not put in there now.
It should be herihly choice so hopefully the ccb won't be involved.

Kerrigan was outstanding off and on the ball for two weeks running and I have critsed and with justification he's consistently at senior cork level for cork at times but he was outstanding this year for nemo and like Barry o Driscoll crucial goal but he's work on and off the ball it shows good coaching they play better and if coaches at cork senior get the best out of kerrigan could have huge role for cork.
He has the talent and attuide but just needs a game plan to suit him and consistency.

O brien showed the necessary ingredients for any manager in he's ruthless by masters is legend with nemo but he dropped him for today as played back tucker o brien again in the ist half sweeping brilliantly such that both hurley never scores from play but crucially in the second half he went more go forward approach and when masters came on he played o brien more forward and masters was better sub playing vital part in the end .
Now masters hasn't trained much over injury recently but lesser managers would still played him from the start but o brien didn't and held him in reserve.
You see o brien adapted and evolved to the challenge he was faced.

Martin like last week made brilliant save and he's improved no end from ucc this year and was huge part of the game. They defended well and the full back like last week again played well and midfield won posession particularly towards the end but throughout the game both midfield from both teams in my opinion had there moments.Nemo used a nice variation with the short kick outs and that and there defence cohesion where there blanket didn't defend by numbers just back but each had a defined role and by a well worked goal showed all the hall marks of a well coached team and corkery, kavanagh and o brien deserves credit for that.
On last week performance connolly would deserve to be looked at in the mcgrath cup. At the moment he's areas of he's game that he needs to improve but good coaching improves players skill set and healy spoke about that in he's interview. Connolly has potential.

Did any new players stand out for cork
Colm tucker o brien playing a sweeper deserves a look Imo.
Cahalane Collins all had there moments and cahalane would be good if he left the hurling but imo he's good hurler also. Fulngnati looked good but Cork aren't short half back options imo with loughrey, clancy from clon and Fermoy white, Kevin o driscoll, dorman, cahalane if he went to football.
Cork senior football just needs to find a balance at half back.

Colm tucker o brien though should be looked at as he's tough, abrasive, good reader of the game and versatile but crucially he can perfect the kick pass both long and short to good effect and he can see a pass that's on.
Deserves a mcgrath cup trial and take it from there.


As regards the question is mark sugrue cork standard.
He imo in either football or hurling just one code would deserves a look at as he was always consistent and a big games player for cork in both football and hurling in junior and intermediate and under twenty one and indeed minor.
Against kerry in he's last year he was outstanding in the big game and can play half forward or full and in munster under twenty one three years ago when cork were hammered he got vital goal close to half time such was then flattened by tipp player in that hurling game but even in football year before in munster final got around three points or more from play and like today thrives on the big occasion.
Certainly would merit a trial above others who have imo plenty of chances and just won't cut senior elite inter county.

Cork double I agree with your perception of the healy interview, i heard healy interview in i just played it now.
Healy is calm and sound quiet and softly spoken but that shouldn't hide from the fact he's good organisation and id say he can be ruthless when needed and what I hugely hugely admire is though he may be soft spoken when asked imo the question about dualism again he said and couldn't wait to say it no no no were he's words.
He's already dismissed any speculation or rumours of it reoccurring as have no doubt now that some media in gaa who will be looking for articles to write now Collins is back with clare in both codes would go on about cork doing it again as Cork are a big story.
He has ended any possible speculation before its get air borne imo.
Imo it also shows healy knows when to nip things in the bud.
He could wasted every one time and said I'll discuss with the new hurling management but no he took control of he's own set up and was not entertaining it.
That will imo give real belive this fella means business from day one.
Management of a new set up is about momentum and hitting the ground running with a panel,he's making the correct moves imo.
Like a good chess player who in he's ist five moves you can see if it's going to be a long way, you can judge a manager imo in some cases early on.

A huge huge statement of intent and none of this time wasting lark well review, we'll discuss with the players, he correctly said it won't work and he's not entertaining the idea.
He correctly said if a player wanted to leave hurling to football he'd look at it but he'd respect any decision they make in choosing hurling over football.
A simple uncomplicated answer he gave to a simple complicated issues of dualism which I was impressed by he's answer.


You can tell a lot by interview imo if you look deep enough in like the great great Australia out back trackers they can hunt by the slightest imprint of where the hunted was all because of there ability and instinct of attention to detail.
Compare interview with winning manager and does that fail you can see the difference if you look closely enough.
He spoke about elite high level environment for performance and a structure and organisations to allow and develop players and said he'll bring in young players and he's role will be working with them and there's mind-set and I think healy credit due knows he's own strength and weakness and that's good for cork.
He explained all the roles in he's back room so far.
He correctly showed no secrets in was honest to say he wants James mccarthy but he's gdo role is contract with ccb so that needs to be sorted but imo brilliantly played it by nicely saying he's hoping ccb sort it as he wants him.
He could have said nothing and waited to see if it was sorted but was risk ccb may not sort it but imo he has indirectly forced board sort it by publicly stating mccarthy job as coach is ccb permitting and due to the shambles already from clearly etc ccb can't I'll afford to do a irish boxing knock out blow to what they done to Billy Walsh by over contract issues forcing him to leave so imo healy will get he's man.
I'm impressed by healy honesty when asked about the interview process he explained it in detail how he got it.
Normally others we'd hear it's a process etc.
I must say I'm absoultey greatly encouraged so far by what healy done he's interview and he's speed in dealing with things and while there's a lot more in time to judge him on i have to give credit where due he's done everything expected of him so far and that gives me confidence.
Cork senior football has imo not false hope but real confidence to belive in the set up now.
When I talk about cork football thankfully I'm smiling, it was getting to the stage with performance it was trying to hold back the tears with some of the defeats.

I heard Kingston interview in the hurling.
It was good and what's gives me huge huge relief and comfort and makes me sleep a bit easier at night is he said the selectors are just selectors but he's finalising a s and c doctor and indeed coach in the coming week so by that I gather he means new people which is good.
He's interview was well conducted by Lisa lawlor who even though some may say she's woman, the fact is and I felt this last year when she ruthlessly asked cuthbhertt hard honest questions no imo other cork journalist did, she again asked Kingston about the process of management in who picked him, he's style of play and that she said and shows how outstanding she is in tune with the modern game by saying game plans are crucial to success.

Kingston said every team would need a different approach and he seemed imo to hints while he's open to it in games he seemed imo to think sweeper took over the game and said cork would develop game suit he's player.
That's fine but unless he brings in around ten or so new players imo it's clear as dawn break day currently cork team not suited to direct orthodox style as we have no full back, no ball winning half forward line or half back line settled as of now.
Overall it was a good interview.

Congratulations to nemo, and surely one of corkery or kavanagh be in contention for the last senior football selector.
O brien wouldn't do as senior selector as he's he's own man imo and Cork managment is perfect as it is with strong independent voices so cork dont need a manager as a selector when we have three management already in the back room with healy.
For the last selector role just add a selector.
O brien should be offered the minor role though but that depends on herihly but the fact he picked a good back room team before I will trust him to replace kissane with another good coach.
On a final note you would feel happy in one way nemo won for the injured stephen Cronin.
Castle haven I don't doubt will come back again as it's there way, the only way they know.
They aren't gone away by any means.
It's good for county club that we had three different winners the last three years with the haven Ballincollig and nemo all winning and that variations breathed new life imo to the cork club football scene.

CORKDOUBLE

TTM that is one outstanding post to wake up to on a Bank holiday Monday morning ...what a pity that Great players did not do what Stephen O Brien and Colin Corkery etc have done learn there trade with there clubs first ..is this O Briens 4th. year ? great players like Ciaran O Sullivan, Eoin Sexton , Don Davis and Ronan McCarthy take note .....

keep going

So james macarthy isnt nailed down, I was surprised to hear he was involved

slingerz

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Bobby was a great player and indeed was a pundit cork Galway all ireland hurling final in 1990.
Clifford on the cork under seventeen hurling all ireland winning team this year is another player with potential.


I can see your point and fair enough you could say it was a free to have a free taker but most will agree the player taken off wasn't winning ball from play and they were right to make changes. Hurling is hurling you can't imo have a player there just for frees, many other aspects of a game.
If anything can be learned it is to have a second free taker and a role Ryan could more than fill imo.
One missed free didn't cost them the game it was the inability to close out a lead and lack of experience but I wouldn't fault them as it's new team with lots of youth and only recently went to minor grade two hurling.
Many people wouldn't have given them much hope in the game and indeed in the start of the championship itself they were written off.

Mid cork is strong at this level.
Dungourney may well the replay as favourite tend to do but cloughduv certainly have showed potential and if not this year will challenge strongly for this the next few years.

One thing here Mid Cork is very weak at junior level. Donoghmore; Kilmichael & Ballinora the only first team opponents Cloughduv would face and Cloughduv would be considerably stronger than them.

Short Mark Verling and Dara Ring they would be 2 important players for them it would be a gear achievement to win without them.

For Bandon winning the Junior has been a long time coming. Often picked out as potential winners they failed to realise their potential. Carbery division wide open for Caheragh, Mary's, Kilmac

Figsy32

Donal Og becoming part of the Clare set up according to Tony Leen on Twitter.

commonsense.

Figsy32 wrote:

Donal Og becoming part of the Clare set up according to Tony Leen on Twitter.

Fair play Figsy32, that's the type of relevant, up to date, concise info we need on this forum.
If true, shame on CCB for allowing one of our brightest to leave.

Figsy32

Clare County Board have confirmed it. Whatever your views on him, he obviously has talents and experience Cork hurling could use and it's a great shame they're not being exploited here. The other side of it is that if in the future he is good enough to take the senior job he'll have good Intercounty experience.

big_drive

I think that's a great addition to the Clare set up. Some people don't like Donal Og but his coaching is supposed to be superb. At end of the day he is a passionate hurling man. Pity he wasn't coaching Cork minor or u21's

Rebel norrie

Great move by Davy Fitz. Donal Og is a great signing. Giving up The Sinday Game , GPA . Club Hurling shows the commitment by de man. Clare's gain Corks loss.

thinkstoomuch1

big_drive wrote: »

I think that's a great addition to the Clare set up. Some people don't like Donal Og but his coaching is supposed to be superb. At end of the day he is a passionate hurling man. Pity he wasn't coaching Cork minor or u21's

It was confirmed by the media and is a superb move for davy but also as I have always said while davy yes at times can be he's own worst enemy he's not or never ever was as bad as he's own fans and indeed others made him out to be and he's a winner and with lit and also waterford the last man to get them to an all ireland and win munster and winning all ireland with clare and also was up north with Antrim Dunloy for a bit and he's very very good coach


Cusack joining him shows davy coaching is respected
What ever else goes on imo davy should only be judged on he's record and he's made mistakes but he's record is good and Cusack is a winner not a time waster and he's going to clare as he wants to win and belived they can


Cusack worry is no inter county record's but he's fast learner and the fact he was wanted with limerick by cunningjham as he's man is good sign
He coached colmans minor grade two and coached effective system that beat very good charville with some those charville lads winning the intermediate


Yes club and inter county is miles apart but he got the best out of he's team and player coached Cloyne to three county final

He's astute thinker and modern coach and will be all about high performance and having worked in Abbstown in the centre sports excellent excellence and being involved various committe he brings professional standards

He will also imo be good for davy and davy respects him as there similar characters and I think clare will be more discipline and davy will be better with media and not against referees as much

Clare have won four under twenty one all ireland and contested minor final lost by a point to kk and won intermediate all ireland and senior so there is a foundation of winners there and all clare need is harmony and unity and Cusack having seen problem in cork will know what to do and what not to do


He was excellent with colmans four night a week at times and young lads felt he was a great coach


Kinnerk not going to clare had worried me but Cusack is great choice now and as I posted on limerick thread Friday aonghus o brien limerick minor trainer was rated higly by players and Jerry Wallis is now there also and he's a clare man it's good for clare

Both davy and Cusack are against dual codes but know clare football won't be in championship long so they will facilitate
Clare also are doing all there training in clare and are moving from there winter base in ul in limerick where they were every winter so clare are making changes

They can definitely beat waterford next year and get to an all ireland series by winning that game there dangerous opponent

They will also target limerick home game in the league and i expect them to get promotion now over limerick as they will out think limerick

For all clare problem there the only team twice in the league to push kk all the way iin kk and the relegation battle kk treat like championship but even though clare had player out like kk they pushed them to the limit

There style of play with there attacking flow and pace and width will cause kk problem and I expect defence to be sorted under Cusack and imo there only team can beat kk next year
It's great for hurling as when it seemed kk would walk to a five in a row hurling has hope
He could win numerous all ireland but Cusack will never ever manage cork unfortunately

Two of cork hurling coaches cunningjham and Cusack are with other counties when ideally both should been in cork and cunningjham would brought Cusack in cork with him
I said when the draw was done i wanted to avoid clare and now Cusack is there I'm glad cork avoided clare

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Rebel norrie wrote: »

Great move by Davy Fitz. Donal Og is a great signing. Giving up The Sinday Game , GPA . Club Hurling shows the commitment by de man. Clare's gain Corks loss.

A great move .

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The Blackrock duhallow under twenty one game is off .