Bouncers

Adyx · 17-07-2015 03:47AM

I never really understand the fascination with bouncers. If a place has dickhead bouncers, then more than likely the staff, management and clientele are dickheads too. So why bother. Just go somewhere else. I can only speak from my own experience but generally the **** ones are weeded out and the good ones are the senior doorstaff you see on doors and who know what they're doing.

All that said I will over-rule bouncers when I think they're wrong. They cannot be relied upon to check for ID or drunkenness and many seem confused about legal closing times in Ireland.

MadsL · 17-07-2015 05:50AM

Bouncers in the US have gold shields just like cops. Wonder if it cuts down the 'hardman' factor?

Sir Osis of Liver. · 17-07-2015 06:49AM

Two chromosomes walk up to a night club and the bouncer says "Sorry lads, no genes."

arybvtcw0eolkf · 01-10-2015 11:30PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Just after watching rise of the foot soldier life story of Carlton Leech

A few things I wonder about

Were bouncers in clubs in those times really that tough no **** taking maniacs ??

Yes.

Don't mind what people say they read about bouncers etc.

I'm working the doors 25 years now, and yes bouncers were tough f*ckers.

Now its a little different, and nothing to do with the PSA (Private Security Authority), they're another FF/Green qwango with no real powers. They're another revenue maker and feck all else.

The bigger difference now is CCTV everywhere and people are liable to sue very quickly too.. Bars and clubs are also aware of social media, particularly the likes of FB and Tripadvisor ~ very bad reviews can cost you a lot of money.

There are still some very tough lads working the doors, but a lot of idiots too who wouldn't have been given work back then.

Great movie and from memory accurate for the time too.

myshirt · 01-10-2015 11:35PM

Ever head out in Liverpool?

Behave yourself and you'll have a great night. An absolutely great night. Misbehave, and by Christ.

Sh1tbag OToole · 01-10-2015 11:36PM

Adyx wrote: »

I never really understand the fascination with bouncers. If a place has dickhead bouncers, then more than likely the staff, management and clientele are dickheads too. So why bother. Just go somewhere else. I can only speak from my own experience but generally the **** ones are weeded out and the good ones are the senior doorstaff you see on doors and who know what they're doing.

All that said I will over-rule bouncers when I think they're wrong. They cannot be relied upon to check for ID or drunkenness and many seem confused about legal closing times in Ireland.

I'd avoid pubs with bouncers altogether. Feck it yer paying for the lad(s) standing outside the door as well as the barman in those places. There is probably a reason they have decided to take on bouncers as well, similar to how the shops in O'Connell street have all got them.

NachoBusiness · 01-10-2015 11:48PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yXwu1O49Uk

arybvtcw0eolkf · 01-10-2015 11:59PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

I'd avoid pubs with bouncers altogether. Feck it yer paying for the lad(s) standing outside the door as well as the barman in those places. There is probably a reason they have decided to take on bouncers as well, similar to how the shops in O'Connell street have all got them.

Usually to keep you safe from the sh*t bags outside who'd rather come in an glass you, rob your belongings, cause trouble, inject themselves in the loo's etc etc.

99% of the sh*t we take on the door the customers is largely unaware of. If we weren't there, you'd be aware of it.

Of course not everywhere is the same, Limerick for example. I love visiting the city, and hardly a bar with a bouncer (at least mid week) but then the streets are very quiet compared to Dublin and there's little need for security.

I'm of an age now where I expect door staff to hold the door open for me and greet me with a smile ~ anything else and I'll take my business elsewhere.

Fran1985 · 02-10-2015 12:07AM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

I'd avoid pubs with bouncers altogether. Feck it yer paying for the lad(s) standing outside the door as well as the barman in those places. There is probably a reason they have decided to take on bouncers as well, similar to how the shops in O'Connell street have all got them.

Most popular venues would have bouncers. in fact i can't think of 1 off top of my head that doesn't. Its very hard to avoid them. I go out and enjoy myself. I dont do a head count when i go somewhere, to see how many staff ill be paying for on a given night. They're used for more than stopping trouble. Its so the bar staff dont have to worry about serving underagers too, not to mention theres always one ejit on a nightout looking for a barney. Ludicrous to think a place with bouncers is dodgey. And yoi'll find security on shops throughout town, not just oconnell street.

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-10-2015 12:13AM

Fran1985 wrote: »

Most popular venues would have bouncers. in fact i can't think of 1 off top of my head that doesn't. Its very hard to avoid them. I go out and enjoy myself. I dont do a head count when i go somewhere, to see how many staff ill be paying for on a given night. They're used for more than stopping trouble. Its so the bar staff dont have to worry about serving underagers too, not to mention theres always one ejit on a nightout looking for a barney. Ludicrous to think a place with bouncers is dodgey. And yoi'll find security on shops throughout town, not just oconnell street.

It is usually a certain type of pub that has bouncers, not the type I'd be going to unless someone dragged me in there

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-10-2015 12:15AM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

It is usually a certain type of pub that has bouncers, not the type I'd be going to unless someone dragged me in there

Go on, for the craic type cast the pub which would typically have bouncers for us.

Mr.Carter · 02-10-2015 12:19AM

Limerick and Cork were very bad in the 90s for Dixkhead bouncers

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-10-2015 12:31AM

Giana Damp Switchboard wrote: »

Go on, for the craic type cast the pub which would typically have bouncers for us.

Ok so :cool:

They would usually double as a nightclub or at least have a late license, professionally designed logo outside the door, if it opened recently it would have leveraged social media heavily to hype up its opening day, perhaps taking on a 'rent-a-mob' from a marketing firm. Pub is owned by a 30-something entrepreneur with a cheesy grin and a well trimmed beard.

Inside it would be usually quite industrial looking with large posters and big screens covering up the otherwise 'unfinished building' look. Inside you'd have young, often clueless but well groomed bar staff with dyed and / or spiky hair all wearing the same clothes (possibly branded). Some of the staff may have a poor grasp of the English language and give back the wrong change but ya wouldn't mind too much because on a busy night you'd get your own back by passing off any ould worthless foreign currency as 1 and 2 euro coins. They wouldn't have too many taps at a time running either.

The jingleberries would tend to be loud and fairly sh1te, yet not the absolute worst, no Justin Bieber or anything, not much vocals in an attempt to keep it neutral. You'd get some of the more unusual stuff on tap like Hoegaarden and a couple of popular craft beers for the hipster vote but nothing mad eccentric either. There'd usually be a little upstairs part with no Guinness tap and possibly no stout at all. There'd be a cocktail menu but it would only have stuff that's easy and quick to make. In one of the corners you'd have one of those mist or fake smoke generator thingies and you'd go and sit close to that hoping it was real smoke and wishing it would drown out the smell of farts from lads who'd be off their heads flailing around the place with skinny jeans and white t-shirts thinking they're the bee's knees.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-10-2015 12:34AM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Ok so :cool:

They would usually double as a nightclub or at least have a late license, professionally designed logo outside the door, if it opened recently it would have leveraged social media heavily to hype up its opening day, perhaps taking on a 'rent-a-mob' from a marketing firm. Pub is owned by a 30-something entrepreneur with a cheesy grin and a well trimmed beard.

Inside it would be usually quite industrial looking with large posters and big screens covering up the otherwise 'unfinished building' look. Inside you'd have young, often clueless but well groomed bar staff with dyed and / or spiky hair all wearing the same clothes (possibly branded). Some of the staff may have a poor grasp of the English language and give back the wrong change but ya wouldn't mind too much because on a busy night you'd get your own back by passing off any ould worthless foreign currency as 1 and 2 euro coins. They wouldn't have too many taps at a time running either.

The jingleberries would tend to be loud and fairly sh1te, yet not the absolute worst, no Justin Bieber or anything, not much vocals in an attempt to keep it neutral. You'd get some of the more unusual stuff on tap like Hoegaarden and a couple of popular craft beers for the hipster vote but nothing mad eccentric either. There'd usually be a little upstairs part with no Guinness tap and possibly no stout at all. There'd be a cocktail menu but it would only have stuff that's easy and quick to make. In one of the corners you'd have one of those mist or fake smoke generator thingies and you'd go and sit close to that hoping it was real smoke and wishing it would drown out the smell of farts from lads who'd be off their heads flailing around the place with skinny jeans and white t-shirts thinking they're the bee's knees.

Mad post.

Goodnight.

Billy86 · 02-10-2015 12:36AM

Tombi! wrote: »

Sorry, but regulars only.
And no, just because we let that 15 year old in with no ID but their prematurely massive tits that's never been here before doesn't mean anything.

The uneasy truth you learn when you do some promo work during college. :-/

Plenty of creepy auld f***ers on those doors.

Fran1985 · 02-10-2015 01:00AM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Ok so :cool:

They would usually double as a nightclub or at least have a late license, professionally designed logo outside the door, if it opened recently it would have leveraged social media heavily to hype up its opening day, perhaps taking on a 'rent-a-mob' from a marketing firm. Pub is owned by a 30-something entrepreneur with a cheesy grin and a well trimmed beard.

Inside it would be usually quite industrial looking with large posters and big screens covering up the otherwise 'unfinished building' look. Inside you'd have young, often clueless but well groomed bar staff with dyed and / or spiky hair all wearing the same clothes (possibly branded). Some of the staff may have a poor grasp of the English language and give back the wrong change but ya wouldn't mind too much because on a busy night you'd get your own back by passing off any ould worthless foreign currency as 1 and 2 euro coins. They wouldn't have too many taps at a time running either.

The jingleberries would tend to be loud and fairly sh1te, yet not the absolute worst, no Justin Bieber or anything, not much vocals in an attempt to keep it neutral. You'd get some of the more unusual stuff on tap like Hoegaarden and a couple of popular craft beers for the hipster vote but nothing mad eccentric either. There'd usually be a little upstairs part with no Guinness tap and possibly no stout at all. There'd be a cocktail menu but it would only have stuff that's easy and quick to make. In one of the corners you'd have one of those mist or fake smoke generator thingies and you'd go and sit close to that hoping it was real smoke and wishing it would drown out the smell of farts from lads who'd be off their heads flailing around the place with skinny jeans and white t-shirts thinking they're the bee's knees.

You should get out more.

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-10-2015 01:05AM

Fran1985 wrote: »

You should get out more.

Not into them places anyway

uck51js9zml2yt · 02-10-2015 01:12AM

Never been refused entrance to a club...

Forgot to mention, I've never been to one...ever:)

Simon2015 · 02-10-2015 01:41AM

Bouncers now are alot more reasonable than they were in the Celtic Tiger years.

Back then I used to get refused from alteast one pub/club over the course of a night. Now its only in a blue moon when I get refused from somewhere.

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-10-2015 10:36PM

Breanna Elegant Cactus wrote: »

Never been refused entrance to a club...

Forgot to mention, I've never been to one...ever:)

Yer not missing out. Tis just paying to get into this room full of drunks to buy some overpriced drink and hop around the place to sh1te music

Merv the perv · 02-10-2015 11:03PM

Bouncers are grand as long as you're not acting the maggot you will find the majority of them are sound blokes.

Jack GrEnglish · 02-10-2015 11:09PM

KKkitty wrote: »

Meant to say I'm 25 sorry

25? Do you have any kids yet?

PARlance · 02-10-2015 11:24PM

What I always found a bit weird was the way some bouncers will brag about it being great for pulling women.... That's just borderline creepy for me.
I'm all for drunk sex when both people are, but personally I wouldn't feel right sleeping with someone on a different level sobriety.

Greenmachine · 02-10-2015 11:38PM

I think the professionalism of bouncers in general has changed over the past few decades for sure. Bouncers tended to be much rougher round the edges, not saying all of them, but it would not have been unusual for guys to literally be thrown through fire exit if they were too drunk or if they snuck in club. A Polish bouncer mentioned to me, how he had been fired for punching a female patron, as he was getting changed next to me in the gym locker room like it was a normal thing to do. This was around 2007-2008, by which point, I found bouncer pretty much everywhere polite and chatty, and generally helpful. The only times they tended to be abrupt was if the needed to break up a fight or if there is a safety issue.

I don't get the impression that things are the same in UK, going on what I have heard from lads I know, who bounce over there, but then they could be just bigging up. Some of these guys are characters.?

Merv the perv · 02-10-2015 11:57PM

PARlance wrote: »

What I always found a bit weird was the way some bouncers will brag about it being great for pulling women.... That's just borderline creepy for me.
I'm all for drunk sex when both people are, but personally I wouldn't feel right sleeping with someone on a different level sobriety.

Most bouncers who drink have a big piss up in the bar after they've finished work.

mynamejeff · 03-10-2015 01:16AM

Merv the perv wrote: »

Most bouncers who drink have a big piss up in the bar after they've finished work.

really ?

Granted it was a long time since I worked doors but one or two pints at most don't count as a huge piss up.

bar staff like to go home too ......

Merv the perv · 03-10-2015 01:17AM

mynamejeff wrote: »

really ?

Granted it was a long time since I worked doors but one or two pints at most don't count as a huge piss up.

bar staff like to go home too ......

The ones I know have a lock in after a hard nights graft.

PTH2009 · 03-10-2015 01:44AM

Greenmachine wrote: »

I think the professionalism of bouncers in general has changed over the past few decades for sure. Bouncers tended to be much rougher round the edges, not saying all of them, but it would not have been unusual for guys to literally be thrown through fire exit if they were too drunk or if they snuck in club. A Polish bouncer mentioned to me, how he had been fired for punching a female patron, as he was getting changed next to me in the gym locker room like it was a normal thing to do. This was around 2007-2008, by which point, I found bouncer pretty much everywhere polite and chatty, and generally helpful. The only times they tended to be abrupt was if the needed to break up a fight or if there is a safety issue.

I don't get the impression that things are the same in UK, going on what I have heard from lads I know, who bounce over there, but then they could be just bigging up. Some of these guys are characters.?

there some sound bounchers out there but if you mess with them youre fecked. most of them would workout together

have heard of a case where a bouncher picked out 2 innocent patrons in a club and mistook them and kicked the **** out of them up an alley and as there was no cctv the bounchers never got in trouble. i once got screamed at by a bouncher becasue i was looking at him in the eye

why cant people go out and get pissed and enjoy themselves without fighting ?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 03-10-2015 10:32AM

Simon2015 wrote: »

Bouncers now are alot more reasonable than they were in the Celtic Tiger years.

Back then I used to get refused from alteast one pub/club over the course of a night. Now its only in a blue moon when I get refused from somewhere.

You're also older now, less likely to be stopped because of age or the age of your mates. Probably better able to handle your drink too so you're not going up to the door arseways.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 03-10-2015 10:38AM

I've been getting into nightclubs since I was about 16, was there last weekend again for the first time this year and I think I'm finally over the nightclub phase

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