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  • #122
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,297 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Two UDR soldiers were involved, not the British army.

    .

    I thought the UDR was a regiment in the BA, are you claiming they were not?

    Are you going to describe Bloody Sunday as 'soldiers from the Paras were involved, not the British Army'


  • #123
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    I thought the UDR was a regiment in the BA, are you claiming they were not?

    Are you going to describe Bloody Sunday as 'soldiers from the Paras were involved, not the British Army'

    The Paras were on British Army duty, under command of an officer. The army is very much responsible.

    Claiming the British army carried out the Miami showband massacre is like saying the PIRA raped children.

    But you knew that anyway.


  • #124
    TOMASJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭TOMASJ


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    The Paras were on British Army duty, under command of an officer. The army is very much responsible.

    Claiming the British army carried out the Miami showband massacre is like saying the PIRA raped children.

    But you knew that anyway.

    Now were getting somewhere in your world,

    A british army Para or a british army member of the UDR who takes of their uniform and nips out to plant a bomb or shoot a nationalist is different to to one who has their uniform on,

    No uniform = no responsibility


  • #125
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Claiming the British army carried out the Miami showband massacre is like saying the PIRA raped children.

    no, it isn't. the BA were responsible, or at least had a part to play

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #126
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    end of the road wrote: »
    no, it isn't. the BA were responsible, or at least had a part to play

    Then the PIRA had a part to play in child abuse, it's the same logic.


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  • #127
    TOMASJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭TOMASJ


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    The Paras were on British Army duty, under command of an officer. The army is very much responsible.

    Claiming the British army carried out the Miami showband massacre is like saying the PIRA raped children.

    But you knew that anyway.


    Fred you should stop digging,

    Your comparsments are getting you in deeper,

    Im sure you have heard of Kincora boy home outside belfast where MI5 allowed rape and worst to take place for years so they could blackmail HIGH-RANKING PAEDOPHILES IN THE BRITISH MILITARY, CIVIL SERVICE AND POLITICS,

    Or maybe they were not acting on orders, or not wearing their uniform when abusing these young boys

    Theirs lots about it on the internet,

    But probally you knew that anyway


  • #128
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    TOMASJ wrote: »
    Fred you should stop digging,

    Your comparsments are getting you in deeper,

    Im sure you have heard of Kincora boy home outside belfast where MI5 allowed rape and worst to take place for years so they could blackmail HIGH-RANKING PAEDOPHILES IN THE BRITISH MILITARY, CIVIL SERVICE AND POLITICS,

    Or maybe they were not acting on orders, or not wearing their uniform when abusing these young boys

    Theirs lots about it on the internet,

    But probally you knew that anyway

    No, you're just displaying the typical blind hypocrisy of the republican movement.


  • #129
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,538 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    No, you're just displaying the typical blind hypocrisy of the republican movement.
    no, he isn't

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #130
    eire4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭eire4


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Hence my statement about allegations. Citing military intelligence is a handy one to throw around, because it is semi believable and will never be proven one way or the other.



    This is not a handy anything. The book names names John Irwin as a member of British intelligence as well as a UDR Captain. Robin Jackson who lead the Dublin bombing group was a British military intelligence trained killer. Nothing vague there. Sean McPhilemy states only that he cannot name the official in British military intelligence who authorised the bombings as he does not have evidence to back that up.


  • #131
    TOMASJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭TOMASJ


    No, you're just displaying the typical blind hypocrisy of the republican movemen

    So you think it hypocritic to point out ..... (espically when asked to) ..... some of the dirty deeds an murder the british got up to, and got away with.

    My my Fred I think you need a new mirror

    This same british army were were claiming to be peac keepers


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  • #132
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Republican Forces (OIRA, PIRA, INLA) are the only combatants in the war who killed more military & paramilitary personnel than any other force. Loyalists Forces (UDA, UVF LVF) 90% of the people they killed were civilians which is around 900. Loyalists actually somehow managed to kill more Loyalists than they did Republican Volunteers when all they had to concentrate on was Republicans, were Republicans had to concentrate on British Army, SAS several Loyalists death squads, the RUC & to a much lesser extent the Gardai & Free State Army & Republicans still managed to kill more Loyalists than Loyalists did Republicans even when Loyalists were at their peak around 91 - 94. That's some amazing testimony to how bad Loyalists were when it came to actual military actions & they relied heavily on rogue RUC & British soldiers passing them on info & in some cases actively helping them to kill people.

    A lot of people say they wouldn't want a United Ireland because there afraid Loyalists would launch a campaign like the IRA did but in Dublin & other 26 county places. I don't think there's any fear of that, without the British Forces helping them Loyalists are pretty useless.


  • #133
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    TOMASJ wrote: »
    So you think it hypocritic to point out ..... (espically when asked to) ..... some of the dirty deeds an murder the british got up to, and got away with.

    My my Fred I think you need a new mirror

    This same british army were were claiming to be peac keepers

    Maybe Fred would like to ask the victims of the Falls massacre, Ballymurphy massacre, Bloody Sunday, Springhill massacre & the Dunloy killing & the little kids they murdered in cold blood how good they are at peace keeping.
    Oh wait he can't the British Army murdered them.

    Fred's just a sad UVf sympathizer in disguise. Nothing more.


  • #134
    R P McMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    Possibility that Freddie Scappaticci will be questioned in open court about his alleged role as a British informer. Interesting development as Barra McGrory orders the Chief Constable to open an inquiry into collusion involving stake knife and British intelligence agencies linked to over 20 murders. 20 being very conservative


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