Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

irishfeen · 18-09-2015 10:21PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

That's what the NBP is meant to take care of.

Yeah but we are hearing that for years and years... is there any actual plan? say in our case it would mean I assume building an exchange close enough to serve us?

I cant see that ever happening unfortunately.

jd · 18-09-2015 10:27PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Yeah but we are hearing that for years and years... is there any actual plan? say in our case it would mean I assume building an exchange close enough to serve us?

I cant see that ever happening unfortunately.

The consensus is that you don't build more exchanges/cabinets, you roll out fibre to the home.

AlmightyCushion · 18-09-2015 10:28PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Yeah but we are hearing that for years and years... is there any actual plan? say in our case it would mean I assume building an exchange close enough to serve us?

I cant see that ever happening unfortunately.

They have taken submissions from all the isps about it. They want to give everyone outside of the UPC, SIRO and Eircom FTTC/FTTH networks a minimum if 30Mb. It's slow progress so far but it's better they take it slow and do it right then just give a load of money to 3 and pat themselves on the back like has happened before.

mass_debater · 18-09-2015 10:28PM

irishfeen wrote: »

Yeah but we are hearing that for years and years... is there any actual plan? say in our case it would mean I assume building an exchange close enough to serve us?

I cant see that ever happening unfortunately.

It was only announced last year, it's still in the planning stage, I think we're near the end of consultation and will see a plan soon enough, I expect around election time

irishfeen · 18-09-2015 10:30PM

jd wrote: »

The consensus is that you don't build more exchanges/cabinets, you roll out fibre to the home.

So in our case they would be running a single fibre from the exchange (about 3.5 miles). Would that even work with the given distance?

mass_debater · 18-09-2015 10:33PM

irishfeen wrote: »

So in our case they would be running a single fibre from the exchange (about 3.5 miles). Would that even work with the given distance?

Yes, fibre can be ran for 20km+ and then you main use a repeater and go the same again. Just like copper there will be distribution points, a single fibre from the exchange will connect lots of single fibres. Don't even expect exchanges, no need

irishfeen · 18-09-2015 10:34PM

In our case we are literally stuck in no-mans land... smack bang in the middle of two villages separated by about 8.5km, one without the exchange enabled (in these plans) and the other with broadband already.

AlmightyCushion · 18-09-2015 10:35PM

irishfeen wrote: »

So in our case they would be running a single fibre from the exchange (about 3.5 miles). Would that even work with the given distance?

Fibre is very different to copper. Distance doesn't really affect it. I think it starts to be affected by distance at 20KM but then you can just use a repeater and it's all good.

irishfeen · 18-09-2015 10:36PM

mass_debater wrote: »

Yes, fibre can be ran for 20km+ and then you main use a repeater and go the same again. Just like copper there will be distribution points, a single fibre from the exchange will connect lots of single fibres. Don't even expect exchanges, no need

And at the end of say 20km what loss in speed would be expected or is the loss minimal?

ED E · 18-09-2015 10:39PM

irishfeen wrote: »

And at the end of say 20km what loss in speed would be expected or is the loss minimal?

None, speed is pretty much flat until the point where it stops working.

Real world I don't see GPON going more than 10km. Normally less.

irishfeen · 18-09-2015 10:41PM

And the cost of running such fibre cables pole to pole over the exiting rural network? (outside that announced by Eircom's blue line) ... I assume its an unimaginable €€ thought?

AlmightyCushion · 18-09-2015 10:50PM

irishfeen wrote: »

And the cost of running such fibre cables pole to pole over the exiting rural network? (outside that announced by Eircom's blue line) ... I assume its an unimaginable €€ thought?

The fibre is cheap, it's cheaper than copper. It's ask the man power to get it to your house that costs a lot.

Johnboy1951 · 18-09-2015 10:51PM

irishfeen wrote: »

And the cost of running such fibre cables pole to pole over the exiting rural network? (outside that announced by Eircom's blue line) ... I assume its an unimaginable €€ thought?

The fibre cable is much cheaper than copper.
The poles exist.

So the cost is not as great as it might be if the existing infrastructure was not in place.

Of course the copper that falls into disuse can be recovered and sold, helping to defray the costs.

rob808 · 18-09-2015 11:03PM

Well I'm at the end of blue line I have underground ducting because there no pole outside my house doh the house beside my house has a pole so they must be doing both.

funnyname · 18-09-2015 11:04PM

Looking at the map for Clare, some of the towns/villages due for a fttc upgrade also have blue lines stretching out a few km from them and all the exchanges as part of the 300k rural ftth announcement are also there with beautiful blue lines.

I'm a bit gutted as my village is going to be upgraded early next year but no blue lines.

Any idea why this is, existing duct infrastructure is too poor and only looking at low hanging fruit for now?

KD11 · 18-09-2015 11:04PM

Deagol wrote: »

Are you sure? I was fairly sure I'd tried telephone numbers for the two you mentioned. Would be great if we could build up a DB of the various estates in each town?

Yeah, saw roadworks on the limerick road as I was passing so typed in a few addresses and they all had FTTH available. Im on the Kilrush road myself so I am kinda hoping they are doing the main entrance roads first like Quin, Kilrush, Tulla, Limerick and Gort roads.

Deagol · 18-09-2015 11:28PM

KD11 wrote: »

Yeah, saw roadworks on the limerick road as I was passing so typed in a few addresses and they all had FTTH available. Im on the Kilrush road myself so I am kinda hoping they are doing the main entrance roads first like Quin, Kilrush, Tulla, Limerick and Gort roads.

I'm at a bit of a loss to understand the criteria, I tried a few places that are modern estates (Tobertouscain, and Aughenteeroe and Abbeyview) and nothing. Some houses in Abbeyview where actually used for the VDSL trial c.1999 and they are not FTTH even though they surely must be ducted and the fibre is definitely passing along the front of the estate.

Anyone got the skills to start a DB / Map like the badly missed Spongebob did for the FTTC rollout??

ItHurtsWhenIP · 19-09-2015 11:35AM

irishfeen wrote: »

Yeah but we are hearing that for years and years... is there any actual plan? say in our case it would mean I assume building an exchange close enough to serve us?

I cant see that ever happening unfortunately.

If you want to have your say on the new NBP, you can see how you can make a submission on this page.

kopite davo · 19-09-2015 10:13PM

ok lads, does blue = good, on the NGA fibre network, even if you have crap speeds at the min?

rob808 · 19-09-2015 10:22PM

kopite davo wrote: »

ok lads, does blue = good, on the NGA fibre network, even if you have crap speeds at the min?

well my understanding if you on a blue line your getting FTTH in either 2017 or 2020.The blue line end at my house so hope I can get FTTH.Im currently on 4mb myself downloading anything take ages.

kleefarr · 19-09-2015 10:37PM

rob808 wrote: »

well my understanding if you on a blue line your getting FTTH in either 2017 or 2020.The blue line end at my house so hope I can get FTTH.Im currently on 4mb myself downloading anything take ages.

Makes you wonder how we survived with 56k dial up.

kopite davo · 19-09-2015 10:52PM

rob808 wrote: »

well my understanding if you on a blue line your getting FTTH in either 2017 or 2020.The blue line end at my house so hope I can get FTTH.Im currently on 4mb myself downloading anything take ages.

same here, on the blue, and get 4-5meg via wireless BB. i could be worse off i know, but painful seeing others on even 20-100meg.
what do you reckon on the speeds on the blue, is that the upto 1000meg?

rob808 · 19-09-2015 10:58PM

kopite davo wrote: »

same here, on the blue, and get 4-5meg via wireless BB. i could be worse off i know, but painful seeing others on even 20-100meg.
what do you reckon on the speeds on the blue, is that the upto 1000meg?

Well at the moment you be able to get 150mb,300mb and the premium 1Gb by time we get it could be higher:D

kopite davo · 19-09-2015 11:20PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

need to change my underwear

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

noc1980 · 20-09-2015 07:48PM

Blue line stops 150 meters from my house and another, both of us want ftth. Anyone have an idea what the chances are they'd go the extra for 150 for us?

mass_debater · 20-09-2015 07:51PM

noc1980 wrote: »

Blue line stops 150 meters from my house and another, both of us want ftth. Anyone have an idea what the chances are they'd go the extra for 150 for us?

Possibly, it looks like the blue lines are underground ducts. You could have 150m dropwire fed overhead from a distribution point in the duct but nobody will know until it starts. They are planning on overhead drops, Ive seen the setup.

The Cush · 20-09-2015 08:09PM

mass_debater wrote: »

Possibly, it looks like the blue lines are underground ducts.

Around my area most of the blue lines are overhead with the odd short underground duct where it intersects with overhead powerlines

This copper/fibre junction box was installed by KN earlier this year during post-storm repair work, it's located at a road junction where the blue lines on the map split to 2 roads

KOR101 · 20-09-2015 08:17PM

From todays' Independent.....

Its priority for the next nine months is to maintain growth and continue to roll out high-speed fibre broadband, using both fibre to the cabinet and the more expensive fibre right into homes. "It is an industrialised process now, we are doing this very quickly and effectively. It is a massive undertaking but it is happening."

It will also continue to roll out of its 4G mobile broadband network, targeting 80pc coverage by the end of the year, and launch new TV packages.

http://www.independent.ie/business/eir-lift-how-a-new-name-can-be-the-secret-to-success-31541764.html

rob808 · 20-09-2015 09:00PM

noc1980 wrote: »

Blue line stops 150 meters from my house and another, both of us want ftth. Anyone have an idea what the chances are they'd go the extra for 150 for us?

well the blue stop right outside my house my lines are under ground and my neighbours use a pole.The thing is the blue Line stops at my house and neighbour Only few meters from me and another 3 house up a little bit surely they would be included to get FTTH ?.

Niemoj · 20-09-2015 09:49PM

I suppose this thread'll need updating to the new eir moniker?

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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