"Haunting Image Of Drowned Boy Sums Up Consequences Of 'The Syrian War'"

R P McMurphy · 02-09-2015 08:43PM

Eliza Crooked Upstairs wrote: »

I honestly don't care about how much they are suffering, there's no room in our country for a large influx of refugees unless we want to see a reduction in our quality of life, which I know I don't.

I think you will find that having an attitude like that is fcuking up your quality of life, sour bitter outlook

Wanderer78 · 02-09-2015 08:43PM

im hearing peoples crys here but what do we do about our own housing crisis thats more than likely gonna get worse?

tonycascarino · 02-09-2015 08:43PM

A trickle becomes a flood. Don't want or need economic migrants/chancers/possible ISIS members in this country. I would love to know how many are actually genuine. Then there are people here playing to the gallery about how many migrants they will take in. Funny that they never think the same re taking in some homeless Irish people from the streets. Charity starts at home.

0byme75341jo28 · 02-09-2015 08:43PM

efb wrote: »

two years boys can die as long as we can maintain our quality of life???

On the other side of the world, yeah.

If it wasn't for this thread I'd have never seen this boy, it wouldn't have affected any of us so I don't see why everybody should be up in arms trying to save the world over something that has absolutely no effect on us.

alan partridge aha · 02-09-2015 08:44PM

No words can describe this, he just tears your heart out. RIP little man.

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:44PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im hearing peoples crys here but what do we do about our own housing crisis thats more than likely gonna get worse?

We use existing stock. Otherwise it's just middle class grandstanding.

0byme75341jo28 · 02-09-2015 08:45PM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

I think you will find that having an attitude like that is fcuking up your quality of life, sour bitter outlook

How did you figure that out?

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:45PM

Is Israel taking many?

SpaceSasqwatch · 02-09-2015 08:45PM

SSLguru wrote: »

We don't need to import welfare grabbing uneducated leeches which hate the way western society operate and will try force their barbaric islam views onto the natives.

:rolleyes:

efb · 02-09-2015 08:46PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im hearing peoples crys here but what do we do about our own housing crisis thats more than likely gonna get worse?

Our housing crises- one family refusing to be housed in a neighbouring country vs countries ravaged by war, risking life and limb for freedom.

Why do we value some lives higher than others???

Wanderer78 · 02-09-2015 08:46PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

We use existing stock. Otherwise it's just middle class grandstanding.

oh keep an eye on the interest rates now!

02-09-2015 08:46PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im hearing peoples crys here but what do we do about our own housing crisis thats more than likely gonna get worse?

I agree with you. There is horrible things happening and we need to take in as much as we can realistically take in. I don't know what the number is that we can afford to take in because I am not an expert in that area, but I'll trust the guys who come up with the number. I hope we can help out some people.

In another way of thinking though, everyone from that area can't run some people have to stay behind and try fix the problems in their home countries.

Also its a bit suspicious that the majority of refugees are young, single males.

efb · 02-09-2015 08:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree with you. There is horrible things happening and we need to take in as much as we can realistically take in. I don't know what the number is that we can afford to take in because I am not an expert in that area, but I'll trust the guys who come up with the number. I hope we can help out some people.

In another way of thinking though, everyone from that area can't run some people have to stay behind and try fix the problems in their home countries.

Also its a bit suspicious that the majority of refugees are young, single males.

where did you get the final statistic from???

Wanderer78 · 02-09-2015 08:49PM

efb wrote: »

Our housing crises- one family refusing to be housed in a neighbouring country vs countries ravaged by war, risking life and limb for freedom.

Why do we value some lives higher than others???

refer to post 132. this refugee situation is a cluster f*ck and wont be dealt with correctly. its deeply disturbing to watch the images including these images. europe is looking at some serious problems ahead including ourselves

02-09-2015 08:52PM

efb wrote: »

where did you get the final statistic from???

I have said above I am no expert, it was just a general observation from me. I hope that we can genuinely help people that truly need the help, while weeding out the people who are economic migrants/criminals. I am fully aware there is people in need in that part of the world and I hope we can help as many as we are financially capable of.

It would suck people who were truly in need weren't getting help because of some people who are pretending to be in need.

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:53PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

You're using this thread to push your anti-US agenda. Are they to blame? Sure they shoulder some blame. But it's just naive and ignorant to ignore the other factors that brought us to where we are today. For example the marginalising of Sunni's by the predominantly Shia administration in Iraq which benefited ISIS in Iraq or Assads ineptitude as a ruler which led to the civil war in the first place.

Theres a lot of people to blame. It's just lazy to blame the US for everything.

Oh do rant off. The U.S. Invaded Iraq on a tissue of lies. The Arab springs were deliberate attempts to overthrow anti western dictators who brought stability to the region. John mc Cain met with the Syrian rebels in 2013 ( and took a selfie) he saw them as fighters against irans Shia paramilitaries. I bet they got some presents. The med crisis is caused by the over throw of Ghadfiffi, another destabilisation dreamed up in the fever swamps of neo conservative run US.

Their next trick is bombing Iran into the Middle Ages based on the lies about its nonexistent nuclear program, and that will cause an exodus that makes this pale into insignificance.

efb · 02-09-2015 08:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have said above I am no expert, it was just a general observation from me. I hope that we can genuinely help people that truly need the help, while weeding out the people who are economic migrants/criminals. I am fully aware there is people in need in that part of the world and I hope we can help as many as we are financially capable of.

It would suck people who were truly in need weren't getting help because of some people who are pretending to be in need.

So basically you pulled it out of your ar*e

petrolcan · 02-09-2015 08:54PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

The 10000 or so would need to be housed. We don't have the capacity for that unless we start to take places in people's houses.

Are all the ghost estates gone now?

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:55PM

efb wrote: »

Our housing crises- one family refusing to be housed in a neighbouring country vs countries ravaged by war, risking life and limb for freedom.

Why do we value some lives higher than others???

But there is a housing crisis. So why should the poor pay. I assume you agree with taking holiday homes etc. first?

RandomName2 · 02-09-2015 08:55PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

Let them in...

In no world is right to send them back to ISIS land

And who made it ISIS land?

America: with its "fight Assad to the last Syrian" campaign.

You even have, I believe, political figures such as Jeb Bush and Hilary Clinton saying that "to defeat ISIS we must first defeat Assad".

Bullsh^t.

Assad's regime and the Peshmerga are the only two combatants against ISIS: one of which is being bombed by the US, the other by Turkey.

So the solution is for Syria to be abandoned; and for its people come to Europe? How does that make one jot of sense.

efb · 02-09-2015 08:56PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

But there is a housing crisis. So why should the poor pay. I assume you agree with taking holiday homes etc. first?

crisis in what sense? What do you mean make the poor pay?

My name is URL · 02-09-2015 08:56PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

A trickle becomes a flood. Don't want or need economic migrants/chancers/possible ISIS members in this country. I would love to know how many are actually genuine. Then there are people here playing to the gallery about how many migrants they will take in. Funny that they never think the same re taking in some homeless Irish people from the streets. Charity starts at home.

Most homeless people on the streets of Ireland are there in part, by choice. They have options and help available to them, even if more could be done.

Using them as a pawn in the argument against migration is a huge cop-out

02-09-2015 08:56PM

efb wrote: »

So basically you pulled it out of your ar*e

Its a discussion forum, I was discussing. I didn't say anything malicious, wow you are very hostile.

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:57PM

petrolcan wrote: »

Are all the ghost estates gone now?

Well if they haven't why is rent increasing by 25% over its nadir? It's also increased outside Dublin.

But I don't know. There might be places in Roscommon. They still need to get services etc so people's homes is a better solution.

Spread the love · 02-09-2015 08:57PM

I found that picture horrific to see. That poor wee lifeless soul, he didn't deserve that. He should have been building sandcastle and paddling on the beach at his age. I have a daughter a bit younger than that little guy and I couldn't imagine the same thing to happen her. She was just lucky that she was born in a peaceful, safe country. As we all are here.

I genuinely feel for these migrants because I think they are genuine and not coming to cream the system. I watched a documentary last year about when they dropped the chemical weapons on innocent civilians and it was the most horrific thing that I've ever seen. I would also love to house people here as I genuinely think that these people are fleeing Syria out of sheer terror and a brutal regime. I feel for those poor souls and do not want to think what will happen when winter kicks in.

efb · 02-09-2015 08:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Its a discussion forum, I was discussing. I didn't say anything malicious, wow you are very hostile.

You were presenting nonsense as fact.

Wanderer78 · 02-09-2015 08:58PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

The med crisis is caused by the over throw of Ghadfiffi, another destabilisation dreamed up in the fever swamps of neo conservative run US.

im fairly sure the fact that gaddafi had set up his own public banking system, annoyed his western creditors as well and also the fact he was helping some african nations to do the same. smart man pity he was such a scum bag at the same time

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:58PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

And who made it ISIS land?

America: with its "fight Assad to the last Syrian" campaign.

You even have, I believe, political figures such as Jeb Bush and Hilary Clinton saying that "to defeat ISIS we must first defeat Assad".

Bullsh^t.

Assad's regime and the Peshmerga are the only two combatants against ISIS: one of which is being bombed by the US, the other by Turkey.

So the solution is for Syria to be abandoned; and for its people come to Europe? How does that make one jot of sense.

Because the destabilisation of both Europe and the Middle East is part of the plan.

Eugene Norman · 02-09-2015 08:59PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im fairly sure the fact that gaddafi had set up his own public banking system, annoyed his western creditors as well and also the fact he was helping some african nations to do the same. smart man pity he was such a scum bag at the same time

Was your first sentence going somewhere?

Letree · 02-09-2015 08:59PM

How many calling for more refugees/economic migrants are willing to offer a room, take a cut in your dole, cut in your wages or increase in PRSi, Tax, USC, accept larger class sizes, longer waiting lists for healthcare, more people on housing list etc.

Are you happy to take in thousands from a religion that won't integrate, hasn't integrated in any meaningful way in any European country to date.

I'm not.

"Haunting Image Of Drowned Boy Sums Up Consequences Of 'The Syrian War'"

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