Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

irishbucsfan · 30-08-2015 11:31PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

RK can't pass though :pac:

Unless you mean DK who's awesome

Dave played 10 in school. If you can play 10 for CWC you can do it for Ireland.

The Pheasant2 · 30-08-2015 11:31PM

No leaks yet anyway so...wonder if it'll have leaked by morning?

connachta · 30-08-2015 11:33PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Dave played 10 in school. If you can play 10 for CWC you can do it for Ireland.

yeah Dave, he can kick well too...
And Rob for the placed kicks and drop-goals 50 m from the posts

The Rape of Lucretia · 30-08-2015 11:36PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Dave played 10 in school. If you can play 10 for CWC you can do it for Ireland.

Not a runner. It would be bergamasque.

The Rape of Lucretia · 30-08-2015 11:38PM

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

No leaks yet anyway so...wonder if it'll have leaked by morning?

Yes. WTF is going on ? Why have the details not leaked out. This is where those bananas twitter handles should be coming in useful.

connachta · 30-08-2015 11:40PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

bergamasque.

smiley_face · 30-08-2015 11:40PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I would think it's more that of Sexton gets a mild injury before the week of the Italy game do we

a) do nothing and have only 1 outhalf for the Italy game
b) call up a replacement and rule a player out of the squad for the rest of the tournament
c) make Sexton a part of the 23 and risk him straining the injury further

I can't see Schmidt only going with 2 outhalves, especially after his comment s on speciality players (hookers, scrum halves etc) at the team announcement for the Wales game.

It's not really believable, if we had another player in another position that could play out-half at test level then we could maybe consider it, but Murray or anyone else would only be asking for trouble, would be like putting Peter O'Mahony on the wing again in that disastrous match against Italy a few years ago.
Remember Mauro Bergamasco at Scrum half a few years ago, that's the type of chaos we'd be risking.
Never gonna happen.

aimee1 · 30-08-2015 11:44PM

Wat game did murray fill on at 10 for the final 5 or so minutes? Was it the france game in feb?

smiley_face · 30-08-2015 11:45PM

connachta wrote: »

yeah Dave, he can kick well too...
And Rob for the placed kicks and drop-goals 50 m from the posts

Ok, if an emergency during a match maybe as last resort, but never by design, would be the craziest choice to go with 2 outhalves when PJ is perfectly capable of stepping in.

aimee1 · 30-08-2015 11:48PM

smiley_face wrote: »

Ok, if an emergency during a match maybe as last resort, but never by design, would be the craziest choice to go with 2 outhalves when PJ is perfectly capable of stepping in.

What is the logic behind the idea? Is it to bring a 6th prop?

If it is true then that is the only really logical reason for the gamble because it is where the injury issues are.

connachta · 30-08-2015 11:49PM

smiley_face wrote: »

Ok, if an emergency during a match maybe as last resort, but never by design, would be the craziest choice to go with 2 outhalves when PJ is perfectly capable of stepping in.

Was just looking deeper into the hypothesis/rumour

connachta · 30-08-2015 11:50PM

aimee1 wrote: »

What is the logic behind the idea? Is it to bring a 6th prop?

If it is true then that is the only really logical reason for the gamble because it is where the injury issues are.

Indeed

The Rape of Lucretia · 30-08-2015 11:50PM

aimee1 wrote: »

What is the logic behind the idea? Is it to bring a 6th prop?

If it is true then that is the only really logical reason for the gamble because it is where the injury issues are.

Yes. Or at least, bringing Healy even though he isnt fit, but on the expectation/gamble that he will be fit later in the tournament.
Its a valid ploy to explore. Nobody here (maybe anywhere) really knows what Healy's chances are.

Buer · 30-08-2015 11:51PM

Just finished watching the game again. If the training reports are true, combined with yesterday, DK is on the plane. He really bossed his wing and took control of things, popping up in midfield and dominating in the air (he had the best couple of catches of any player on the field). I think he might even be in the mix for the 23.

I think Earls and Fitz are in a direct shoot out for a spot. Both are more talented and better players than a number of guys who will travel but I'm not really sure they both will.

Before yesterday, I'd have said Earls is on the plane. Now, it's a little bit up in the air. On watching the match few times, he had a bit of a nightmare yesterday. Fitzgerald was dull as dishwater but did everything very calmly and solidly without ever being noticeable on first watch.

I'd say Schmidt has watched the game forensically since, examining everyone's individual performance. I'm not sure who is going to go anymore.

awec · 30-08-2015 11:51PM

Or he could want to bring two of Earls, Fitz and Jones.

smiley_face · 30-08-2015 11:55PM

aimee1 wrote: »

Wat game did murray fill on at 10 for the final 5 or so minutes? Was it the france game in feb?

Didn't happen in either of the last 2 6 Nations. Unless it happened in the Autumn during an injury crisis mid-match sometime? Vaguely remember it happening sometime alright though.

Buer · 30-08-2015 11:55PM

awec wrote: »

Or he could want to bring two of Earls, Fitz and Jones.

That would mean two of Zebo, Trimble and DK miss out which I don't see happening.

awec · 30-08-2015 11:56PM

Buer wrote: »

That would mean two of Zebo, Trimble and DK miss out which I don't see happening.

Not if Jackson isn't going?

Or have I miscounted?

Buer · 30-08-2015 11:59PM

awec wrote: »

Not if Jackson isn't going?

Or have I miscounted?

Ah, I wasn't taking the PJ rumour seriously after bilston cast aspersions over the source!

smiley_face · 31-08-2015 12:01AM

awec wrote: »

Or he could want to bring two of Earls, Fitz and Jones.

Don't think so, he probably already will be bringing 2 of that trio. More likely D Kearney or one of that trio are next in line IMO.

awec · 31-08-2015 12:01AM

Buer wrote: »

Ah, I wasn't taking the PJ rumour seriously after bilston cast aspersions over the source!

The guy who posted it isn't a regular poster anyway, or even an in-the-know.

bilston · 31-08-2015 12:02AM

Buer wrote: »

Ah, I wasn't taking the PJ rumour seriously after bilston cast aspersions over the source!

The reason I have my doubts is that he has 14 posts and his first post several months ago was something along the lines of "I don't rate Jackson"...

The rest of his posts haven't been controversial though so he may know what he's talking about.

The Pheasant2 · 31-08-2015 12:03AM

Reckon the Jackson rumour's a load of rhubarb tbh...mmmm could go for some crumble right now

AbusesToilets · 31-08-2015 04:57AM

Wouldn't be shocked if Bowe missed out, think he has been in a fairly poor run of form and doesn't cover across the back line as well as the other contenders.

irishbucsfan · 31-08-2015 05:17AM

Brian O'Driscoll has published his opinion on what the squad might be:

(I seperated it out a little so take no notice of who is on which line)

Backs :

Rob Kearney, Simon Zebo, Luke Fitzgerald, Tommy Bowe, Dave Kearney,
Keith Earls, Jared Payne, Robbie Henshaw,
Ian Madigan, Paddy Jackson, Johnny Sexton,
Conor Murray, Eoin Reddan, Isaac Boss.

Forwards :

Jack McGrath, Cian Healy, Dave Kilcoyne,
Mike Ross, Nathan White,
Rory Best, Sean Cronin, Richardt Strauss,
Devin Toner, Paul O’Connell, Donncha Ryan, Iain Henderson,
Peter O’Mahoney, Sean O’Brien, Jordi Murphy, Chris Henry, Jamie Heaslip

No Felix Jones, no Martin Moore, no Michael Bent, just 2 tightheads there. Interesting.

bilston · 31-08-2015 07:21AM

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Wouldn't be shocked if Bowe missed out, think he has been in a fairly poor run of form and doesn't cover across the back line as well as the other contenders.

I don't see it. If Bowe was under pressure he would have been given every chance to prove otherwise and would have played more than one game so far.

clsmooth · 31-08-2015 07:44AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Brian O'Driscoll has published his opinion on what the squad might be:

(I seperated it out a little so take no notice of who is on which line)

No Felix Jones, no Martin Moore, no Michael Bent, just 2 tightheads there. Interesting.

No Trimble either

molloyjh · 31-08-2015 08:13AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Brian O'Driscoll has published his opinion on what the squad might be:

(I seperated it out a little so take no notice of who is on which line)

No Felix Jones, no Martin Moore, no Michael Bent, just 2 tightheads there. Interesting.

Was looking at that yesterday. Only 2 THs doesn't make much sense. Either we take 5 props, one of whom is Bent, or we take 6.

vienne86 · 31-08-2015 08:42AM

Still no rumours.......how are they keeping the lid on it?

DGRulz · 31-08-2015 08:47AM

vienne86 wrote: »

Still no rumours.......how are they keeping the lid on it?

Everyone was told they aren't going, we're bringing the Toulon squad on loan and none of the Irish lads want to admit it

Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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