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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Rumour on UAFC that Ulster won't be having to make do with Ian Humphreys at out half over the next few weeks.

    Edit - it would be surprising to only bring two out halves, one of whom is covering a load of other spots. We won't have long to wait to find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    kuang1 wrote: »
    D Kearney in for Zebo.
    Zebo in for Jones.
    Jones as standby.

    And again it's a toss up whether or not earls and fitz swap places in your list...anyone's guess.

    I keep saying this I know...but I think Joe has some serious man-love for both D Kearney and Trimble. (And I have no problem with it!)

    Yes, what you've suggested is my 2nd choice as I think Jones will be selected.
    Also Fitz may be ahead of Earls for Centre backup, but I'd guess Earls has the edge.
    The only thing that will surprise me will be if injuries keep guys out of selection, impossible to say at this point, but seeing as we have 3 weeks to get guys fit I can't see any injury we have so far being an issue. Fingers crossed Healy, Moore, Earls, Fitz, POM and Sexton are all ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    bilston wrote: »
    Rumour on UAFC that Ulster won't be having to make do with Ian Humphreys at out half over the next few weeks.

    That's a fascinating one from left field and, on the basis of the last month, something that's a genuine possibility. I say it as a big PJ fan.

    Never would have occurred to me whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    bilston wrote: »
    Rumour on UAFC that Ulster won't be having to make do with Ian Humphreys at out half over the next few weeks.

    I take it that's not because yer man Windsor has turned out to be awesome?

    Jackson didn't help his cause in his showings but that would still be a massive shock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    In this case, who steps in behind Sexton and Madigan as emergency cover? Kearney? Murray?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I'd be completely shocked if Jackson isn't in the squad. He wasn't even made available for Ulster in pre-season games so I didn't think there was even a slight question over his inclusion. Hard not to be skeptical about that one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    connachta wrote: »
    In this case, who steps in behind Sexton and Madigan as emergency cover? Kearney? Murray?

    Madigan is so versatile, he can provide cover for himself.


  • Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭ Bentlee Cold Drivel


    connachta wrote: »
    In this case, who steps in behind Sexton and Madigan as emergency cover? Kearney? Murray?

    You'd never have the three of them in a match day squad so not sure why you need emergency cover in any case.

    We could bring 5 out halves but if two of then get injured in one game we're goosed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    You'd never have the three of them in a match day squad so not sure why you need emergency cover in any case.

    We could bring 5 out halves but if two of then get injured in one game we're goosed.

    Same reason you need emergency cover for a scrum half.

    There's a 48 hour stand down window. So if Sexton picked up some injury 2 days before the France game which ruled him out for a week it would mean we'd need to make a choice between going into the game with no out half cover or else swapping out Sexton for Jackson (which would mean losing Sexton for the rest of the tournament).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    You'd never have the three of them in a match day squad so not sure why you need emergency cover in any case.

    We could bring 5 out halves but if two of then get injured in one game we're goosed.

    Was asking about the 48hours rule. If Schimdt can't call Jackson back, who's playing 22?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Buer wrote: »
    That's a fascinating one from left field and, on the basis of the last month, something that's a genuine possibility. I say it as a big PJ fan.

    Never would have occurred to me whatsoever.

    Who would possibly be the 12 cover then ? If the Dog had to start the minor games, then he aint on the bench as cover. Fitzie and Earlsie to travel ???? Then surely we would have seen one of them given a run a 12 over the last few weeks. Hard to see how it would work unless Cave were in the squad which doesnt look likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    I'd be completely shocked if Jackson isn't in the squad. He wasn't even made available for Ulster in pre-season games so I didn't think there was even a slight question over his inclusion. Hard not to be skeptical about that one!

    Yeah, I've just had a look at the post history of the poster who came up with that rumour and actually if I had read it before I probably would have thought twice about posting it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    Who would possibly be the 12 cover then ? If the Dog had to start the minor games, then he aint on the bench as cover. Fitzie and Earlsie to travel ???? Then surely we would have seen one of them given a run a 12 over the last few weeks. Hard to see how it would work unless Cave were in the squad which doesnt look likely.

    D'Arcy.. By the way, he could play outhalf for a few minutes, couldn't he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    connachta wrote: »
    In this case, who steps in behind Sexton and Madigan as emergency cover? Kearney? Murray?

    I can't believe that PJ could be left out, we need 3, and nobody else is close to selection at this point.
    Most likely referring to Sam Windsor, 27 year old Aussie (Irish Qualified through parents), was given a 1 year contract started in July and was expected to challenge for a starting spot according to the BBC.


  • Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭ Bentlee Cold Drivel


    Aha. Murray then I would assume, he's been emergency cover for Munster before.

    I still expect Jackson to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    I'd be completely shocked if Jackson isn't in the squad. He wasn't even made available for Ulster in pre-season games so I didn't think there was even a slight question over his inclusion. Hard not to be skeptical about that one!

    Unless it is one of the possibilties that the prop worries have caused, and Joe is trying to find a good finesse to only bring 5 half backs. And alternative to the Madser covering scrummie if you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    I can't believe that PJ could be left out, we need 3, and nobody else is close to selection at this point.
    Most likely referring to Sam Windsor, 27 year old Aussie (Irish Qualified through parents), was given a 1 year contract started in July and was expected to challenge for a starting spot according to the BBC.


    That's more likely indeed..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I can't believe that PJ could be left out, we need 3, and nobody else is close to selection at this point.
    Most likely referring to Sam Windsor, 27 year old Aussie (Irish Qualified through parents), was given a 1 year contract started in July and was expected to challenge for a starting spot according to the BBC.

    If Sam Windsor challenges for a starting spot with Ulster then either he's improved drastically or else Ulster are in severe trouble at 10!

    I think it's more likely the source of the rumour is questionable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    If Humphreys is under pressure from Windsor then he might as well pack it in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    So, rumours : 9)Madigan 10)Murray 11) Rodney AhYou


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    Who would possibly be the 12 cover then ? If the Dog had to start the minor games, then he aint on the bench as cover. Fitzie and Earlsie to travel ???? Then surely we would have seen one of them given a run a 12 over the last few weeks. Hard to see how it would work unless Cave were in the squad which doesnt look likely.

    Not going to happen, we'll need 3 out halves.
    Anyway if it were to happen then Madigan would start at 10 with Sexton on the bench. Either Henshaw or Payne would have to play 12 with Earls/Fitz at 13.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    connachta wrote: »
    D'Arcy.. By the way, he could play outhalf for a few minutes, couldn't he?

    Non. The-Sweet-Jink-of-England-2004 has been laid to rest.


  • Administrators Posts: 55,140 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It wasn't referring to Windsor.

    The post in question explicitly said the ginger prince had missed the cut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    awec wrote: »
    It wasn't referring to Windsor.

    The post in question explicitly said the ginger prince had missed the cut.

    Ok so, was a load of bull then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ok so, was a load of bull then.

    Bull Hayes called up you mean? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    My own choice would be Kearney as emergency 10 if injury...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    You'd never have the three of them in a match day squad so not sure why you need emergency cover in any case.

    We could bring 5 out halves but if two of then get injured in one game we're goosed.

    I would think it's more that of Sexton gets a mild injury before the week of the Italy game do we

    a) do nothing and have only 1 outhalf for the Italy game
    b) call up a replacement and rule a player out of the squad for the rest of the tournament
    c) make Sexton a part of the 23 and risk him straining the injury further

    I can't see Schmidt only going with 2 outhalves, especially after his comment s on speciality players (hookers, scrum halves etc) at the team announcement for the Wales game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    I can't believe that PJ could be left out, we need 3, and nobody else is close to selection at this point.
    Most likely referring to Sam Windsor, 27 year old Aussie (Irish Qualified through parents), was given a 1 year contract started in July and was expected to challenge for a starting spot according to the BBC.

    Nothing to do with Windsor. You are just inferring that from the way I worded my post so apologies for that.

    I'm not convinced, I'm just passing it on as there haven't been any other rumours other than Wang King vaguely suggesting Jones was in the 31.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    connachta wrote: »
    My own choice would be Kearney as emergency 10 if injury...

    RK can't pass though :pac:

    Unless you mean DK who's awesome :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    connachta wrote: »
    My own choice would be Kearney as emergency 10 if injury...

    Which Kearney? Assuming you mean Rob. Has he played there before or something?


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