Kerry GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post #4167

mystic86 · 26-08-2015 01:19PM

BPKS wrote: »

What else was to be expected after what Brolly said about Canavan in the Sindo..................Brolly was lucky Canavan didn't run into his elbow and go down holding his head hoping the stewards would throw Brolly out.

what did he say?

keane2097 · 26-08-2015 02:06PM

mystic86 wrote: »

what did he say?

It was Canavan what started all the diving :rolleyes:

BPKS · 26-08-2015 02:12PM

mystic86 wrote: »

what did he say?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-column-peter-canavan-was-one-of-the-original-experts-in-feigning-31470670.html

9bred4 · 26-08-2015 02:59PM

Good reads!

Kerrydude1981 · 27-08-2015 01:58PM

Looking at the stats today in the Kerrys Eye

Individual Possessions

Walsh 32
JOD 29
Moran 28
Murphy 28
Maher 25

JOD also got four assists along with the four points he got from placed balls,not a bad days work.

homerjay2005 · 27-08-2015 06:00PM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Looking at the stats today in the Kerrys Eye

Individual Possessions

Walsh 32
JOD 29
Moran 28
Murphy 28
Maher 25

JOD also got four assists along with the four points he got from placed balls,not a bad days work.

ya i thought he was super. if you said this time last year wed win a final without him scoring and get to another without him scoring from play, people would be calling the men in white coats.

its amazing how adaptable his game is.

have to laugh also how people said David Moran wasnt effective. almost the most touches on the pitch and was only on the field for 55 mins.

Fear Ciarrai · 27-08-2015 08:14PM

Radio5 wrote:

Just heard the end of Sunday Sport and Gary mentioned that he is away for the next few weeks. I wonder who'll be doing commentary on the matches next Sunday then?

Great decision by Radio Kerry to get Timmy Moynihan to commentate on the senior game

careca · 28-08-2015 08:13AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

have to laugh also how people said David Moran wasnt effective. almost the most touches on the pitch and was only on the field for 55 mins.

He is having a great season but Sun wasn't his best game (I seem to be saying that about a lot of them

). While he got his hands on the ball a lot he didn't really do much with it (I accept the blanket defence didn't help). A lot of his passes were sideways and he was caught in possession at least 2 if not 3 times. The only long pass I remember him making was in the very first min (to Don) and that was won by Tyrone. A bit like James though, he didn't shy away from it at any stage.

wonga77 · 28-08-2015 08:34AM

Just seen the new fixture list from the county board, looks like another year of club football heading for December, and in the case of the NK championship probably January. Round 10 of the county league on the 26th of September and no date fixed for rd 11

Kerrydude1981 · 28-08-2015 08:58AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Just seen the new fixture list from the county board, looks like another year of club football heading for December, and in the case of the NK championship probably January. Round 10 of the county league on the 26th of September and no date fixed for rd 11

Always happens,club players well used to it now at this stage

Somewhere down the line during the summer they will have to start playing mid week County League games,they do it other counties so cant see why they cant do it in Kerry as well.

wonga77 · 28-08-2015 09:04AM

Yeah I know, I just wish the county players werent wrapped in cotton wool and a few more games were played in the summer. Killkenny players had county league the week after beating Waterford, Its an age old arguement but there are lots of teams in the county championship that have only played 1 round so far, surely theres some way around that

careca · 28-08-2015 09:32AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Yeah I know, I just wish the county players werent wrapped in cotton wool and a few more games were played in the summer. Killkenny players had county league the week after beating Waterford, Its an age old arguement but there are lots of teams in the county championship that have only played 1 round so far, surely theres some way around that

As long as we are successful they won't change and I fail to see why they should. Donegal wanted their system changed to mirror ours as it gives the county team a better chance. All it takes is for JOD or Richie Hogan in KK to get injured and there would be an uproar. I know they can get injured in training but there is a far better chance in a competitive championship match where some local lad wants to make himself a hero.

Prop Joe · 28-08-2015 10:13AM

careca wrote: »

As long as we are successful they won't change and I fail to see why they should.. All it takes is for JOD or Richie Hogan in KK to get injured and there would be an uproar. I know they can get injured in training but there is a far better chance in a competitive championship match where some local lad wants to make himself a hero.

Thats utter horse sh1t ,Players should be left play with there clubs up to 13 days before inter county games

careca · 28-08-2015 10:57AM

Prop Joe wrote: »

Thats utter horse sh1t ,Players should be left play with there clubs up to 13 days before inter county games

LOL. Up to 13. And what about after big matches. You happy enough for all the Kerry lads to play a Championship match on the Wed night after an AI semi final, or does it wait a full 7 days. Whether you like it or not (and I acknowledge it is very hard or club players) it works for Kerry and has done for some time.

wonga77 · 28-08-2015 11:32AM

Our club has a player on the minor panel, so far this year he has played 1 club championship match (which we were knocked out in the first round) and 2 and a half county league games. I would say at a rough estimation he has featured for about 20 - 30 minutes max for the kerry minors. The same goes for lots of other clubs with both minor and senior players, its a system that definately needs tweaking

D'Agger · 28-08-2015 11:36AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Our club has a player on the minor panel, so far this year he has played 1 club championship match (which we were knocked out in the first round) and 2 and a half county league games. I would say at a rough estimation he has featured for about 20 - 30 minutes max for the kerry minors. The same goes for lots of other clubs with both minor and senior players, its a system that definately needs tweaking

I don't mind a minor player not featuring much for his senior team - when not involved with the minor county setup, the main focus should be with the club minor team - which is why I'm sure he's missing out on Senior obligations

wonga77 · 28-08-2015 11:40AM

Yeah but our club is working with a panel of about 18 or so players, a lad talented enough to be on the minor squad and not featuring for the club senior team is sickening, especially when you know he would make a big difference to us. Funnily enough he has played a few games for the club minor (amalgamated team) maybe thats down to the timing of their games as opposed to county league games, I cant be sure, but you get my drift anyway

D'Agger · 28-08-2015 11:47AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Yeah but our club is working with a panel of about 18 or so players, a lad talented enough to be on the minor squad and not featuring for the club senior team is sickening, especially when you know he would make a big difference to us. Funnily enough he has played a few games for the club minor (amalgamated team) maybe thats down to the timing of their games as opposed to county league games, I cant be sure, but you get my drift anyway

That's understandable, a player like that could prove the difference, you'd need to be starting on your senior team at 17 to be looking to get on the minor panel really but even then, from a physical point of view, young fellas are more prone to getting a dart that would cause an injury at senior level than minor where they'd most like be dominant physically - it's the smarter move to protect minor players from senior games, albeit at the cost of the clubs senior team. If it's just for one year then it would need to be looked at as short term loss for long term gain, although there's plenty of county minors who don't deliver on their promise after finding alcohol :pac:

Prop Joe · 28-08-2015 11:53AM

The biggest problem is the structure of the fixtures for the clubs,I have no problem with a guy on the Inter County team to be grounded for county league games its just the nature of the beast.

If this calender was implemented it with run far more smoothly

Mar-22 Co.Lge Rd.1
Mar-29 Allianz Lge
Apr-05 Bank Holiday Weekend
Apr-12 Co.Lge Rd.2
Apr-19 FREE WEEKEND
Apr-26 Co.Lge Rd.3
May-03 FREE WEEKEND - Bank Holiday Weekend
May-10 Club Champ Rd.1
May-17 Co.Lge Rd.4
May-24 Co.Champ Rd.1
May-31 FREE WEEKEND - Bank Holiday Weekend
Jun-07 Co.Lge Rd.5
Jun-14 FREE WEEKEND - Kerry v Tipp
Jun-21 Club Champ QF
Jun-28 Co.Lge Rd.6
Jul-05 FREE WEEKEND - Kerry v Cork
Jul-12 Co.Lge Rd.7
Jul-19 FREE WEEKEND - Kerry v Cork
Jul-26 Co.Lge Rd.8
Aug-02 FREE WEEKEND - Kerry v Kildare
Aug-09 Co.Lge Rd.9
Aug-16 FREE WEEKEND
Aug-23 FREE WEEKEND - Kerry v Tyrone
Aug-30 Co.Lge Rd.10
Sep-06 FREE WEEKEND
Sep-13 Co.Lge Rd.11
Sep-20 FREE WEEKEND - All Ireland Final
Sep-27 Co.Champ QF
Oct-04 Club Champ Semi
Oct-11 Co.Champ Semi
Oct-18 Club Champ Final
Oct-25 Co.Champ Final
Nov-01
Nov-08
Nov-15 Munster Club

It gives players a regular programme of games with defined Free Weekends for holidays etc.. I would also give inter county players the oppurtunity to play the first 4 games of the league before focusing on Kerry.

In July & August there could be an oppurtunity to play midweek games if there was back games to be played

Prop Joe · 28-08-2015 11:55AM

D'Agger wrote: »

That's understandable, a player like that could prove the difference, you'd need to be starting on your senior team at 17 to be looking to get on the minor panel really but even then, from a physical point of view, young fellas are more prone to getting a dart that would cause an injury at senior level than minor where they'd most like be dominant physically - it's the smarter move to protect minor players from senior games, albeit at the cost of the clubs senior team. If it's just for one year then it would need to be looked at as short term loss for long term gain, although there's plenty of county minors who don't deliver on their promise after finding alcohol :pac:

I would be in favour of changing the age grades to U-11,13,15 & minor being 17 with no minor allowed play Senior

Jippo · 28-08-2015 12:18PM

careca wrote: »

He is having a great season but Sun wasn't his best game (I seem to be saying that about a lot of them ). While he got his hands on the ball a lot he didn't really do much with it (I accept the blanket defence didn't help). A lot of his passes were sideways and he was caught in possession at least 2 if not 3 times. The only long pass I remember him making was in the very first min (to Don) and that was won by Tyrone. A bit like James though, he didn't shy away from it at any stage.

By many accounts he was injured. There was a rumour before the game that he was out.

danganabu · 28-08-2015 12:41PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

I would be in favour of changing the age grades to U-11,13,15 & minor being 17 with no minor allowed play Senior

in theory I would agree, but the reality is you would effectively extinguish a large number of small rural clubs who would simply not be able to field a team, let alone a competitive one.

Prop Joe · 28-08-2015 01:03PM

danganabu wrote: »

in theory I would agree, but the reality is you would effectively extinguish a large number of small rural clubs who would simply not be able to field a team, let alone a competitive one.

You must be 17 to play senior football anyway..It would not make a difference.Just lower the workload of lads that are playing with multiple teams

danganabu · 28-08-2015 01:45PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

You must be 17 to play senior football anyway..It would not make a difference.Just lower the workload of lads that are playing with multiple teams

You can play senior at 16. How would not being able to play minors not make any difference?

Prop Joe · 28-08-2015 01:51PM

danganabu wrote: »

You can play senior at 16. How would not being able to play minors not make any difference?

No you can't - Motion 50 that was passed at this years congress

(50)
That Rule 6.16 - Official Guide Part 1 – Age Grades (page 83) in respect of Adult and Under 21 Grades be amended to read as follows:
Adult
Club - be over 17 years
Inter-County - be over 18 years

9bred4 · 28-08-2015 04:16PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Our club has a player on the minor panel, so far this year he has played 1 club championship match (which we were knocked out in the first round) and 2 and a half county league games. I would say at a rough estimation he has featured for about 20 - 30 minutes max for the kerry minors. The same goes for lots of other clubs with both minor and senior players, its a system that definately needs tweaking

Do we?

wonga77 · 28-08-2015 11:05PM

My half of the amalgamation has anyway, your's doesnt :P

Kerrydude1981 · 29-08-2015 08:52AM

Best of luck to the Kerry ladies today against Cork,

Louise Galvin is back on the panel,she has been busy playing 7s Rugby with Ireland.

1 EDEL MURPHY – LAUNE RANGERS

2 GINA CROWLEY – INBHEAR SCEINE GAELS
3 AISLINN DESMOND – RATHMORE
4 AISLING LEONARD – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS

5 CAROLINE KELLY – SOUTHERN GAELS
6 CAIT LYNCH – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS
7 MARIA QUIRKE – NA GAEIL

8 BERNIE BREEN – LAUNE RANGERS
9 LORRAINE SCANLON – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS

10 EMMA SHERWOOD – FIRIES
11 SARAH HOULIHAN – LAUNE RANGERS
12 DENISE HALLISSEY – INBHEAR SCEINE GAELS

13 PATRICE DENNEHY – LAUNE RANGERS
14 MEGAN O CONNELL – SOUTHERN GAELS
15 LOUISE NI MHUIRCHEARTAIGH – CORCHA DHUIBHNE

SUBSITUTES
16 LAURA FITZGERALD – NA GAEIL
17 LAURA ROGERS – AUSTIN STACKS
18 CASSANDRA BUCKLEY – SPA
19 AMANDA BROSNAN – DR.CROKES
20 AISLING O CONNELL – SCARTAGLIN
21 EILISH O CONNOR – NA GAEIL
22 BRID O CONNOR – NA GAEIL
23 ANDREA MURPHY – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS
24 BERNIE CRONIN – SOUTHERN GAELS
25 LINDA CRONIN – SOUTHERN GAELS
26 RHEANNE O SHEA – DR.CROKES
27 DEIRDRE KEARNEY – NA GAEIL
28 JANE LYNCH – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS
29 LEANNE MANGAN – CASTLEISLAND DESMONDS
30 LOUISE GALVIN – FINUGE ST.SENANS

dobman88 · 29-08-2015 05:38PM

Kerry ladies not doing too bad against Cork. Down by 4 points at half time. One goal was a bad mistake by the keeper with a short kick out. The other was a sick finish from Valerie Mulcahy. Overall doing ok though.

Aislinn Desmond doing well for us at the back and number 11 who I don't know playing well. Kicked two fine points late in the half.

Just cut out the mistakes at the back and they'd be flying.

An Ciarraioch · 29-08-2015 05:46PM

Was vital to get the last two points before the break, just one goal and they'll be right in contention.

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