Animal Cruelty Attack in Cork by Teens

knird evol · 18-08-2015 01:43PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

They tried this in the US, it doesnt work. The have half the country in prison and crime is still rampant

You would have to know the level of crime in the US in the same period in a scenario where they hadn't put half the country in prison.

Then compare the two levels of crime. From that comparison you could extrapolate the effectiveness of prison.

However you don't have that data so you are just engaged in speculation.

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 01:54PM

osarusan wrote: »

Do you think that something like an intellectual disability should be taken into account when considering where they get locked up?

Absolutely, difference between a mental health ward or even a minimum security prison vs a maximum one.

Again, what I'm advocating isn't about punishment, it's about removing those psychopathic elements from society so that the rest of us don't have to put up with their bullsh!t.

18-08-2015 02:02PM

Cormac... wrote: »

Dunno what your obsession with bringing Intellectually Disabled people into this is, no one else is discussing it, just you, you keep bringing it up.

Women were burned at the stake by mobs for being witches in the past, and they even had a court case/trial. - shock horror, nothing vigilante about it

Why don't we start saying theres nothing wrong with this cause the ole Aztecs used to slit many animals throats back in the day to appease their sun-gods or whatever

You're talking garbage in my opinion.

Um, you said you couldn't follow the point, I went though the point, and now you said "you keep making that point"!

"Dunno what your obsession with bringing" witches and Aztecs into it though!

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Absolutely. Sadists like these are a danger to decent society.

So a submission that could be made in cases of dangers to society like killing, rape, kidnap etc. could not be made in the case of animal cruelty?

That...doesn't make sense.

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 02:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So a submission that could be made in cases of dangers to society like killing, rape, kidnap etc. could not be made in the case of animal cruelty?

That...doesn't make sense.

I don't agree with the perpetrators of the aforementioned crimes being released unchecked into decent society either.

Demonique · 18-08-2015 02:27PM

Menas wrote: »

I dunno, people really make me scratch my head...or in this case gag. Do they think animals dont feel physical pain? What do they get out of this? A thrill of seeing a defenseless animal in agony?

Fckin people.

Animals do feel pain and will react accordingly (I had to put iodine on a royal python with scale rot, Stimmy definitely didn't appreciate it and her body tensed as soon as the iodine touched her, I had my mother holding her tail whilst I held her body to stop her from curling into a ball)

Hopefully Marvin managed to get a few bites in

Streetwalker · 18-08-2015 02:31PM

Antarctica wrote: »

What is wrong with these evil people torturing an innocent animal. They and anyone associated with them should be sterilised and/or jailed for life/executed.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-gang-tortured-pet-dog-then-slit-his-throat-31458544.html

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-gang-tortured-pet-dog-then-slit-his-throat-31458544.html

So they killed a dog and they should be executed? Right so.

Generic Dreadhead · 18-08-2015 02:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Um, you said you couldn't follow the point, I went though the point, and now you said "you keep making that point"!

"Dunno what your obsession with bringing" witches and Aztecs into it though!

A families loved pet is dead at the hands of cruel thugs.

Don't see it as a time for laughing myself.

seamus · 18-08-2015 02:47PM

petrolcan wrote: »

Sensationalist headlines. They also report that the dog had 'his head was half cut off' when the picture posted show otherwise.

I believe there's more to this story not being told.

Yep.

And apparently the dog "was attacked sometime over Friday or Saturday". Uh, why do you not know where you dog is? Why can you not say, "The dog went missing on Friday night and was found the next day"?

Because there's a good chance this family allowed the dog to roam free on the streets.

Far more likely that this dog was off wandering around and some mentally ill neighbour who was sick of stray dogs crapping in his garden decided to do something drastic.

Doesn't make it any less horrific, but obviously less sensationalist than the idea that there are roaming gangs of murderous teenagers snatching dogs from peoples' homes.

18-08-2015 03:03PM

Cormac... wrote: »

A families loved pet is dead at the hands of cruel thugs.

Don't see it as a time for laughing myself.

As you are well aware, I wasn't laughing at that at all.

I was laughing at you saying "you can't bring that into it, but something something about witches and Aztecs".

That was funny. Not the dead dog. Nor, indeed, your suggestion that kids legs should be broken for it.

Streetwalker · 18-08-2015 03:11PM

A dog has been killed and the response from several posters on boards is the murder of the scumbags that did it. Jesus wept.

folamh · 18-08-2015 03:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I am all for punishing people appropriately, but let's not shriek "sterilise 'em" every time something does someone bad.

It's a bit...weird. As for executing them, come on, that's just silly.

I hope ISIS castrate and behead them.

Señor Fancy Pants · 18-08-2015 03:24PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

A dog has been killed and the response from several posters on boards is the murder of the scumbags that did it. Jesus wept.

Did you read what they did to the dog? Can you imagine the pain of what happened to him? Just really focus on what happened and don't just treat it as "a dog being killed" because that's not what happened.

I don't agree with killing the guys that did it but if caught, what tangible punishment will they get?

I'd wager a slap on the wrist because someone will argue that they have had a complicated past depending on their possible social status or home life.

I'd be in favour of serious hard labour in the public domain for an extended amount of time. No state aid of any sort for 10 years and maybe even chopping a hand off.

But Im not a Judge.

kylith · 18-08-2015 03:26PM

seamus wrote: »

Yep.

And apparently the dog "was attacked sometime over Friday or Saturday". Uh, why do you not know where you dog is? Why can you not say, "The dog went missing on Friday night and was found the next day"?

Because there's a good chance this family allowed the dog to roam free on the streets.

Far more likely that this dog was off wandering around and some mentally ill neighbour who was sick of stray dogs crapping in his garden decided to do something drastic.

Doesn't make it any less horrific, but obviously less sensationalist than the idea that there are roaming gangs of murderous teenagers snatching dogs from peoples' homes.

While I don't think that it's more likely that a mentally ill neighbour snatched the dog the wording of the article ('cornered the dog') does seem to indicate that he was on the streets rather than in his own garden.

EazyD · 18-08-2015 03:27PM

If this is the sort of pastime these deranged scummy twats like to partake in, it can only be a matter of time until they try this on the wrong dog and have to get their own danglies sewn back on.

Overheal · 18-08-2015 03:37PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

A dog has been killed and the response from several posters on boards is the murder of the scumbags that did it. Jesus wept.

You haven't been around long, every AH thread is a witty headline, sensationalist OP, 2 or 3 thankswhoring replies, a call for penile castration and a rant about spineless court judges, Atari Jaguars, and being thankful that at least it's not as bad as the Americans or something or begrudging about water meters. By the 100th post, the next 800 posts are the same 5 posters sniping at each other ad infinitum.

Generic Dreadhead · 18-08-2015 03:39PM

Overheal wrote: »

By the 100th post, the next 800 posts are the same 5 posters sniping at each other ad infinitum.

You would say that! Typical liberal whataboutery :mad:

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 03:41PM

Why does mental illness always crop up in these threads before there's a single shred of evidence that there was any?

The inability of some eejits to accept that there are some thugs who are just sadistic scumbags who have no decency always baffles me. It doesn't necessarily mean anyone is mentally ill, just that some people are horrible, nasty f*cks who get a kick out of causing suffering to others.

Señor Fancy Pants · 18-08-2015 03:44PM

Overheal wrote: »

You haven't been around long, every AH thread is a witty headline, sensationalist OP, 2 or 3 thankswhoring replies, a call for penile castration and a rant about spineless court judges, Atari Jaguars, and being thankful that at least it's not as bad as the Americans or something or begrudging about water meters. By the 100th post, the next 800 posts are the same 5 posters sniping at each other ad infinitum.

He has 1000+ posts in AH....as I'm sure you know. So he's around long enough.

Your contribution to this thread has solely been to judge contributors of the thread.

I'm here to prove your point. How do you feel about what actually happened? At least if it happened in America, the dog would have been armed with a 9mm and could have had a chance.

2smiggy · 18-08-2015 04:36PM

talking about it on 'the last word' on today fm now ..

KingBrian2 · 18-08-2015 04:47PM

Acts of violence against animals has increased over the years. I remember a while back the news reported a slaughter of horses on a beach. Humans can be despicable towards the animal kingdom. Pet holders and other animal holders should be vetted before being allowed to care for animals.

Galwayguy35 · 18-08-2015 04:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I am all for punishing people appropriately, but let's not shriek "sterilise 'em" every time something does someone bad.

It's a bit...weird. As for executing them, come on, that's just silly.

No but I sincerely hope they die in the same way as that poor little dog, and the sooner the better.

They won't be any great loss to society anyway.

KingBrian2 · 18-08-2015 04:58PM

I'm sure people are familiar with an knack very common among kids. Using a magnifying glass to use the sun to burn small insects. While young and innocent your know no better and fascinated with learning a neat trick. This cruel behaviour only stunts your ability to empathise with the creatures you handling, only from them do you turn on larger animals to inflict pain on them. This is the stage that kids should be aware of the diversity of life and that treating them with cruelty is a bad reflection of their character.

petrolcan · 18-08-2015 05:21PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Acts of violence against animals has increased over the years. I remember a while back the news reported a slaughter of horses on a beach. Humans can be despicable towards the animal kingdom. Pet holders and other animal holders should be vetted before being allowed to care for animals.

I disagree. Animal cruelty has been round all the time. It's just better reported now.

I lost count of the amount of bags of drowned kittens and puppies I discovered in my youth when fishing.

ToddyDoody · 18-08-2015 05:27PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am all for punishing people appropriately, but let's not shriek "sterilise 'em" every time something does someone bad.

It's a bit...weird. As for executing them, come on, that's just silly.

I'm all for an angry mob bandwagon, I'd bring a mild pellet gun to both shoot at the perpetrators AND the mob

18-08-2015 05:35PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why does mental illness always crop up in these threads before there's a single shred of evidence that there was any?

The inability of some eejits to accept that there are some thugs who are just sadistic scumbags who have no decency always baffles me. It doesn't necessarily mean anyone is mentally ill, just that some people are horrible, nasty f*cks who get a kick out of causing suffering to others.

Because when a thread is launched in hysteria like "sterilise them all, execute them, break their legs", pointing out that before the mob executes them they may have a defence eg. they could not form the intent, is very very rational. Of course the same analysis may lead to your conclusion, that they are sadistic scumbags. But if you prefer hysteria over careful consideration, that is your prerogative.

Overheal · 18-08-2015 05:39PM

Señor Fancy Pants wrote: »

He has 1000+ posts in AH....as I'm sure you know. So he's around long enough.

Your contribution to this thread has solely been to judge contributors of the thread.

Attack the post not the poster; and no, I never judged anyone in this thread.

I'm here to prove your point. How do you feel about what actually happened? At least if it happened in America, the dog would have been armed with a 9mm and could have had a chance.

That's a racist comment.

I feel that a dog shouldn't be tortured and mutilated and the group should be pursued for prosecution. Straightforward enough.

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 05:53PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because when a thread is launched in hysteria like "sterilise them all, execute them, break their legs", pointing out that before the mob executes them they may have a defence eg. they could not form the intent, is very very rational. Of course the same analysis may lead to your conclusion, that they are sadistic scumbags. But if you prefer hysteria over careful consideration, that is your prerogative.

It's nothing about hysteria, I just don't believe that anything can count as a valid defender in a case like this. Mentally ill or not, these scumbags should not be allowed to live among decent society which does not want to tolerate this kind of crap. Why it happened is entirely irrelevant - it happened, and if we don't want it to happen again, those who did it must lose at least some of their freedom.

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 05:58PM

Overheal wrote: »

and the group should be pursued for prosecution. Straightforward enough.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that, it's what happens afterwards that's the problem. What kind of action should a court take against the perpetrators of this kind of crime, in your view?

Justin Credible Darts · 18-08-2015 06:04PM

Mayfield is a dump

Besides the dog that was killed, another six week old dog was hung a few weeks back in balinderry park mayfield, the same park where the fire brigade was stoned recently.
Another neighbour has his cat stolen and then tied to a tree while the kids went to get their whippet dogs, thankfully one kid saved the kitten and returned it.

There are no cats nor kittens left as all killed , or had dogs set upon them.
Another kid was mugged and had his phone and wallet taken of him at knife point, but who care when the cops have peaceful water protesters to follow around in droves instead.

hatrickpatrick · 18-08-2015 06:09PM

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Mayfield is a dump

Besides the dog that was killed, another six week old dog was hung a few weeks back in balinderry park mayfield, the same park where the fire brigade was stoned recently.
Another neighbour has his cat stolen and then tied to a tree while the kids went to get their whippet dogs, thankfully one kid saved the kitten and returned it.

There are no cats nor kittens left as all killed , or had dogs set upon them.
Another kid was mugged and had his phone and wallet taken of him at knife point, but who care when the cops have peaceful water protesters to follow around in droves instead.

So in other words, it's yet another community which has been totally let down by law enforcement and/or the courts system. Areas with problems like this should have regular patrols - whatever happened to "walking the beat"?

Animal Cruelty Attack in Cork by Teens

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