Animal Cruelty Attack in Cork by Teens

Antarctica

What is wrong with these evil people torturing an innocent animal. They and anyone associated with them should be sterilised and/or jailed for life/executed.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-gang-tortured-pet-dog-then-slit-his-throat-31458544.html

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/teen-gang-tortured-pet-dog-then-slit-his-throat-31458544.html

Generic Dreadhead

Sick fcuks, hope they rot in hell, little sh!ts

frag420

Scummy C*unts!!

Grayditch

Much more serious than these kids just being scumbags, whoever did this is a psychopath in the making.

Boring username

I keep posting a link that sums up the state of criminality in Ireland. The cold hard reality is that nothing is going to change until we, the public, demand it. Here is that post yet again:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96193247&postcount=18

the_monkey

Awful.

This is what happens with benefit states that award people money for having kids, you have 1000s of unwanted little ****s that were never shown love, so they are sociopathic themselves.

These people should be paid NOT to have kids, you introduce that, next generation anti social behaviour will plummet.

ancapailldorcha

the_monkey wrote: »

Awful.

This is what happens with benefit states that award people money for having kids, you have 1000s of unwanted little ****s that were never shown love, so they are sociopathic themselves.

These people should be paid NOT to have kids, you introduce that, next generation anti social behaviour will plummet.

Is this really necessary? These people in no way represent the unemployed.

tobsey

Where is the evidence that this was a teenage gang?

Ave Sodalis

Oh look, we already have a completely ridiculous dole bashing post. Just waiting for the "why aren't we all giving out about *insert other random cause here*" posts.

petrolcan

There's more holes in that story than there are in my colander.

testaccount123

Boring username wrote: »

I keep posting a link that sums up the state of criminality in Ireland. The cold hard reality is that nothing is going to change until we, the public, demand it. Here is that post yet again:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96193247&postcount=18

Thats great mate, except it doesnt reduce crime.

Omackeral

Antarctica wrote: »

What is wrong with these evil people torturing an innocent animal. They and anyone associated with them should be sterilised and/or jailed for life/executed.

Best of luck with that.

I am all for punishing people appropriately, but let's not shriek "sterilise 'em" every time something does someone bad.

It's a bit...weird. As for executing them, come on, that's just silly.

superfurry1

Would love to hear a good news story for a change? maybe tommorrow, Local Teen kidnapped and tortured for animal cruelty would put a smile on my face.

Balmed Out

Id like to suggest a few threads get re-titled.



Irishman Corkman treats Indian migrant to day out at Ferrari World in Abu Dhabi.

Teenagers castrate, torture and slit throat of dog in Cork Ireland

Boring username

testaccount123 wrote: »

Thats great mate, except it doesnt reduce crime.

A revolving door prison system doesn't reduce crime, I agree with you there. If Johnny scumbag is doing 20 years without parole, he's not really going to have a chance to break into a pensioners house and beat them to a pulp.
That's not to say you'll prevent all crime, but every low life you can get off the streets for a long time is a success.
Most of the crime taking place is by repeat offenders, sometimes with convictions in the hundreds.
And I'll bet my right nut the people who did this have multiple prior convictions.

Menas

I dunno, people really make me scratch my head...or in this case gag. Do they think animals dont feel physical pain? What do they get out of this? A thrill of seeing a defenseless animal in agony?

Fckin people.

RichardCeann

Poor oul Marvin.

Larbre34

Deleted User wrote: »

I am all for punishing people appropriately, but let's not shriek "sterilise 'em" every time something does someone bad.

It's a bit...weird. As for executing them, come on, that's just silly.

Yeah that probably is over the top.

Hard to argue with a punishment beating though isn't it? Let's face it, the justice system will neither phase nor discourage the type of people that carry out acts that appear on the spectrum of 'future serial killer'.

As my dear old Grandma used to say, "don't care was made to care".

RomanKnows

Torturing animals in childhood is one of the early indicators of psychopathic behaviour.

Larbre34

Larbre34 wrote: »

Hard to argue with a punishment beating though isn't it?

No.

The only forum for dealing with these people is the Courts.

You may disagree with some of the sentencing handed down, but that does not mean mob justice is good. I mean, if the person who did it was very calculating, should he get two broken legs, but if he suffers from some intellectual disability should he only get one, or none? Do you think mob rule actually addresses any nuances?

testaccount123

Boring username wrote: »

A revolving door prison system doesn't reduce crime, I agree with you there. If Johnny scumbag is doing 20 years without parole, he's not really going to have a chance to break into a pensioners house and beat them to a pulp.
That's not to say you'll prevent all crime, but every low life you can get off the streets for a long time is a success.
Most of the crime taking place is by repeat offenders, sometimes with convictions in the hundreds.
And I'll bet my right nut the people who did this have multiple prior convictions.

They tried this in the US, it doesnt work. The have half the country in prison and crime is still rampant, much much higher than it is here.

Simplistic revenge based solutions dont work in the real world.

suicide_circus

RomanKnows wrote: »

Torturing animals in childhood is one of the early indicators of psychopathic behaviour.

These kids should be monitored by gardai for the foreseeable future

RomanKnows

RomanKnows wrote: »

Torturing animals in childhood is one of the early indicators of psychopathic behaviour.

Yes, but it is only an indicator, it is not inevitable.

Hitler loved animals. It doesn't mean that liking a dog leads to trying to murder millions and taking over the world.

michael999999

the_monkey wrote: »

Awful.

This is what happens with benefit states that award people money for having kids, you have 1000s of unwanted little ****s that were never shown love, so they are sociopathic themselves.

These people should be paid NOT to have kids, you introduce that, next generation anti social behaviour will plummet.

Exactly.

And leave the Bertie aherns and Michael Lowry's walk around in there fancy suits untroubled.

petrolcan

RomanKnows wrote: »

Torturing animals in childhood is one of the early indicators of psychopathic behaviour.

But not a guarantee.

RobertKK

People who do this are scary, and their lack of empathy is a danger to the wider society they live in.

rubadub

tobsey wrote: »

Where is the evidence that this was a teenage gang?

not evidence but found this.

EDIT: warning - picture of dog post attack in the link.
http://www.herald.ie/news/family-in-despair-after-beloved-pet-dog-marvin-has-throat-slashed-31458129.html

Gardai have previously investigated reports that two gangs are using dogs, including a greyhound, to hunt down and kill pet cats and terriers around Cork. Some areas of Cork have been left virtually cat-free because of the gangs' actions

Generic Dreadhead

Deleted User wrote: »

No.

The only forum for dealing with these people is the Courts.

You may disagree with some of the sentencing handed down, but that does not mean mob justice is good. I mean, if the person who did it was very calculating, should he get two broken legs, but if he suffers from some intellectual disability should he only get one, or none? Do you think mob rule actually addresses any nuances?

Oh here we go, more hand-wringing nonsense.

If these kids had a couple of legs broken, I for one, wouldn't have a shred of pity for them.

hytrogen

the_monkey wrote: »

Awful.

This is what happens with benefit states that award people money for having kids, you have 1000s of unwanted little ****s that were never shown love, so they are sociopathic themselves.

These people should be paid NOT to have kids, you introduce that, next generation anti social behaviour will plummet.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0132886

Sterilizing could be the key here if that's what you're implying.. 8-)

Ave Sodalis

suicide_circus wrote: »

These kids should be monitored by gardai for the foreseeable future

They should be in prison anyway, so that will be easy enough.

hytrogen

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yeah that probably is over the top.

Hard to argue with a punishment beating though isn't it? Let's face it, the justice system will neither phase nor discourage the type of people that carry out acts that appear on the spectrum of 'future serial killer'.

As my dear old Grandma used to say, "don't care was made to care".

Bring back ye olde ways of public flogging & humiliation. That would send them on the right path

HalloweenJack

Warning to any of those following rubadub's link: it has a picture of the dog post-attack.

In fairness, there is no concrete links, so far, to this being the work of teenagers. "Locals suspect" and "Gardai have investigated reports of gangs" doesn't make it true. If it was "Gardai suspect" and "Gardai have warned about gangs targeting animals" than there'd be a bit more to it.

This could be the work of anyone and some posters have used the headline to already have a go at their favourite targets.

HalloweenJack

Cormac... wrote: »

If these kids had a couple of legs broken, I for one, wouldn't have a shred of pity for them.

I wouldn't pity them either, tbh.

However, encouraging a culture of vigilantism is not the way to go.

eire81

The law is never going to sort these type of scumbags out.the reality is that these type of psychopaths will continue to reoffend.They have no fear of the judicial system or going to jail.the simple fact is that they only understand violence and I agree a punishment beating/kneecapping would soon teach these b#stards some respect.

Boring username

testaccount123 wrote: »

They tried this in the US, it doesnt work. The have half the country in prison and crime is still rampant, much much higher than it is here.

Simplistic revenge based solutions dont work in the real world.

The US is a different country, with massive gun crime, different laws, and a huge problem with gang criminality. The US was also the target of Castro's crime waves, where he shipped Cuba's undesirables to the US mainland to wreak havoc.

So it's not quite fair to compare the two. Apples and oranges...

Cormac...

Cormac... wrote: »

Oh here we go, more hand-wringing nonsense.

If these kids had a couple of legs broken, I for one, wouldn't have a shred of pity for them.

So you would rule out any plea for mitigation based on severe or profound intellectual disability as "hand wringing nonsense"?

I wouldn't. It should be assessed, and the Court is the only place to do so, not some baying mob on the doorstep. Vigilantes have often beaten and even killed those with intellectual disabilities.

nxbyveromdwjpg

Do they know who it was?

If so why aren't they arrested and if not, why are they reporting it as teenagers as is that's a fact?

AudreyHepburn

Disgusting.....what exactly were these people hoping to achieve.

Any person that does this kind is clearly disturbed and needs psychiatric help.

petrolcan

Jon Straight Terrier wrote: »

Do they know who it was?

My guess is no. The reports are vague to say the least.

why are they reporting it as teenagers as is that's a fact?

Sensationalist headlines. They also report that the dog had 'his head was half cut off' when the picture posted show otherwise.

I believe there's more to this story not being told.

Faith+1

Only last month I had to have my Jack Russell put down (old age). I was heartbroken and to see what these evil b*stards have done just bewilders me.

Scary to think there's people like that in todays society.

J. Marston

First post about a dog being brutally killed. Sixth post about incentivised sterilisation of unemployed people.

After Hours, you never fail to disappoint.

Rhys Essien

I would love to know what Mayfield's famous son and dog lover Roy Keane makes of this.Reward of €5,000 now for any info.Rumours are that it was kids/teenagers.Hopefully one of the fcukers will let slip.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/reward-of-5-000-offered-to-find-killers-of-dog-in-cork-1.2320679

hatrickpatrick

If they're caught? Suspended sentences all around. Can almost guarantee it.

Animal torture should carry mandatory jail time, as should several other categories of offence.

Generic Dreadhead

Deleted User wrote: »

So you would rule out any plea for mitigation based on severe or profound intellectual disability as "hand wringing nonsense"?

I wouldn't. It should be assessed, and the Court is the only place to do so, not some baying mob on the doorstep. Vigilantes have often beaten and even killed those with intellectual disabilities.

What are you even on about?

These echo-chamber statements hold no water at all as it's merely you talking about Intellect Disabilities (For whatever reason, I don't know)

Ace Attorney

:mad: Absolute scum! i hate the thoughts of a poor defenceless animal being harmed. Poor little fella , I hope they get caught and get a lengthy jail sentence.

Old Jakey

Honestly these people should get a bullet in the back of the head.

Cormac...

Cormac... wrote: »

What are you even on about?

These echo-chamber statements hold no water at all as it's merely you talking about Intellect Disabilities (For whatever reason, I don't know)

You can't follow the issue?

It was pretty straightforward. Someone was going on about beating the perps. I pointed out that mob justice can overlook matters, for example if the perp had some intellectual disability (still with this?). I pointed out that frequently in the past people with questions over their ability to form the intent to do wrong were targetted by vigilantes and Court is the only forum to assess such matters.

Not sure how you didn't get the reason before, but now you know.

KungPao

Absolute cuunts.

I hope they are caught, jailed, and banned from ever having pets. I wouldn't ever trust these fckups with a child either.

Generic Dreadhead

Deleted User wrote: »

You can't follow the issue?

It was pretty straightforward. Someone was going on about beating the perps. I pointed out that mob justice can overlook matters, for example if the perp had some intellectual disability (still with this?). I pointed out that frequently in the past people with questions over their ability to form the intent to do wrong were targetted by vigilantes and Court is the only forum to assess such matters.

Not sure how you didn't get the reason before, but now you know.

Dunno what your obsession with bringing Intellectually Disabled people into this is, no one else is discussing it, just you, you keep bringing it up.

Women were burned at the stake by mobs for being witches in the past, and they even had a court case/trial. - shock horror, nothing vigilante about it

Why don't we start saying theres nothing wrong with this cause the ole Aztecs used to slit many animals throats back in the day to appease their sun-gods or whatever

You're talking garbage in my opinion.

J Mysterio

Boring username wrote: »

The US was also the target of Castro's crime waves, where he shipped Cuba's undesirables to the US mainland to wreak havoc.

LOL