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The 2015 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    MattB11 wrote: »
    Well done Tyrone and Mayo both well deserved wins, would love if both could cause upsets in the semi's

    You'd love if Tyrone caused a upset ? You did see there game today,didn't you ?

    To want them to win after there behaviour and sportsmanship,you must be a gambler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Just in the door ... another anti-climatic day. I was really disappointed in both of the losers today. Monaghan much like Kildare last week just don't seem to have a gameplan to take into Croker - very laborious and 1 dimensional. I thought Tyrone worked tirelessly cutting down their options all the same. they're a tough nut to crack once they build a lead - I've seen all the time wasting stuff before and like it or not they never gave Monaghan a chance to build momentum.

    I couldn't make my mind up beforehand on the Mayo/Donegal game .. 34 mins in and with them not at anywhere near full tilt they were still in it, then the goal ... it was a strange sensation but you could feel the air been sucked out of them, they came out 2nd half really skittish in their play. I was surprised at how well Mayo dominated the midfield area - it was baffling that Murphy was left inside when his influence was needed outfield. Neil McGee was a big loss (didn't see what happened) and wouldn't have altered the result. Fair play to Mayo tho they had all the answers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭MattB11


    Bret Hart wrote:
    You'd love if Tyrone caused a upset ? You did see there game today,didn't you ?

    Bret Hart wrote:
    To want them to win after there behaviour and sportsmanship,you must be a gambler.


    They are an under dog and playing Kerry Id guess there is quite a few who would like it too, regardless of behaviour and sportsmanship the better team progressed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,981 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    MattB11 wrote: »
    They are an under dog and playing Kerry Id guess there is quite a few who would like it too, regardless of behaviour and sportsmanship the better team progressed.

    Not impressed by the Tyrone antics today, while the better team may have won, hard and all as it is to say as a Corkman , I hope Kerry devour Tyrone and bate them out of Croker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭harpsman


    Monaghan were taught a lesson in football today and Mickey Harte proved his genius again. Its one thing doing it with great players but he has a pretty mediocre squad at the moment compared to the top sides. Apart from Cavanagh whos still a class act- in the footballing sense only obviously-more of that later.

    They were also taught a lesson in "cynicism" lets call it (i would use other words but no doubt one of the mods would be down on me) from the old masters, and i have to say ive very little sympathy for them. If the boot was on the other foot they would have been up to the same antics, so suck it up.

    BTW i hope there was no bad language out there as we know how sensitive poor wee sean is to that sort of thing-theyre very polte around Tyrone dont you know.

    But well done Tyrone anyway.

    In the 2nd game we knew Donegal would have to get the goal breaks like ladt year against Dublin and their missed chance coupled with the Mayo goal on the stroke of HT was curtains. Could watch OShea vs McGee all day long. Pity it was cut short-id call it a draw myself.

    Dont think Mayo have the quality to go all the way much as most neutrals would like to see it.

    Possibly end of an era for Donegal. Its been fun. Thanks lads.


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    Couldn't call the Mayo Donegal match beforehand. Hindsight is wonderful. I now know that their displays against Derry and Monaghan were not that of a great team playing below par and waiting to burst out, but probably their level this year. Disappointing given the calibre of wonderful players we became used to in recent years. It's a shame to see such talent bow out without a whimper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    harpsman wrote: »
    Monaghan were taught a lesson in football today and Mickey Harte proved his genius again. Its one thing doing it with great players but he has a pretty mediocre squad at the moment compared to the top sides. Apart from Cavanagh whos still a class act- in the footballing sense only obviously-more of that later.

    They were also taught a lesson in "cynicism" lets call it (i would use other words but no doubt one of the mods would be down on me) from the old masters, and i have to say ive very little sympathy for them. If the boot was on the other foot they would have been up to the same antics, so suck it up.

    BTW i hope there was no bad language out there as we know how sensitive poor wee sean is to that sort of thing-theyre very polte around Tyrone dont you know.

    But well done Tyrone anyway.

    In the 2nd game we knew Donegal would have to get the goal breaks like ladt year against Dublin and their missed chance coupled with the Mayo goal on the stroke of HT was curtains. Could watch OShea vs McGee all day long. Pity it was cut short-id call it a draw myself.

    Dont think Mayo have the quality to go all the way much as most neutrals would like to see it.

    Possibly end of an era for Donegal. Its been fun. Thanks lads.

    They haven't faced many top sides to even say that. The best side they faced was Donegal and they lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Thank God the GAA had the foresight to put this game onto a TV channel fvck all people watch so that the children of Ireland didn't have to watch that attack on that poor lads hair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭MattB11


    ShamoBuc wrote:
    Not impressed by the Tyrone antics today, while the better team may have won, hard and all as it is to say as a Corkman , I hope Kerry devour Tyrone and bate them out of Croker.

    That's fair enough I'm a Donegal man myself so I'm not too fond of Tyrone.....I could just never be for Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭harpsman


    edgecutter wrote: »
    They haven't faced many top sides to even say that. The best side they faced was Donegal and they lost.

    They lost to Donegal away from home and beat Monaghan who people were bigging up before today. But yes clearly theres 3 top sides who they haven't played. I fancy them to put it up to Kerry though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭edgecutter


    harpsman wrote: »
    They lost to Donegal away from home and beat Monaghan who people were bigging up before today. But yes clearly theres 3 top sides who they haven't played. I fancy them to put it up to Kerry though.

    Monaghan have a very small population, many of the young people don't stay in the county and continue to play due to lack of jobs.

    They won't get anywhere near Kerry without the same antics that they used today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭harpsman


    edgecutter wrote: »
    Monaghan have a very small population, many of the young people don't stay in the county and continue to play due to lack of jobs.

    They won't get anywhere near Kerry without the same antics that they used today.
    Well those antics wont be much use unless they re leading near the end. They did score 16 points in 56 minutes against a team who would be regarded as mean defenders so i think you have to admit thats pretty impressive.

    But look,time will tell-you might be right and Kerry will hammer em-we ll know in 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Not impressed by the Tyrone antics today, while the better team may have won, hard and all as it is to say as a Corkman , I hope Kerry devour Tyrone and bate them out of Croker.

    No you don't and as your a Corkman I highly doubt you want Kerry to win. Kerry have won enough. Most of their fans are delighted when Cork get whipped. Let the less successful counties taste some success.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,981 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Amprodude wrote: »
    No you don't and as your a Corkman I highly doubt you want Kerry to win. Kerry have won enough. Most of their fans are delighted when Cork get whipped. Let the less successful counties taste some success.

    I said I want Kerry to beat tyrone, because I do. Tyrone have given me enough reasons to want them to lose, nothing about 'successful' counties, no trophies given out the next day.
    I would be qute happy to see a Mayo team beat Kerry in the final though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Amprodude wrote: »
    No you don't and as your a Corkman I highly doubt you want Kerry to win. Kerry have won enough. Most of their fans are delighted when Cork get whipped. Let the less successful counties taste some success.

    It would be hard for any neutral to shout for Tyrone or want them to taste sucess the way they play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Ulster football showed up for what it is. Thuggery. A great advertisement.

    Hopefully with it on Sky not many children seen those games.

    Cream always rises lads. Well done Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    I said I want Kerry to beat tyrone, because I do. Tyrone have given me enough reasons to want them to lose, nothing about 'successful' counties, no trophies given out the next day.
    I would be qute happy to see a Mayo team beat Kerry in the final though.

    Dont get me wrong I'm not taking a pop shot at you or anything. Far from it.

    Funny thing about what you said is Mayo are never going to beat Kerry in a final and we all know that. This Tyrone team aren't any worse than Kerry team of 2014 with cynical play and again in 2015, donnacha o connor a fine example of this where he was concussed by o mahony and we all know there is no love lost there between the two. It goes back to the drawn game in 2008.

    What about the days of Jimmy Barry Murphy getting his accessories squeezed by Jimmy Denihan because he didn't want him to get the better of him. Same with the Meath football team of 1987-90, the stuff they got away would make you sick. Anyway what Tyrone did today is no different to what I described above. Not saying it's right by the way but people don't be long forgetting to take off the blinkers. Tyrone not the first or last team guilty of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    It would be hard for any neutral to shout for Tyrone or want them to taste sucess the way they play.

    So you want Dublin or Kerry to continue on winning top honours every year so? These teams aren't angels either. I can say the same for Cork by the way eventhough they are out. Every team in country guilty of it not just Tyrone. Still would like to see either Tyrone or Mayo win it this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    In fairness that Meath team will go down as one of the dirtiest ever, same with the Cork one.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭Patser


    I was out tonight in Dublin and was chatting to a group of random Tyrone fans. When I mentioned the furore about the red card and dive, they knew nothing about it. They'd only seen the game live and heard nothing of the building media storm. When I mentioned McGann they were more worried about when he jumped on a Monaghan's players back.

    Later when the gif of the red was available, they all quickly condemned it. Even going so far as to calling for suspensions. So fair play to them.

    Will be interesting to see If Harte offers a defence for the dive or is more up to condemning it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    So in the past 5 seasons (20 games) only twice has a provincial champion lost a quarter final.

    And on both occasions that has been Monaghan losing to Tyrone.

    And to be honest watching them yesterday they seemed to have learned nothing from the previous beating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    I didn't think Tyrone played any meaner than other counties yesterday. There's a bit of a rivalry between Tyrone and Monaghan as well, which has to be taken into account. In other provinces, the top dogs really only have one rival (Kerry/Cork, Dublin/Meath, Mayo/Galway), whereas Tyrone have local rivalries with Donegal, Monaghan, Derry and Armagh. I'm not surprised they play on the edge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Magill46


    2 years ago when Sean Cavanagh pulled down Conor (or Ciaran if you're Colm O'Rourke or Eugene McGee) McManus, although a lot of people got on their high horse about it, I and many other Monaghan people just shrugged our shoulders, knowing that if it was Dick v McMurray, we'd expect Dick to do the exact same.
    The problem with McCann yesterday was it wasn't a desperate act to keep his team in the lead. It was a cowardly act of a spiv. If the Tyrone County Board had any decency they would suspend McCann but the Tyrone County Board don't have any decency no more than the Kerry County Board who stood by Aidan O'Mahony after his disgraceful behaviour v Cork in 2008.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Wexford96


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    The name they were facing? Tyrone you mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,692 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    So in the past 5 seasons (20 games) only twice has a provincial champion lost a quarter final.

    And on both occasions that has been Monaghan losing to Tyrone.

    And to be honest watching them yesterday they seemed to have learned nothing from the previous beating.

    Wow , hadnt reaslised that .
    The disappointing thing ( one of them) about yesterday is i really thought we had stepped up to handling the pressure of expectation this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Haven't been able to watch a replay but I would dispute that the game was over when Tyrone started their nonsense, Monaghan got it back to a 3 point game and very nearly scored a goal late on.
    The puke tactics saw Tyrone through in fairness not football.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Yes. An inferiority complex is very hard to shake off in any sport.

    I have an inferiority complex....but I don't think it's a very good one ..


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