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  • #3662
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    Got €4.25 base price on Tuesday. 2 of them over age but ignored. Mostly R's but probably 3 U's on the Grid

    Was that 4.25 agreed from last week. Didn't think it is to be got this week.

    Heifers are 4.25 but not steers


  • #3663
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    orm0nd wrote: »
    heard larry has close on 30k cattle booked into b&b, would that be possible or just bulls1th high stool talk ?

    Processors have not being active in the store market to my understanding for last few months. What he may have access to is those famous hereford calves that he bought early last year. These are the ones that he sold to farmers after the raising of them turned into a disaster. When selling them AIBP group gave invidual farmers gaurantee's on price. However what amount are there is questionable dowubt if 30K of them. There was substancial calf losses is my understanding during the rearing period and that is why they were sold on at 3 months. He did not venture into the calf rearing business this year.

    It is unlikly that these would be available in large numbers before Christmass and it may well be later that that.


  • #3664
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Processors have not being active in the store market to my understanding for last few months. What he may have access to is those famous hereford calves that he bought early last year. These are the ones that he sold to farmers after the raising of them turned into a disaster. When selling them AIBP group gave invidual farmers gaurantee's on price. However what amount are there is questionable dowubt if 30K of them. There was substancial calf losses is my understanding during the rearing period and that is why they were sold on at 3 months. He did not venture into the calf rearing business this year.

    It is unlikly that these would be available in large numbers before Christmass and it may well be later that that.

    Your understanding is incorrect.

    Grass cattle are what it about at this time of year. Contracted agents have cattle of there own on grass at any time for any day they run short. Price will be 4.10 next week. Hopefully will not dip below 4.00 mid October .

    not going to go up from here till after cattle are housed. The price is a dizzy height for this time of year thanks to the sterling strength and anyone complaining after holding cattle they could have killed two weeks ago only have themselves to blame.

    .20 cent is 70eur on a 350 kg carcass and approx 1 months good thrive to make it up in the event the animal has potential to do so and the price doesn't fall further.. Fat stock need a lot of energy to stand still..

    But someday I hope to no longer be a soft seller "throwing cattle" and become one of these hardened sellers unaffected by the need to turn over cattle to turn money in order to make money!


  • #3665
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Was that 4.25 agreed from last week. Didn't think it is to be got this week.

    Heifers are 4.25 but not steers

    Agreed last Thursday evening, had to have 15 bullock too, nothing less. Could only get €4.15 if booked in this week.
    They are still looking for cattle while pulling the price.


  • #3666
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Talking to an agent, his words, ''weather will play a big part over next couple weeks, they are not being flooded with cattle just getting enough and not a lot backed up yet'', and he continued, '' getting too many cattle will be as bad as too little for them as if kill remains like last years kill cattle will be very scarce by September''.
    What are the numbers looking like for finished cattle next year?


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  • #3667
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    We Are price takers not price makers.but I think price will get better if the weather as I have already said.I said that the price would drop 2 weeks ago.soft sellers?


  • #3668
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    just had a phone call from a fellow who's in the queue @ Ennis mart, huge entry of stock it appears , cattle starting to move off the land a lot earlier than norm.


  • #3669
    AP2014
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    orm0nd wrote: »
    just had a phone call from a fellow who's in the queue @ Ennis mart, huge entry of stock it appears , cattle starting to move off the land a lot earlier than norm.

    Good stuff, ease the glut of cattle in Oct/Nov.


  • #3670
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    AP2014 wrote: »
    Good stuff, ease the glut of cattle in Oct/Nov.

    Could be a once off depending on the weather . If it came good they might hold awhile longer.
    It's hard to know what way they will be selling towards Christmas


  • #3671
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Your understanding is incorrect.

    Grass cattle are what it about at this time of year. Contracted agents have cattle of there own on grass at any time for any day they run short. Price will be 4.10 next week. Hopefully will not dip below 4.00 mid October .

    not going to go up from here till after cattle are housed. The price is a dizzy height for this time of year thanks to the sterling strength and anyone complaining after holding cattle they could have killed two weeks ago only have themselves to blame.

    .20 cent is 70eur on a 350 kg carcass and approx 1 months good thrive to make it up in the event the animal has potential to do so and the price doesn't fall further.. Fat stock need a lot of energy to stand still..

    But someday I hope to no longer be a soft seller "throwing cattle" and become one of these hardened sellers unaffected by the need to turn over cattle to turn money in order to make money!



    First off I am accusing no one of being a soft seller. And yes 20c/kg is about 70/head on finished cattle. And again you are correct it is about grass cattle this time of year.

    However it is also about lad chasing the 30 month age limit anf factory's using it to there advantage. As I saw in the Indo last week I think one lad made the point that not all cattle make that 12c/kg. In fact less that 50% of cattle slaughtered get the QA allowance.

    It is all about numbers now. Last week if the Dept of Agri is to be believe we killed 250 more than 2014. Also if the CMMS is to be believed last March there was 100K less cattle in the slaughter system. If Board Bia and the department is to be believed there is 40K more steers slaughtered than this time last year.

    If I remember right last year autumn kill was fairly static at around 30K/week. The real kill last year as well as this year was in the May/June period. Now years ago Bill Clinton made the point about the economy I make the same point it will be about numbers. If the kill drops to 27/28K prices will strenghten.

    It is unlikly that kill numbers will fall this week or next but it will happen. The only risk/variable is cow's. Kill has been low all year as dairy men dry off will they cull at a large rate. If they do will it higher than last year. If they do cull will they sent straight to the factory or will they sell through the mart.

    Most years prices vary from August-November. Last year the Factory's had it all there own way as lads killed young cattle off grass. However the numbers are against them this year. Yes I count the numbers when I buy, when I borrow, when I invest, I do not always get it right but I have not gone bust yet.


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  • #3672
    Hill Bill
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    Quoted 4.15, underage bullocks, going early next week.


  • #3673
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    orm0nd wrote: »
    just had a phone call from a fellow who's in the queue @ Ennis mart, huge entry of stock it appears , cattle starting to move off the land a lot earlier than norm.

    I'm not surprised, Always the same after a few wet weeks.


  • #3674
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    She's for the factory in the morning, how do ye reckon she'll do?
    A bit light for my liking on the rib but she's gotten overfat at the back end.


  • #3675
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    What are they giving for R grade cows?


  • #3676
    simx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Kovu wrote: »
    She's for the factory in the morning, how do ye reckon she'll do?
    A bit light for my liking on the rib but she's gotten overfat at the back end.

    what price ya get? grading not as important with cows as flat price, reckon shell be fine regarding fat score anyway


  • #3677
    locha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭locha


    Hill Bill wrote: »
    Quoted 4.15, underage bullocks, going early next week.

    What part of the country is this in? Liffey quoted me 4.10 kill next week - Kepak are to get back to me on 4.15. Got 4.20 this week.


  • #3678
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    simx wrote: »
    what price ya get? grading not as important with cows as flat price, reckon shell be fine regarding fat score anyway

    I haven't asked the haulier yet, she's making up part of a load so I'm hoping it's a good one :)
    He's a decent enough fella and I've known him for ten years so I don't think he'll do me over.


  • #3679
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Any idea what 2 AA heifers born last spring would make ij mart atm.
    Roughly 450 kg +


  • #3680
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,684 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Any idea what 2 AA heifers born last spring would make ij mart atm.
    Roughly 450 kg +

    450 kg would be a savage weight .950 maby plus .beef men in the ring have lost the plot !!


  • #3681
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,713 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    got 1080 for 500kg aax heifer a few weeks ago


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  • #3682
    Greengrass1
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    450 kg would be a savage weight .950 maby plus .beef men in the ring have lost the plot !!

    Maidens are 400av and these 2 look bigger any way.
    Do they need to be blooded?


  • #3683
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Maidens are 400av and these 2 look bigger any way.
    Do they need to be blooded?

    Not if they're under 24mths


  • #3684
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Kovu wrote: »
    She's for the factory in the morning, how do ye reckon she'll do?
    A bit light for my liking on the rib but she's gotten overfat at the back end.

    R-3= I'd guess


  • #3685
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    R-3= I'd guess

    R=4+ She killed out 400kg.


    <<edit I'm wrong!! I either heard her wrong or le lady read it wrong!!>>


  • #3686
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Any prices for next week yet


  • #3687
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Any prices for next week yet

    4.10 bullocks. 4.20 heifers. Slaney. Liffey meats hacketstown.


  • #3688
    Cassidy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Cassidy2


    Now is the time to TRY and dig in.The weather is looking good for all next week.


  • #3689
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Cassidy2 wrote: »
    Now is the time to TRY and dig in.The weather is looking good for all next week.

    Dig into what? The turf??:D


  • #3690
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    Kovu wrote: »
    R=4+ She killed out 450kg.

    Serious weight for a cow, she doesn't look that big in the pics. I was thinking if she killed out at 350 kgs she'd be doing well.


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  • #3691
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    tanko wrote: »
    Serious weight for a cow, she doesn't look that big in the pics. I was thinking if she killed out at 350 kgs she'd be doing well.

    I had fun trying to find her today, we were told the wrong factory and I had a very abrupt phone call with the first factory.

    Few guesses and wrong ends later, I got her in Ballyduff and the lady told me she KO'd at that and how she graded. If the paperwork is wrong (or if the office lady is, I'll let you know) If it's correct, I'll photograph the document!!


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