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Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    I wonder if a number of houses in an area will end up running duct themselves to a point which Eircom has existing duct (without damaging public footpaths etc.) would the likes of Eircom utilise it?

    For those of us in the deepest parts of the country - I wonder how realistic this might be in the future to have a similar scheme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21442348
    Should be no need for this here if the NBP gets moved ahead.

    In truth I would have my doubts if such a scheme would work in Ireland anyway ;)
    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    To be honest, I don't hold much hope of the NBP having any major impact to those who would ideally want a 1Gbps connection :) and not a 30~40Mbps connection which seems to be the minimum/'at least' that plan calls for.

    I met Barry Forde from B4RN back in April and the man is inspirational. I'll tell you, if the NBP gets nixed by the Sinn Fein + 3,000 Water Protest TD coalition :rolleyes:, I'm going to see about doing a B4RN scheme where I live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,715 ✭✭✭Nollog


    Did you all get the email from eircom today too?

    http://i.imgur.com/Up6kip6.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    Correction: I did get it, stupid email filter had it blocked.


    Didn't get that email :( DId you just register or did you register a while ago?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    Did you all get the email from eircom today too?

    http://i.imgur.com/Up6kip6.png

    @/\/ollog got it alright, my guess it's just promotional garbage.

    It seems a bit vague - as in "we're checking" - how long does it take to check I registered a few weeks ago and why are they sending me an email telling me they're "checking" shouldn't they have sent that automatically after registering?
    Maybe by 2020 we'll have up to a 30mb connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    Did you all get the email from eircom today too?

    http://i.imgur.com/Up6kip6.png

    Yes it's the acknowledgement of the expression of interest we sent in to eircom.

    I'll not be holding my breath as I feel most of us will be by-passed as we do not have a ducted connection to the house.:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    PeadarB wrote: »
    Yes it's the acknowledgement of the expression of interest we sent in to eircom.

    I'll not be holding my breath as I feel most of us will be by-passed as we do not have a ducted connection to the house.:mad:


    I'm almost certain I have a ducted connection. Piece of hydrodare comes up right beside my front door with current telephone cable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    Deagol wrote: »
    I'm almost certain I have a ducted connection. Piece of hydrodare comes up right beside my front door with current telephone cable.
    Your'e elected as long as it's not fed from distrubution pole!!! To be honest my reasoning relating to my situation, is based solely on the fact that they did not run the blue sub-duct from the eircom junction box to my pole, a distance of some 30 meters or so. It was hard to see the sub-duct in that box and to be told they were not doing the poles at this stage. To say I'm totally cheesed off is an understatement. To add insult to injury I discovered today that some genius has filled the ESB mini-pillar box with stones and tarmaced over the whole lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    PeadarB wrote: »
    Your'e elected as long as it's not fed from distrubution pole!!! .

    I live in an early 80's estate. There are no poles anywhere near me and P&T manholes everwhere. So my presumption is that cables come through ducting from the cabinet, through to those manholes, and the ducting to each house runs from them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    Deagol wrote: »
    I live in an early 80's estate. There are no poles anywhere near me and P&T manholes everwhere. So my presumption is that cables come through ducting from the cabinet, through to those manholes, and the ducting to each house runs from them?

    The older estates around me here in Letterkenny have the old concrete P&T inspection boxes or whatever you call them. The houses in those estates are guaranteed FTTH as MCS ran sub-duct and fibre through them. Some needed clearing and re-building but in the main they were sound.

    There is one of those P&T boxes at the bottom of my "sub-ductless" pole for all the bloody good it's doing!!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,715 ✭✭✭Nollog


    PeadarB wrote: »
    Yes it's the acknowledgement of the expression of interest we sent in to eircom.

    I'll not be holding my breath as I feel most of us will be by-passed as we do not have a ducted connection to the house.:mad:

    I saw some cables coming up from the ground into the apartment hole, and don't see any poles around, so assume I'm in whenever they decide to go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    PeadarB wrote: »
    The older estates around me here in Letterkenny have the old concrete P&T inspection boxes or whatever you call them. The houses in those estates are guaranteed FTTH as MCS ran sub-duct and fibre through them. Some needed clearing and re-building but in the main they were sound.

    There is one of those P&T boxes at the bottom of my "sub-ductless" pole for all the bloody good it's doing!!! :mad:

    I feel for you dude, I'd be (might still be), pissed as hell if having had gig BB dangled in front of my nose only to have have it denied for 30mtrs of ducting.

    I think I'd be down to HSS for some cones, a road saw and a jackhammer ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭trompele


    Hi, Wexford has now been enabled with 1000/250 profile.
    http://imgur.com/GzAHuWJ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭domeld


    Propbably first customer in Wexford upgraded!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    trompele wrote: »
    Hi, Wexford has now been enabled with 1000/250 profile.
    http://imgur.com/GzAHuWJ
    So the new age has begun. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    trompele wrote: »
    Hi, Wexford has now been enabled with 1000/250 profile.
    http://imgur.com/GzAHuWJ
    Are you in the original Wexford FTTH area? Any idea of costs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭trompele


    Yes it is my friend not me. He is in the original FTTH. He pays 38€ for first few months then 58.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭naughto


    How long of contract?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭domeld


    18 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,712 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    trompele wrote: »
    Yes it is my friend not me. He is in the original FTTH. He pays 38€ for first few months then 58.

    that's the same price as VDSL. What's the point of the 300 and 150 profiles then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,109 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    trompele wrote: »
    Hi, Wexford has now been enabled with 1000/250 profile.
    http://imgur.com/GzAHuWJ

    According to their wholesale pricing the profile was 1000/100, changed to 1000/250 now?

    The Proposed Wholesale Bitstream Price List (FTTH) 28th Feb indicates the wholesale price for 1000/100 is €35.50 effective from 31/8/15, will we see a different retail price from that date I wonder?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    The Cush wrote: »
    According to their wholesale pricing the profile was 1000/100, changed to 1000/250 now?

    The Proposed Wholesale Bitstream Price List (FTTH) 28th Feb indicates the wholesale price for 1000/100 is €35.50 effective from 31/8/15, will we see a different retail price from that date I wonder?

    That's plus line rental plus mark up plus vat I presume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,712 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    jca wrote: »
    That's plus line rental plus mark up plus vat I presume.

    that's the wholesale rental price for broadband only - phone services are a separate item still requiring a copper line (unless the retailer wants to provide their own VOIP service, which many will), but you don't have to take traditional line rental if you don't want it (it's already the same for VDSL).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,789 ✭✭✭jd


    The Cush wrote: »
    According to their wholesale pricing the profile was 1000/100, changed to 1000/250 now?

    The Proposed Wholesale Bitstream Price List (FTTH) 28th Feb indicates the wholesale price for 1000/100 is €35.50 effective from 31/8/15, will we see a different retail price from that date I wonder?
    That's a trial. Commercial launch will be 1G/100M.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    loyatemu wrote: »
    that's the wholesale rental price for broadband only - phone services are a separate item still requiring a copper line (unless the retailer wants to provide their own VOIP service, which many will), but you don't have to take traditional line rental if you don't want it (it's already the same for VDSL).

    Yes - €35.50 is the wholesale rate for standalone 1G fibre broadband. If you already have a PSTN service and you want to keep it the fibre broadband will be an additional €21.98 (Wholesale).

    You can normally add about €20 to come up with the retail price. Therefore I would expect 1G FTTH broadband only to be available for less than €60 per month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,715 ✭✭✭Nollog


    trompele wrote: »
    Yes it is my friend not me. He is in the original FTTH. He pays 38€ for first few months then 58.

    That's not as bad a price as I was expecting given the €100 we saw from whatever that wireless company were

    Lucky friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,109 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    That's not as bad a price as I was expecting given the €100 we saw from whatever that wireless company were

    That may only be the trial price, the actual FTTH wholesale price doesn't take effect until the end of August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,109 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=95836616#post95836616

    In that post I linked to eircom wholesale's Proposed Wholesale Bitstream Price List (FTTH) dated 28th Feb which indicated the proposed FTTH monthly wholesale pricing and ONT installation charge of €150 with effect from the 31st Aug.

    The new Bitstream Price List v7.28 dated 25th June has no reference to FTTH monthly wholesale pricing or ONT installation charge of €150. The NTU/ONT eircom installation charge (POTS & standalone) is listed at €27.50 with effect from 20th May.

    Has the separate FTTH wholesale pricing been dropped, which would explain the pricing indicated previously or will it reappear in a future revision of the price list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭billyduk


    rebeve wrote: »
    I`m in the middle of Rochestown and I`m lucky to be getting 5mb .Joke of a company

    Same. Direct fed to the Douglas exchange. Haven't even bothered to upgrade to eFibre as the maximum "speed" they say i'll get is 7MB and that will likely average at what I am getting now. My line passes 3 cabs on the Rochestown Road en route to the exchange. They'd actually save on maintenance costs by disconnecting me from the Exchange and piping me into the cab at the end of my road instead of running 1.5KM of cable further down the road to Douglas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    billyduk wrote: »
    Same. Direct fed to the Douglas exchange. Haven't even bothered to upgrade to eFibre as the maximum "speed" they say i'll get is 7MB and that will likely average at what I am getting now. My line passes 3 cabs on the Rochestown Road en route to the exchange. They'd actually save on maintenance costs by disconnecting me from the Exchange and piping me into the cab at the end of my road instead of running 1.5KM of cable further down the road to Douglas.

    Wouldnt change the POTS loop length.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭billyduk


    ED E wrote: »
    Wouldnt change the POTS loop length.

    How would connecting to looped fibre half a K away not improve my copper to the exchange speeds? Genuine question as I thought that running copper 500M to a fibre point instead of 1500M to a fibre point would make a marked difference.


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