Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

loyatemu · 20-07-2015 09:27AM

I've seen "Ultrafast" advertised in Greystones as well - ad is on (irony alert) the only remaining phonebox in town.

PeadarB · 20-07-2015 03:58PM

We have seen eircoms wholesale prices. I wonder how long we will have to wait to see Vodafone/Siro's. These will be critical in making a choice who to go with.

SpaceTime · 20-07-2015 04:15PM

They're advertising on RedFM in Cork now with Douglas and Carrigaline mentioned:

http://www.eircom.net/ultrafast/

AlmightyCushion · 20-07-2015 04:29PM

It's a pity they haven't released retail pricing for this yet.

DoYouEvenLift · 20-07-2015 05:28PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

It's a pity they haven't released retail pricing for this yet.

This lol, what's the point getting people to show interest when it's possible half of them might say "no thanks" as soon as they see the pricing for it

Nollog · 20-07-2015 07:14PM

I asked them on liveperson after seeing your post today, Aimee said it's not out yet so there's no price.

Kinda bad to not advise of price before launch, but I guess you'll find out before you switch anyway.

murphaph · 20-07-2015 09:04PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

This lol, what's the point getting people to show interest when it's possible half of them might say "no thanks" as soon as they see the pricing for it

Because then they have information that tells them that the product is attractive to these people but the price point is not and they can reconsider their pricing strategy.

ECO_Mental · 21-07-2015 02:50PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

They're advertising on RedFM in Cork now with Douglas and Carrigaline mentioned:

http://www.eircom.net/ultrafast/

Yep just talked to an Eircom lad 5 minutes ago in a manhole and he was pulling fibre in Clarkes wood mount oval for FTTH said they nearly every thing pulled atm so should be in the next couple of months. ðŸ˜Š

Nyum Nyum · 21-07-2015 05:10PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

Fibre to the home will improve your 2mbps connection speed. You'll go from 2 to 1,000 mbps when it comes to your area.

Probably a stupid question (

) but how far will Eircom venture from the exchange with FTTH? I know there's a 2km limit or so with eFibre - but what about this? I think I'm about 4km from the exchange (in Macroom)

The Cush · 21-07-2015 05:16PM

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

Probably a stupid question ( ) but how far will Eircom venture from the exchange with FTTH? I know there's a 2km limit or so with eFibre - but what about this? I think I'm about 4km from the exchange (in Macroom)

I read somewhere its up to 20km. I'd guess rollout cost could be the limiting factor to remote areas with FTTH rather than distance from the exchange.

Nollog · 21-07-2015 06:10PM

http://www.slideshare.net/mansoor_gr8/gpon-fundamentals
Each fibre can go 20 KM with GPON

What Eircom choose to do is another story though.

PeadarB · 21-07-2015 06:23PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

http://www.slideshare.net/mansoor_gr8/gpon-fundamentals
Each fibre can go 20 KM with GPON

What Eircom choose to do is another story though.

They will take the easiest route as always and to be honest I can't see them going out of their way to facilitate anyone, especially if it means incurring any more expense than is necessary.

Spoke to one of the KN people today who said that eircom do not plan to run FTTH from poles at this point. It seems that those estates with pre-existing ducts will be done first. There will be a wait for me now to see if Vodafone will get here first. If they do they win. :mad:
So much for Belcarra and FTTH going from pole to pole...

murphaph · 21-07-2015 07:08PM

PeadarB wrote: »

They will take the easiest route as always and to be honest I can't see them going out of their way to facilitate anyone, especially if it means incurring any more expense than is necessary.

They're in the middle of a multi billion € enhancement of their network??

PeadarB · 21-07-2015 07:15PM

murphaph wrote: »

They're in the middle of a multi billion € enhancement of their network??

When your baloon is burst you're inclined to get a wee bit pissed.

I've attemped repeatedly to find how they plan to deliver FTTH to the likes of me in the middle of an urban cluster without underground delivery. It will come eventually and I am the first to congratulate eircom on their respective endeavours since the e-fibre rollout. It has been nothing short of miraculous.

ED E · 21-07-2015 07:21PM

SND, CAV and WST ftth were all UG ducting as far as I know. Belcarra was the rural trial, presumably wind damage was still a factor for it if the above source is in the know.

PeadarB · 21-07-2015 07:41PM

ED E wrote: »

SND, CAV and WST ftth were all UG ducting as far as I know. Belcarra was the rural trial, presumably wind damage was still a factor for it if the above source is in the know.

The rate they are moving here in LK at the minute would nearly frighten you. The MCS crowd started with the micro-duct, then moved to pulling fibre through it. Starting at LKY1_038 they have moved through the town and were at LKY1_025 today having been at 026 last week. KN and eircom crews were hot on their heels today.

I'm sure good well armored light fibre will be as resilient as the old copper pairs in my situation. The longevity of the poles might be problematic.

Time to share ducting infrastructure I think. :rolleyes:

PeadarB · 22-07-2015 12:38PM

ED E wrote: »

SND, CAV and WST ftth were all UG ducting as far as I know. Belcarra was the rural trial, presumably wind damage was still a factor for it if the above source is in the know.

Spoke with two eircom techies who were actually splicing fibre into the new junction connections at LKY01_002 (top of New Line Road) this morning and LKY1_001 this afternoon. Seems my fears were correct and eircom do not currently have plans to service properties who are getting their present connection via the older distribution poles. It seems that FTTH will only be run in this instance to those properties that have an underground connection in situ. Eircom in Letterkenny had made e-fibre available to 11210 premises. Mine is delivered from a distribution pole behind the house, which also connects 9 other houses to e-fibre, from LKY1_005, almost 200 meters away. Within 85 metres of my distribution pole are two other distribution poles serving another 20 or so houses in adjacent estates and so on for the majority of houses served by LKY1_005, on the opposite side of the road from the cab. It occurs to me that unless eircom provide pole mounted fibre drops they are going to lose a serious amount of customers to Vodafone/Siro who have covered estates like mine with underground ducting. A lot of properties, including mine, will not be connected in this scerario at this time.

Now where is that concrete saw... and my mini JCB...

notahappycamper · 23-07-2015 07:11AM

PeadarB wrote: »

When your baloon is burst you're inclined to get a wee bit pissed.

I've attemped repeatedly to find how they plan to deliver FTTH to the likes of me in the middle of an urban cluster without underground delivery. It will come eventually and I am the first to congratulate eircom on their respective endeavours since the e-fibre rollout. It has been nothing short of miraculous.

I'm also served by an overhead DP (Clontarf) not even on the roll out list so looking like 2020-2025 before it reaches me?!

rebeve · 23-07-2015 09:52PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

They're advertising on RedFM in Cork now with Douglas and Carrigaline mentioned:

http://www.eircom.net/ultrafast/

I`m in the middle of Rochestown and I`m lucky to be getting 5mb .Joke of a company

irishgeo · 24-07-2015 11:28AM

Eircom vans doing work outside manor village estate in Castlebar.

mobil 222 · 25-07-2015 08:34PM

PeadarB wrote: »

Spoke with two eircom techies who were actually splicing fibre into the new junction connections at LKY01_002 (top of New Line Road) this morning and LKY1_001 this afternoon. Seems my fears were correct and eircom do not currently have plans to service properties who are getting their present connection via the older distribution poles. It seems that FTTH will only be run in this instance to those properties that have an underground connection in situ. Eircom in Letterkenny had made e-fibre available to 11210 premises. Mine is delivered from a distribution pole behind the house, which also connects 9 other houses to e-fibre, from LKY1_005, almost 200 meters away. Within 85 metres of my distribution pole are two other distribution poles serving another 20 or so houses in adjacent estates and so on for the majority of houses served by LKY1_005, on the opposite side of the road from the cab. It occurs to me that unless eircom provide pole mounted fibre drops they are going to lose a serious amount of customers to Vodafone/Siro who have covered estates like mine with underground ducting. A lot of properties, including mine, will not be connected in this scerario at this time.

Now where is that concrete saw... and my mini JCB...

In sligo they have ran subduct to distribution poles but has now stopped due
to problems with the type of duct been used.

PeadarB · 25-07-2015 10:15PM

mobil 222 wrote: »

In sligo they have ran subduct to distribution poles but has now stopped due
to problems with the type of duct been used.

The original black bundle that contained no more, usually, than 10 pairs of copper, is only slightly larger in diameter than that fairly light blue sub-duct they are using for the fibre core.

I would expect that if they wished they could easily accommodate the fibre alongside the copper bundle if they so wished. i don't know what size duct runs from the junction box to the pole but given the small diameter of the fibre run it should not be a problem. It really pisses me off to think that the fibre is only 30 meters from my pole.

I'm sure that in excess of 60% + of connections for e-fibre are served via pole drops in Letterkenny. That is a serious number of connections to by-pass in this FTTH rollout. If I'm missed now I'll just wait for Siro in any case. I hope they prove me wrong. Credit where it's due though, eircom are forging ahead in the town with FTTH.

ECO_Mental · 28-07-2015 02:56PM

Out side my door today (mount oval, rochestown) pulling fibre

they said they are flat out working on it and they are connecting it all up at the moment as well.

Rock on can't wait

KeRbDoG · 31-07-2015 12:17PM

PeadarB wrote: »

Now where is that concrete saw... and my mini JCB...

I wonder if a number of houses in an area will end up running duct themselves to a point which Eircom has existing duct (without damaging public footpaths etc.) would the likes of Eircom utilise it?

For those of us in the deepest parts of the country - I wonder how realistic this might be in the future to have a similar scheme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21442348

Johnboy1951 · 31-07-2015 01:41PM

KeRbDoG wrote: »

I wonder if a number of houses in an area will end up running duct themselves to a point which Eircom has existing duct (without damaging public footpaths etc.) would the likes of Eircom utilise it?

For those of us in the deepest parts of the country - I wonder how realistic this might be in the future to have a similar scheme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21442348

Should be no need for this here if the NBP gets moved ahead.

In truth I would have my doubts if such a scheme would work in Ireland anyway

KeRbDoG · 31-07-2015 01:48PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Should be no need for this here if the NBP gets moved ahead.

In truth I would have my doubts if such a scheme would work in Ireland anyway

To be honest, I don't hold much hope of the NBP having any major impact to those who would ideally want a 1Gbps connection

and not a 30~40Mbps connection which seems to be the minimum/'at least' that plan calls for.

SpaceTime · 31-07-2015 02:05PM

I'm just wondering about mine actually. Our line comes on underground to a pole at the end of the front garden then over the garden and into the attic.

I'd happily enough arrange to get duct laid to the phone pole or wherever they want it as I don't really want the line crossing the garden anyway as there are a lot of trees.

I've been told that we could see FTTH rollout soon as we're in Cork City centre almost and all of the area is properly ducted (late 90s rebuild of the local network)

KeRbDoG · 31-07-2015 02:11PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

I'm just wondering about mine actually. Our line comes on underground to a pole at the end of the front garden then over the garden and into the attic.

I'd happily enough arrange to get duct laid to the phone pole or wherever they want it as I don't really want the line crossing the garden anyway as there are a lot of trees.

I've been told that we could see FTTH rollout soon as we're in Cork City centre almost and all of the area is properly ducted (late 90s rebuild of the local network)

I'd follow Eircom's 'Single House Development' guidelines to get from your house to your boundary at least

SpaceTime · 31-07-2015 02:14PM

I'd say the most problematic areas might be where the lines are direct burried. That's definitely the case with some 1970s and 80s estates.

The lines seem to be ducted in the street but the final drops seem to be just burried under the lawn.

We had a house in Dublin where an armoured phone cable was under the lawn as we accidentally dug it up when I was a kid.

That house was built around 1982.

Older one off houses in urban areas often seem to be done with the aerial drop from pole even though the local network is underground.

Post 1990s buildings are much more standardised in terms of how services get in.

SpaceTime · 31-07-2015 02:18PM

KeRbDoG wrote: »

I'd follow Eircom's 'Single House Development' guidelines to get from your house to your boundary at least

I won't do anything until I see what they're doing.

If I'm landscaping or doing major work i would consider it though as the ducting would be running across grass. Should be very easy.

Most CATV lines in my area come in overground along walls just clipped under the capstones !

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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