The 2015 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-08-2015 04:48PM

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munster87 · 02-08-2015 04:48PM

Not doing too badly against a top 6 ulster team

STB. · 02-08-2015 04:54PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Absolutely.

You would swear the same team won the All Ireland every year. Oh hang on thats hurling.

Realistic expectations please Joe.

Red Kev · 02-08-2015 05:02PM

How about this: Have the provincials as usual. Top 24 teams in 8 groups of 3, playing in a mini league format, so every team plays twice and gets a guaranteed home and away match. Top team in each group goes through to a QF.

Bottom 8 (9) teams play off in a different tournament. (Not sure if you would have NY in it unless they want to play away).

So how do you determine the 24? Maybe 16 from the provincial QF's and the next 8 could be determined on a mix of league position, average of points scored in league/provincials or a couple on a fair play award for least average amount of bookings in the league/provincials.

Seeding for provincial finalists in top of the group, then losing SF's, then the other 8 qualifiers.

On a slightly different note in the present system I think counties should be given the option of playing QF's outside of Croker if they both agree. Donegal v Galway and Sligo v Tyrone would get more in if they were in Castlebar, Cavan or elsewhere.

Cosmo Kramer · 02-08-2015 05:02PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Anything constructive to add to the discussion Pat or do you think the system is spot on the way it is?

keano25 · 02-08-2015 05:03PM

Should Killian Young have gotten a black card for the drag down in the Kildare game?

techdiver · 02-08-2015 05:04PM

STB. wrote: »

Absolutely.

You would swear the same team won the All Ireland every year. Oh hang on thats hurling.

Realistic expectations please Joe.

That's not the point. It's not about who wins the all ireland, it's about the amount of one sided matches and the turgid viewing it is. The status quo is not working.

I've been GAA mad since as far back as I can remember, but I've never been more disinterested than I have been in recent years.

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-08-2015 05:04PM

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K-9 · 02-08-2015 05:04PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Ulster has a lot of teams that compete for the Ulster championship, there is no doubt that it's competitive in this regards. However Kerry, Dublin and Mayo would be most people's probable finalists.

In fact there's a good chance that there will only be one team from each province in the semi finals and that whatever Ulster team it is will be the least fancied!

Similar stuff was said last year.

It's wrong to call it when the Q/F's aren't even over yet, but it looks like there is a top 5, Cork have gone back a level.

Fireball07 · 02-08-2015 05:08PM

Dublin have fair killed this off now.

Jayop · 02-08-2015 05:09PM

Very nice to see the dubs in the hill applauding Fermanagh points.

Classy

Wang King · 02-08-2015 05:11PM

keano25 wrote: »

Should Killian Young have gotten a black card for the drag down in the Kildare game?

Probably should have, ref was as shell shocked as the Kildare team though

Jayop · 02-08-2015 05:11PM

And then the ruin it by booing a free taker.

STB. · 02-08-2015 05:14PM

techdiver wrote: »

That's not the point. It's not about who wins the all ireland, it's about the amount of one sided matches and the turgid viewing it is. The status quo is not working.

I've been GAA mad since as far back as I can remember, but I've never been more disinterested than I have been in recent years.

The championship has served us well for 100 years. The counties who are not consistently performing need to step up.

What these dreamers are thinking up is only short of handicapping the the stronger Division one teams to play with 13 players.

There have been plenty of unpredictable results in the football this year. Anyone who has fallen out with love with the game is not watching the games this year and is moaning when the backdoor teams end up drawn against the stronger teams who have won their provincials.

K-9 · 02-08-2015 05:15PM

Say Your Number wrote: »

It's scary how Kerry can give a decent team like this an awful beating without even getting out of second gear.

It's worse than Sligo Mayo now

Kildare are a Division 3 team who got found out badly today. Easy draw saw then get to the quarters.

dwayneshintzy · 02-08-2015 05:17PM

K-9 wrote: »

Kildare are a Division 3 team who got found out badly today. Easy draw saw then get to the quarters.

They hammered a Cork team who were quite close to winning Munster all the same

techdiver · 02-08-2015 05:18PM

STB. wrote: »

The championship has served us well for 100 years.

The counties who are no performing need to step up.

What these dreamers are thinking up is only short of handicapping the the stronger Division one teams to play with 13 players.

There have been plenty of unpredictable results in the football this year.

That's an over simplification.

There wasn't millions in sponsorship money for the likes of Dublin 100 years ago.

I agree to an extent that individual counties need to step up. Too many counties ignore underage development.

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-08-2015 05:18PM

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K-9 · 02-08-2015 05:22PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

They hammered a Cork team who were quite close to winning Munster all the same

6 day turnaround though, soft draw.

Anyway, there's 3 tiers in football, a top 8 at most, a middle group of about 14/15 teams and a bottom 8 or 10 or so.

This 2 tier thing doesn't address that.

STB. · 02-08-2015 05:24PM

techdiver wrote: »

That's an over simplification.

There wasn't millions in sponsorship money for the likes of Dublin 100 years ago.

I agree to an extent that individual counties need to step up. Too many counties ignore underage development.

Individual County's fans also need to manage their expectations. Dublin havent exatcly been pulling up trees when it comes to the small number of All Ireland's that they have won in the last 30 years!

You would swear that with all this money, the big teams are simply growing gentically modified players. How does a small county like Kilkenny whip everyones backsides in Hurling ? Is it money. No. Its bloody pride in the jersey. No amount of moving the goalposts will prevent that. Its a laughable and most boring topic.