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The 2015 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

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  • #2312
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    STB. wrote: »
    I doubt the Dubs Fermanagh game will be this tight.:eek:

    It will be much tighter I'd say. Fermanagh might actually have some pride in their jersey.


  • #2313
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    munster87 wrote: »
    Except Kerry unfortunately

    And Dublin. Who are from Leinster, incidentally.


  • #2314
    Cosmo Kramer
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    May Lydon wrote: »
    The transfer window is due to close in four weeks and Kildare better get busy.

    How's the new Audi going? :)


  • #2315
    STB.
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    munster87 wrote: »
    Except Kerry unfortunately

    Took a replay though didnt it :)

    Aw yeah the cute hoors where quiet back then alright. Hee Hee.


  • #2316
    Diabhal Beag
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    Gooch could have shown some mercy about 25 minutes ago, Tommy "Don't Call Me Tommy" Carr.


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  • #2317
    letowski
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    "Intensity" is definitley the most over used word in Gaelic.


  • #2318
    May Lydon
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    Cosmo Kramer wrote: »
    How's the new Audi going? :)

    Good size boot in it for a small car.


  • #2319
    GoldFour4
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    In fairness Kerry will hate this to some extent. It's not great preparation for an all ireland semi final at all.


  • #2320
    Wang King
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    May Lydon wrote: »
    Good size boot in it for a small car.

    Big enough to carry Kildare's crushed dreams?


  • #2321
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    malistheman wrote: »
    It will be much tighter I'd say. Fermanagh might actually have some pride in their jersey.

    Oh I'd say so. That was sarcasm. TBH the form is so in and out with Kildare/Cork/Fermanagh/Westmeath/Donegal that you would struggle to figure out what is going on. I mean this Kildare team have not turned up today. The same Kildare team that beat Cork, a team that Kerry took 2 goes at to beat.

    If they were racehorses they would have all been hauled in for drug tests!


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  • #2322
    Wang King
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    Aidan O Mahoney doing a hammy there at the end?


  • #2323
    BoJack Horseman
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    Don't want to sound hysterical, but is GAA diminishing?

    Is the contraction of talent to 5/6 counties a blip or is there some other malaise?


  • #2324
    May Lydon
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    When Kerry peak we're all in real trouble.


  • #2325
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    It's scary how Kerry can give a decent team like this an awful beating without even getting out of second gear.

    It's worse than Sligo Mayo now :o


  • #2326
    Cosmo Kramer
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    May Lydon wrote: »
    Good size boot in it for a small car.

    Good to hear - remember you have to drop it back tomorrow.


  • #2327
    munster87
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    STB. wrote: »
    Took a replay though didnt it :)

    Aw yeah the cute hoors where quiet back then alright. Hee Hee.

    They'd probably prefer to be quiet than doing this to kildare in Dublin fashion.


  • #2328
    Utopia Parkway
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    The football and hurling championships this year have been as lackluster as the Irish Summer. Need some good games to finish up with to save them.


  • #2329
    tayto lover
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    Lambs to the slaughter yet again and more to come.


  • #2330
    Peist2007
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    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    The football and hurling championships this year have been as lackluster as the Irish Summer. Need some good games to finish up with to save them.

    Dublin/Fermanagh v Mayo/Donegal and Kerry v Monaghan will be top games.


  • #2331
    Jayop
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Dublin/Fermanagh v Mayo/Donegal and Kerry v Monaghan will be top games.

    Monaghan already beat tyrone then did they?


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  • #2332
    Dyr
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    letowski wrote: »
    "Intensity" is definitley the most over used word in Gaelic.

    Except its spelt "intinsity"

    Ask Pat Spillane, he's a teacher


  • #2333
    Cosmo Kramer
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    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Don't want to sound hysterical, but is GAA diminishing?

    Is the contraction of talent to 5/6 counties a blip or is there some other malaise?

    A few counties have changed their structures massively and have kicked on well ahead of the other teams. A good Under 21 player in Dublin, Kerry or Mayo will now go straight into a development structure that gives him a far greater chance to progress than a player of the same age and of a similar standard in a traditional rival county to each like Meath, Cork or Galway.

    It has taken the others half a decade to work out that this has even happened and I'm still not sure that the message has gotten through. We could see another four or five years of this before the others catch up and things balance out again.


  • #2334
    Peist2007
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    An idea in relation to earlier posts that has just occurred to me - why not have the championship as it is but at semi-final and final stage it is best of 3 as opposed to single game knockout. Like how the NBA do it except no home and away with all games at Croker. Saturday and Sunday on 3 consec weeks. Weekend off and then 3 consecutive weekends for the final. Would destroy the fixture schedule probably but would guarantee games between the top 4 whilst giving everyone a chance.

    Edit: on second thoughts scratch that. As a Mayo man that would have meant reliving 2004 and 2006 again as Kerry would have had to turn up the following week to win the series 2-0. Christ


  • #2335
    Peist2007
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Monaghan already beat tyrone then did they?

    Ha true sorry, a slip! I actually think Monaghan Tyrone will be a serious game. Toss of a coin


  • #2336
    GoldFour4
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    An idea in relation to earlier posts that has just occurred to me - why not have the championship as it is but at semi-final and final stage it is best of 3 as opposed to single game knockout. Like how the NBA do it except no home and away with all games at Croker. Saturday and Sunday on 3 consec weeks. Weekend off and then 3 consecutive weekends for the final. Would destroy the fixture schedule probably but would guarantee games between the top 4 whilst giving everyone a chance.

    In fairness the NBA is much different. You have rolling subs and a much smaller playing area. The lack of an atmosphere would be big in a football situation like that. NBA arenas hold 20000 or so, not much more anyway. So it's easy to sell the arena out in huge US cities.


  • #2337
    Jayop
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Ha true sorry, a slip! I actually think Monaghan Tyrone will be a serious game. Toss of a coin

    Monaghan slight favorites but I have a feeling tyrone will get through.


  • #2338
    MattB11
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    I predict a semi final line up of Kerry vs Tyrone and Dublin vs Mayo with Kerry and Dublin progressing to the final and Kerry retaining Sam


  • #2339
    Peist2007
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    malistheman wrote: »
    In fairness the NBA is much different. You have rolling subs and a much smaller playing area. The lack of an atmosphere would be big in a football situation like that. NBA arenas hold 20000 or so, not much more anyway. So it's easy to sell the arena out in huge US cities.

    Yeah it was an idea being formulated as i typed. The physical demands would be tough but the standard of the championship would be raised. As it stands there seems to be 50 games with 3 worth getting worked up over.

    If attendance across 3 games is an issue, I think the All Ireland semis this year will attract big crowds. Mayo Dublin will be jammers and the other semi should pull in 40k. That might be diluted by a 3 game series but 2 of the 3 games would be decisive so the interest would remain high. The first game wouldnt be a decisive one but it would get the crowd because it is the first meeting. I think attendances could be maintained over a 3 game series


  • #2340
    Dirty Dingus McGee
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    The problem I see is that results like today will reduce the incentive for the teams outside of the top bracket to even try.

    At the moment there is very little incentive to play inter county football if you are not from a top team and I'd imagine this weekends results so far would discourage a lot of players from playing inter county football.

    You go through agonizingly difficult training in **** weather in the winter , you give up your social life and subjected to dieting regimes and all for the chance to get hammered later in the summer.

    I think the gap may actually widen in the the next few years unless the GAA do something to reduce the gap.something that could be done that isn't a drastic change would be perhaps go back to a 16 team division 1 and give the second tier teams a chance to practice against the elite teams and get used to that level of play before they face it in the championship.
    When there was a 16 team division 1 and Division 2 the championship was a lot more competitive.

    Unfortunately a divisionalised championshiop would not get through congress.


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  • #2341
    Utopia Parkway
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    Cosmo Kramer wrote: »
    A few counties have changed their structures massively and have kicked on well ahead of the other teams. A good Under 21 player in Dublin, Kerry or Mayo will now go straight into a development structure that gives him a far greater chance to progress than a player of the same age and of a similar standard in a traditional rival county to each like Meath, Cork or Galway.

    It has taken the others half a decade to work out that this has even happened and I'm still not sure that the message has gotten through. We could see another four or five years of this before the others catch up and things balance out again.

    To be fair these things go in cycles. Apart from Kerry who nearly always have a good side with the occasional lull period and Dublin who have the vast resources to draw from. The likes of Mayo, Donegal and Monaghan though. These are all sides IMO that have a shelf-life. They have had very good teams over the past few years but it's unlikely to last ad infinitum.


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