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Mob Rule.

  • 30-07-2015 07:57PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭


    What can be done about these internet mobs who decide to start a campaign of abuse and destroy the lives of whoever happens to be in the news this week?
    The Lion man(who did nothing illegal) has been attacked unmercifully. Just the other day some on here were advocating starting a campaign against a particular Judge.
    Quite a few of the internet heroes who participate in these things I suspect have little understanding or real interest but are simply in it for the thrill and come next week will have completely forgotten their passionate crusade.

    Is there a solution to the modern equivalent of townsfolk with pitchforks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Cut America (and potentially the UK) off from the Internet for the next few decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    What he did was not illegal. It was, however, ****. Most people, when confronted with **** behaviour, let the individual concerned know that what they did was ****, and that they themselves are more than likely, a ****.

    In the good old days, this may have been one or two people confronting the **** about his **** behaviour. Now it's one or two, times a million or so.

    Fair play to them all.

    ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Miss Demeanour


    There is no pitchfork that can compete with my CAPS LOCK........when I use that you know I'm really angry!!!! :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭Justice4Adolf


    Lads Kneemos is having a go at us.

    Let's get him. Come on everybody.


    Who's with me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    endacl wrote: »
    What he did was not illegal. It was, however, ****. Most people, when confronted with **** behaviour, let the individual concerned know that what they did was ****, and that they themselves are more than likely, a ****.

    In the good old days, this may have been one or two people confronting the **** about his **** behaviour. Now it's one or two, times a million or so.

    Fair play to them all.

    ****.


    The right,sensible and long term solution then would be to campaign to change the law.

    Mobs don't like to use reason though do they?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Create a hate mob to expose hate mob organisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    What he did was illegal, though he may not have known it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Sympathy for that gobsh##e that killed the lion - no chance. Dunno the other one with the judge that u are talking about.
    The more abuse the better for that clown, might stop a few going over when they see the abuse he got. Then again maybe not with these gun loving yank hicks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    What the Lion killer did was illegal. Hence why his two guides have been arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I don't approve of mob rule, or witch hunts on the internet. I think it's lazy as well as cruel. But that is the time we live in and the internet is very much ruled by mob thought.

    In the same way that a feeling spreads over a mob that's willing and ready to be riled up, on the internet, I get the feeling that people feel more free to express the first emotion that comes to mind as regards a situation, and do not temper their words or think twice in how they phrase them as they might if speaking to a person face to face. Then another person reads it and allows themselves to be provoked into an emotional reaction too. Then a troll comes in and stirs **** up. Then someone who was borderline aboit it all reads the emotional backlash from two people and has an emotional reaction of "not fair!" and guns for the first two commentators. Then it snowballs. The original target of the chaos is not really considered to be a person, more like an abstract representation of whatever it is that's pissing people off. And just like with a mob, there is a lessened sense of responsibility of word and action and then things just get out of hand. Unfortunately, lives may be ruined before the mob finds something else to distract it.


    I don't think there is a way to solve this, really. The human race will have to mature more first, and see the internet as a method of communication with other people, and not just a sounding board for the loudest voices.
    kneemos wrote: »
    The Lion man(who did nothing illegal) has been attacked unmercifully.

    Having said all that, it is not yet decided whether or not he did do something illegal. It appears that the guides certainly did, it has yet to be decided whether Palmer knew it was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    You can't fart crooked in this social media dominated world, without a mob coming after you about the direction of the odour.

    Take a small business for example. Regularly I see campaigns on FB drumming up all kinds of stories about how they were unhappy with the service of a particular business. It then turns into an exaggerated withhunt. It seems that the social media type person thinks they can get satisfaction by using a mob mentality and while it may give them eventual customer satisfaction, they don't give a fiddlers about the effects on the business, its owners and other customers.

    Social Media - Shoot first. Ask questions later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    kneemos wrote: »
    The right,sensible and long term solution then would be to campaign to change the law.

    Mobs don't like to use reason though do they?

    Absolutely.

    However, in the meantime, while we're waiting...

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Samaris wrote: »



    Having said all that, it is not yet decided whether or not he did do something illegal. It appears that the guides certainly did, it has yet to be decided whether Palmer knew it was.



    So he's innocent.

    Animal hunting is an industry in Africa,there's even breeding farms for lion hunting.
    The rarer the animal the more it costs.

    Will the mob start a campaign against this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    An interesting thing to consider is whether you have ever agreed with the general idea of the mob's opinion, but argued against their more extreme ways or corrected misapprehensions or false notions it has.

    It takes little to mock the mob, more to hold to your own point of view even to the detriment of the baying voices when you could easily just go along with the outrage. Does tend to mean that both sides will dislike you though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Unfortunately we've a mixed package here.

    There definately is something wrong with hate groups on the internet.

    But fcuk the american dentist who thought I'm going to kill, some sentient, graceful, living thing, just because I can, not for food, not quick - but just to show everyone what a big lad I have.

    FFS - what did he think was genna happen, he's an intelligent guy presumably?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 843 ✭✭✭QuinDixie


    big game hunting of these animals for me is disgraceful.
    I would not mind if the lion was killed for food, say the locals needed food, but some rich white American dentist shoots with an arrow. Cyril deserved a more noble death.
    so I say let them hunt the dentist. payback is a bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I am thankful that we have Mod rule here and a Prison to keep this place half civilised. There are some very strange people out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Mob rule on the internet is unfortunately the way things are going. Not much you can do to stop it. Both locally and globally. I can see a lot of suicides happening as a result of the mob mentality, with people being accused of rape or pedofilia or something with obvious societal consequences and the citizens of the Internet taking it at face value and next thing you know the guy or girl has their life ruined and kills themselves, when they were quite possibly innocent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    kneemos wrote: »
    The right,sensible and long term solution then would be to campaign to change the law.

    ?[/QUOTE

    I'm a person who campaigned to help bring in the recent animal health and welfare act. The judge in the Liam Dowling case sent out a message that it doesn't really matter how you treat an animal regardless of how many laws are passed so yeah, this week I'm on the side of the angry internet mobs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ



    I'm a person who campaigned to help bring in the recent animal health and welfare act. The judge in the Liam Dowling case sent out a message that it doesn't really matter how you treat an animal regardless of how many laws are passed so yeah, this week I'm on the side of the angry internet mobs.

    This didn't happen in Ireland. Campaign for harsher penalties if you feel so passionate about animals. Or just give up and say some mean things about the bad man that shot the lion. See which one helps the animals more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    I am thankful that we have Mod rule here and a Prison to keep this place half civilised. There are some very strange people out there.

    Nicely done. You'll be a mod soon, no worries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    This didn't happen in Ireland. Campaign for harsher penalties if you feel so passionate about animals. Or just give up and say some mean things about the bad man that shot the lion. See which one helps the animals more.

    I'm talking about the case in DUBLIN which the OP referenced in their first post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    I'm talking about the case in DUBLIN which the OP referenced in their first post.

    ...and this justifies going along with mob rule how? If you don't believe the penalties handed out are harsh enough, campaign for harsher ones! Being mean to one person on the Internet isn't going to do anything in the grand scheme of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    ...and this justifies going along with mob rule how? If you don't believe the penalties handed out are harsh enough, campaign for harsher ones! Being mean to one person on the Internet isn't going to do anything in the grand scheme of things.

    You can save your indignation for someone else. I've never been mean to anyone on the internet. But nor do I have any sympathy for either that dentist or that scumbag in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    kneemos wrote: »
    What can be done about these internet mobs who decide to start a campaign of abuse and destroy the lives of whoever happens to be in the news this week?
    The Lion man(who did nothing illegal) has been attacked unmercifully. Just the other day some on here were advocating starting a campaign against a particular Judge.
    Quite a few of the internet heroes who participate in these things I suspect have little understanding or real interest but are simply in it for the thrill and come next week will have completely forgotten their passionate crusade.

    Is there a solution to the modern equivalent of townsfolk with pitchforks?

    http://www.lorrainehiggins.ie/contact/

    Enjoy....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25


    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I don't care about the dentist but this is affecting his kids - not cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    What's an Internet mob? A large group of people who feel strongly the same way about something and, crucially, with whom you disagree. One OPs mob is another OPs maximum thanks received.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    I don't care about the dentist but this is affecting his kids - not cool.

    That's not fair, I'm sure his kids are cool in their own way.


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