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How much to give to a wedding couple?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I am amazed that people think the idea of wedding gifts is to cover the couple's costs.

    That is not the idea at all.

    The idea is to give a gift to congratulate the couple on their wedding and give a gift to help them on their new married life together.

    In the old days this involved couples setting up home for the first time so Duvets, toasters etc were the norm.

    Then people got organised and started wedding lists that people could choose from in order to ensure that couples got what was required and prevent multiple toasters and kettle's etc.
    Also the wedding list offered options across all price ranges to suit everyone.

    Now, in the modern world were most couples co-habitate before hand and already have a home set up they do not need any gifts so cash has become the new normal gift.

    This gift is supposed to be discretionary and is not used to pay for the dinner. You are invited as a guest of the couple not a customer as many here seem to think,


    It really sounds like nowadays you could ask for a refund if you don't like the wine as you are paying for the mean according to many.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    So what would all these 'refuse to give money in case it eases b&gs bill' people do if you were invited to a wedding, attended only to find it was a function room disco type affair with not a morsel of food in sight? Are you the same lot who'd be complaining?

    No one refuses to give money, in fact that's probably the going present these days.
    It's the expectation by bride and groom of certain amounts per person/couple that's crass as is organising a certain type of wedding in the hope that your guest's gifts will cover some of it's cost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Rather than paying way over the odds for sub-standard food and expecting people who don't want to eat it to pay for it, why not ask the guests to bring food instead? Surely a great big ****-off buffet of food and booze would suit everyone better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    wnolan1992 wrote: »
    I'll reiterate, I've no issue with people giving cash as a gift. It's a perfectly lovely way to help out the couple.

    My issue is the EXPECTATION that you will give cash, and the snootery if this "gift" is of insufficient value, and the outrage if you dare to give an actual physical item.

    Ah right, I see what's going on - I think we may be arguing about 2 different things altogether...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    One of? How many times do you get married?

    I think you'll find most people have been married more than once these days - we're not living in the 50's any more grand dad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,694 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    A shot-gun wedding next year? How does that work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    looksee wrote: »
    A shot-gun wedding next year? How does that work?

    Takes 6 months to get a gun license in Ireland...


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People expecting to get a gift is hardly out of the ordinary, I'm not saying to ask for one or to set a minimum but when organizing a wedding you know you will get cash gifts so naturally you will take this into account when organizing it. Its like when you have a big birthday (21st, 30th, 40th etc) you know you will get gifts at these parties from those attending.
    I think you'll find most people have been married more than once these days.

    In fairness I'd say the vast majority of people are only married once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I think you'll find most people have been married more than once these days - we're not living in the 50's any more grand dad.


    What kind of nonsense talk is that?

    I asked you how many times do you get married, not how many times you think everyone else gets married... junior :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    I think you'll find most people have been married more than once these days - we're not living in the 50's any more grand dad.

    What? Most people married more that once?

    It's probably the opposite, as in most people are not married at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    There was a thread last year about weddings, and
    Someone mentioned that on top of the cash present, the happy
    Couple were looking for
    Donations to the "honeymoon fund"

    They could go and sing for that as far as I am concerned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Right Turn Clyde


    lertsnim wrote: »
    Oh nooo, what would the neighbours think.

    Fortunately there are people who aren't shallow bastards to think that because someone dared to give less than €100 with a wedding card.

    Why don't read through the rest of the thread before you jump the gun?

    The next time I'll put a smiley face beside my comments so you'll know when I'm joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Weddings for guests (based on two) often work out more expensive than the couple getting married.

    Think about it.... (worst case scenario tho in Ireland)


    Nice clobber say €100 each. so 200, OK you might have something already, but there ya go.

    Stay in hotel (inflated prices because of wedding, no B+B or alternative nearby) €200 ish for one night between two. You miss breakfast because of hangover, meh.

    Travel to venue within 150 miles €25 each diesel/petrol, or more if on the train.

    Drinks and spending money for the day €200 (conservative estimate!)

    Present for the B+G €200 between two.

    That's a minimum of €425 each.

    Weddings are very expensive (and bloody boring events) for many apart from immediate family.

    I doubt the B+G think about all this when organising their meringue event.

    You would have a very nice holiday for a week for that amount spent for a day.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Stay in hotel (inflated prices because of wedding, no B+B or alternative nearby)

    You would often get a discount on a hotel rather than pay extra. Certainly with most (not all) of the weddings I've been at there was a discount code being sent around for guests staying in the hotel or someone on the wedding party was taking names of people who wanted a room at a discount rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    You would often get a discount on a hotel rather than pay extra. Certainly with most (not all) of the weddings I've been at there was a discount code being sent around for guests staying in the hotel or someone on the wedding party was taking names of people who wanted a room at a discount rate.

    I never got a hotel discount at weddings. But even if you got say €25pp off the rate, per Spanisheyes quote that is still costing approx €400pp. Not factoring in (possible) babysitters, hair n nails for the ladies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Parties or weddings?

    It's great that you don't have any expectations, but logistically no couple can afford to throw a wedding without financial support from the people who are attending the wedding.

    If your friend invited you to a meal, would you eat the food and then leave without offering to help them pay?

    Party/wedding what's the difference? An event in a big room with food = party.

    Would you throw a dinner party and expect your guests to "pay for their plate"? I wouldn't.

    Why would you plan something amd proceed with something if you need other people to pay for it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Well my mate is having a shotgun wedding, its a funny one its early next year yet he only met the doll 9 months ago online.

    Why? I thought they went out here in the 90s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    ... but logistically no couple can afford to throw a wedding without financial support from the people who are attending the wedding.

    I managed it, and kept costs down whilst effectively spending loads on each individual guest that we had invited. We went to an expensive, and out of the way, hotel and only invited a very minimal number of people that we actually wanted to spend time with, not that we wanted to get drunk with. Grand total of 8 "guests" + the couple. One of the guests was a child and another was a pet dog. Put everyone up for a couple of nights in a fancy hotel, refused any cash gifts from them so got some nice actual things from them instead but that were appropriate to what they could afford, and apologised for having made them drive so far and take days off work. After petrol to get there and a few beers, hopefully the biggest expense for anyone else was buying a new swimming costume to fit so that they could make use of the pool and spa in the hotel.

    All made for a very cheep (total costs), but very expensive (per person), wedding and much more enjoyable for all participants without any of the "traditional" nonsense associated with weddings and the drunken piss-up afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    eisenberg1 wrote: »
    I never got a hotel discount at weddings. But even if you got say €25pp off the rate, per Spanisheyes quote that is still costing approx €400pp. Not factoring in (possible) babysitters, hair n nails for the ladies.

    Weddings are dead money for the guests. Plus a mega hangover in the head and the purse/wallet.

    Then they go home and count it all up.

    A week in a lovely place for two would not cost as much. Nearly €1k for a wedding attendance :eek:

    Guests are mugs. Unless it is immediate family I decline politely due to a pre arranged holiday, and send on €200 for both of us. We both feel the same BTW.

    Then we go on a holiday with the savings!

    Bottom line is, no one misses you really, they are too busy looking after their own nails, hair, clobber, getting drunk to drown out the boredom and so on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    My sister got married in Las Vegas. Just her and her husband. Got two witnesses from the wedding chapel. That was their choice. I know it's not for everyone tho.

    Her wedding was viewable live on line with a code and all their friends colleagues and us watched it as it happened. We laughed and enjoyed it with them.

    A little (lol) party in my parent's house when they came back. Magic almighty.

    NO CHARGE to anyone wanting to be part of their day.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Bottom line is, no one misses you really, they are too busy looking after their own nails, hair, clobber, getting drunk to drown out the boredom and so on.

    A lot of people enjoy weddings though, I do anyway. Usually have a great time at them and then a good p*ss up the following day for the cure as well to wind down after the wedding day itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    A lot of people enjoy weddings though, I do anyway. Usually have a great time at them and then a good p*ss up the following day for the cure as well to wind down after the wedding day itself.

    I know, but it is each to their own. Glad you have a great time, it is an individual thing really.

    As a person who enjoys a celebration, I have to say I find weddings are so formulaic. You could set your watch by them.

    And anyway, ENJOY what you enjoy.

    My posts were not in any way intended to stop that. Just me, and I like a holiday instead of attending the wedding of those I just don't know too well, as I expressed earlier.

    Whatever anyone says, IMV attending a wedding that is not immediate family is VERY expensive for what you get for a day or overnight.

    So therefore I don't. And obviously they don't miss me much either on the day :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Give them a toaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Parties or weddings?

    It's great that you don't have any expectations, but logistically no couple can afford to throw a wedding without financial support from the people who are attending the wedding.

    If your friend invited you to a meal, would you eat the food and then leave without offering to help them pay?

    If you need your guests to pay for your wedding, you can't afford to throw a wedding party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    I remember a friend of a friend of a friends cousin was getting married and I gave them 10,000 as a wedding gift. Small change to me. Now if I knew them well the proper money would come out.

    I remember this tight ass gave some only 500 as a wedding gift. It takes all sorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Why don't read through the rest of the thread before you jump the gun?

    The next time I'll put a smiley face beside my comments so you'll know when I'm joking.

    That was humour? Oh my bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    Give them a toaster.

    Or a foot spa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    A deluxe sex swing ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Interesting to read how many posters dislike weddings.......I thought I was the only one!


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