LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Voodoomelon · 20-07-2015 11:03AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

is that the actual car ? the only thing that would annoy me is over here the v6 is great but in V8 merica land id be looking for a v8 xj

Nope, sorry, just showing the colour. He bought it in Dublin. Has the slightly stuffier wheels too, but looks good. The 4.2 V8 in the R version S-Type would be something to behold!

Sleepy · 20-07-2015 04:17PM

Sleepy wrote: »

If anyone else has been following this, part 7 went live yesterday:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/life-%C2%A3500-luxury-barge-part-seven

Part 6 for anyone who missed it:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/life-%C2%A3500-luxury-barge-%E2%80%93-part-six

Part 8: http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/used-jaguar-life-%C2%A3500-luxury-barge-part-eight

26000 Elephants · 20-07-2015 04:45PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Part 8: http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything-goes/used-jaguar-life-%C2%A3500-luxury-barge-part-eight

It amazes how people always go for the complicated fix first, instead of investigating an obvious fault (battery showing steady 11v)

Most modern ecu's ( including that jags) wont tolerate a base voltage much lower than 12.3v

Hachiko · 21-07-2015 12:49AM

Truckermal wrote: »

Be Jaysus how much feeling would you like???:pac:

I have a 05 GS 300.

I think they have no idea what the car is tbh., that 450h is an absolute bus, albeit with milage on the high side.

Sobanek · 21-07-2015 12:59AM

Hachiko wrote: »

I think they have no idea what the car is tbh., that 450h is an absolute bus, albeit with milage on the high side.

They're very good cars for a specific amount of money. I'll agree on that.

Are they joyful, full of soul cars? No. But so isn't a W221 Merc or an E65 BMW.

Hachiko · 21-07-2015 01:16AM

for the asking price its a bargain, the milage is slightly worrying but its a Lexus and they can handle high miles with ease. I had my eyes on a LS460 SEL here in England (out of curiosity more than anything) from a private sale as it was going ridiculously cheap (£8k ish). It is sold now, the milage was well over 150k but for people in the know are knowledgeable that they can easily cope with stellar miles. Anyway, that series BMW 7 series was riddled with gremlins was it not? Barges from Lexus are legendary like the LS400.

mickdw · 21-07-2015 10:53AM

Hachiko wrote: »

I think they have no idea what the car is tbh., that 450h is an absolute bus, albeit with milage on the high side.

I considered an 08 model a few years back. I decided against due to the very isolated drive and also interior styling. The power is amazing and seemlessly goes from all electric to petrol engine etc. An amazing bit of kit for sure and returned high 20s mpg for me over weekend mixed driving but I was sampling all its power at all times. I think that is a good figure given the performance. Still I was happy to sit into my own car after and that says everything really.

Voodoomelon · 21-07-2015 12:16PM

I agree on the interiors, years behind brands of the same era. But surprisingly powerful.

Hachiko · 21-07-2015 12:21PM

well it has a 3.5L V6 and a hybrid, it is not going to be a slouch

wilford · 21-07-2015 02:06PM

I'm 7 month's into my 450h ownership no regrets and everytime I drive it,it always brings a smile to my face the power is amazing,averaging 25mpg around town and over 30 on a long run.

tw0nk · 21-07-2015 02:45PM

wilford wrote: »

I'm 7 month's into my 450h ownership no regrets and everytime I drive it,it always brings a smile to my face the power is amazing,averaging 25mpg around town and over 30 on a long run.

Me too, me too! I have mine nearly 2 years now and I love it, may need to change soon due to family changes but it's the nicest car I've ever driven except for maybe the A7 quattro.

Frynge · 21-07-2015 10:33PM

Truckermal wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9518933

Japanese quality it was up for 7K so 5k should buy it I'd love it!!!

Anyone gone to see this? I'm going tomorrow to check it out, anything to look out for.

Hachiko · 21-07-2015 11:20PM

well obviously the milage is high so check it has had loads of service, I am not sure what gives with the battery on this but I cant imagine it will be cheap if it needs to be replaced. Let us know how it goes. You could probably get it for 5k or there abouts, thats a lot of car for the money.

Old diesel · 22-07-2015 10:14AM

How does the GS 450 h (and GS in general) compare to the LS 430 on

1) comfort
2) fuel economy
3) general ownership????

My brother has one of said LS 430s with high miles on so it may be "time to say goodbye" at some point relatively soon.

Thoughts on how the 6 k Lexus/luxobarge in general ownership experience is likely to compare to the 18/20 k Skoda Superb 170 tdi DSG his also likely to be considering also welcome.

20 k mile mileage a year - is there any case to be made for the Skoda at all.

Lower tax and better fuel for sure - but 10 to 12 k more expensive on day one....

And while Superbs seem very reliable generally - does that not bring the pitfall that the next owner will have "the issues"

Apologies if this is seen as derailing the thread - but he isn't close enough to purchase just yet for a thread of its own

Hachiko · 22-07-2015 10:48AM

GS and LS are different segments, if you have been in a LS430 you know what to expect. 20K miles is relatively high. A LS/GS are in a different class to a Skoda. Depends what you want to spend and what is important for you in motoring. A fully topped out Superb in L&k is very nice but will cost a bit more than the older Luxobarge Lexus you have in mind, all depends on where you want to put your money.

mullingar · 22-07-2015 07:44PM

The last year of the Ls430 was 2006 and it was €118k new, the first 07 GS430h was €85k new (Inc that vrt rebate), so a nice €30k+ difference!

Hachiko · 22-07-2015 08:08PM

^^ that's why I said they are different segments, the LS is the top model, LS430 superseded by the -LS460 and 600HL if you want somewhere to live in.

The LS430 is a fine thing, you can stick on LPG if you are worried on fuel.

frozenfrozen · 22-07-2015 08:22PM

aside from the install cost is there any downside at all to lpg?

mullingar · 22-07-2015 09:15PM

As an owner of a lpg'd Ls430, no.

It does around23-24 on petrol, 19-20mpg on gas so with lpg at half the price of petrol it's the financial equivalent to a 38mpg petrol only car.

Voodoomelon · 23-07-2015 12:57AM

Loss of boot space/spare wheel well for the tank would be about the only downside.

Brasso · 23-07-2015 12:50PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9914380
Not in the rules of this thread, but for anyone interested these W221 S Classes seem to be finally dropping below €10k. This 9 year old S350 petrol with 78,000 miles and 11 months NCT asking €9k. Ad has been up a few days though, it's just been updated by the dealer so a bit of haggling might get a better deal.

Idbatterim · 23-07-2015 01:14PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9914380
Not in the rules of this thread, but for anyone interested these W221 S Classes seem to be finally dropping below €10k. This 9 year old S350 petrol with 78,000 miles and 11 months NCT asking €9k. Ad has been up a few days though, it's just been updated by the dealer so a bit of haggling might get a better deal.

yeah I noticed that myself recently. The 221 is probably the next car I will go for, I was waiting for them to come into this price region. there is another one up with Dublin dealer asking 10,000. I wont buy one unless its black though, personally... Although on top of the black, I would ideally like an S500. If the tax is the same, why go for the S350! Unless the 500 is price a good bit more, but there were two up recently enough asking 15k from dealers...

Frynge · 23-07-2015 03:38PM

Frynge wrote: »

Anyone gone to see this? I'm going tomorrow to check it out, anything to look out for.

"Check hybrid system" on the dash and no service information in the memory so walked away.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-07-2015 05:10PM

Frynge wrote: »

"Check hybrid system" on the dash and no service information in the memory so walked away.

What a waste of your time, nothing worse than it, they should have mentioned it in their ad, so much for their description "Another stunning example of an approved vehicle from Kylemore Car's catalogue of pre owned cars.". Did they think that the small matter of Check hybrid system would be overlooked?

Truckermal · 23-07-2015 05:44PM

Frynge wrote: »

"Check hybrid system" on the dash and no service information in the memory so walked away.

A quick Google points to the battery which costs 5k! I suppose you could offer him 900..:D

Frynge · 23-07-2015 06:48PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What a waste of your time, nothing worse than it, they should have mentioned it in their ad, so much for their description "Another stunning example of an approved vehicle from Kylemore Car's catalogue of pre owned cars.". Did they think that the small matter of Check hybrid system would be overlooked?

I would have no expectation of it being a brand new car but I would expect the engine to be in such a state that it doesn't try to warn you about its state.

Truckermal wrote: »

A quick Google points to the battery which costs 5k! I suppose you could offer him 900..:D

The sales guy said that the battery pack was under warranty with Lexus for 15 years but I would be fairly sure that wouldn't be honoured since the service history isn't with Lexus.

Eric Cartman · 23-07-2015 06:49PM

Frynge wrote: »

I would have no expectation of it being a brand new car but I would expect the engine to be in such a state that it doesn't try to warn you about its state.

The sales guy said that the battery pack was under warranty with Lexus for 15 years but I would be fairly sure that wouldn't be honoured since the service history isn't with Lexus.

i don't think its 15 years , and with a car that complicated I think the ex owner was an idiot, hybrid systems are so manufacturer specific they should always be dealer serviced until we have a few specialists rolling round.

frozenfrozen · 23-07-2015 06:51PM

and tbh if it was under warranty why didn't they send it back and then they could put 'brand new battery installed by lexus' on the ad.

Frynge · 23-07-2015 07:00PM

Sales guy did seem to be surprised when I told him about it which is nearly more worrying. So either there is something massively wrong with the car or there is something potentially massively wrong with the car. For either of those two to be the case and the sales guy unaware of it, scared me off.

Hachiko · 23-07-2015 07:28PM

Frynge wrote: »

"Check hybrid system" on the dash and no service information in the memory so walked away.

thats pretty soul destroying, what a w**k garage to put a crooked car up like that, wasting everyone's time.

LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

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