UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST

Seifer · 13-07-2015 11:19AM

slicus ricus wrote: »

Do we know for sure that McGregor definitely uses an IV to re-hydrate? I don't think all of the fighters do and I also read an article by George Lockhart (one of the weigh cutting gurus some of the fighters hire) where he recommends against them in most cases (see link below and scroll down to "Refuelling" part):

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/12/7383419/mma-nutrition-diet-weight-cutting-guide-mma-george-lockhart

I read somewhere in the build-up that both he and Chad were on I.V's after the weigh-in (can't remember where).

McGregor's cut seems to be one of the more extreme ones. One which is probably a good example of what the I.V. ban is essentially trying to eliminate. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't use one.

I've read that article; it's very informative.

CurryFlavoured · 13-07-2015 11:25AM

Knex. wrote: »

Holloway saying how the body shots would have gassed Mendes regardless of a full training camp or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rytq4vJ5Y4

That's good, I was confused seeing Chad tired but hearing that from another pro clears it up.

Max is cool, hope they fight again one day.

darced · 13-07-2015 11:28AM

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Pulse8 · 13-07-2015 11:32AM

Maybe it's on the thread already, still in Vegas so Havnt been keeping up to date...posted this on my FB from the fight & it's been reposted by tonnes of other huge FB pages garnering millions of views - closing moments & the crowds reaction

http://youtu.be/rIXOprdr3LM

Got this cracker of a pic at the end of the presser too

Myrddin · 13-07-2015 11:37AM

Pulse8 wrote: »

http://youtu.be/rIXOprdr3LM

Wow, goosebumps.

slicus ricus · 13-07-2015 11:37AM

darced wrote: »

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Yeh, when I googled it, I actually came across this video where he discusses it and more or less says exactly that (see the 9.00 mark). He said he has re-hydrated many times without using an IV. In fairness, he probably didn't have that facility in the smaller European shows but I suppose if you have it in UFC, why not use it!

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/9/8918193/ufc-189-video-conor-mcgregor-media-scrum

.ak · 13-07-2015 12:02PM

Seifer wrote: »

Just on a mildly related note; January 2nd is the date being bandied around for the Aldo fight which is obviously after the October I.V. ban.

Will it be possible for McGregor to make it down to 145 without an IV to recover?

Can someone explain the IV thing a bit more?

chopperbyrne · 13-07-2015 12:05PM

.ak wrote: »

Can someone explain the IV thing a bit more?

After the weigh in, they go on a drip to rehydrate more efficiently.

Davei141 · 13-07-2015 12:05PM

.ak wrote: »

Can someone explain the IV thing a bit more?

Anything over 50ml is banned under USADA rules. It was supposed to come into effect in July but they post-poned it till October to give the fighters more time to adjust. They hook up I.Vs during the night so they hydrate while sleeping, cuts down on the discomfort of drinking pounds and pounds of water to re-hydrate.

.ak · 13-07-2015 12:21PM

Ah I see, cheers.

Actually reminds me, last time I was in Vegas, in the MGM actually, there's a 'beauty/health spa' in there that does IV 'rejuvenations', i.e; if you've been on the beer too long and need a high end hangover cure! Gas stuff.

Saipanne · 13-07-2015 12:24PM

.ak wrote: »

Ah I see, cheers.

Actually reminds me, last time I was in Vegas, in the MGM actually, there's a 'beauty/health spa' in there that does IV 'rejuvenations', i.e; if you've been on the beer too long and need a high end hangover cure! Gas stuff.

It's meant to be quite effective for that!

Deedsie · 13-07-2015 12:26PM

I was wondering if anyone knows what McGregor was referring to in the post fight press conference when he said he was suffering worse things than a bruised rib? Was he sick does anyone know?

JustTheOne · 13-07-2015 12:27PM

Deedsie wrote: »

I was wondering if anyone knows what McGregor was referring to in the post fight press conference when he said he was suffering worse things than a bruised rib? Was he sick does anyone know?

Bad knee problems.

bmcc10 · 13-07-2015 12:37PM

Was listening to something on the radio earlier on a dublin station im not sure(cultchie), Really embarrasing to listen to them, Didn't hear too much but the talk of allowing your child to stay up to watch it is similar to child abuse is just typical of some Irish people, Guranteed the young people who take an interest in Mma after this will turn out more driven, determined, hard working and respectful in life than many others take young Nate for example.

jjdonegal · 13-07-2015 12:38PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

The UFC were win, win whatever the outcome of the fight
If Mendes won, he would fight Aldo next, the yanks would bill it as the champ v the man who stopped McGregor & all the McGregor haters would watch it. They would then have the return of McGregor etc
As it is, the fight was stopped because Mendes got hit with two clean shots to the head. If it happened earlier in the round no one would be crying fix. Mendes himself said he had no problem with the decision as he respected Herb Dean who is rated the best ref in the UFC.
Whatever people think of McGregor the yanks love the atmosphere the Irish fans are bringing to the UFC which can only be good for Ireland in the long term.

I disagree to be honest as I was not hoping for Aldo Mendes 3 and I've watched UFC for awhile. Casual fans who follow McGregor would prob have totally switched off.
That's just my opinion and could be miles of the mark :-)
I dont think it would have had a major effect on the McGregor rollercoaster as he is so marketable but I do believe McGregor Aldo is best for the UFC.
Regarding the stoppage; 100% the right call and cannot believe it is still being debated as vocally on social media as it has been.

ricero · 13-07-2015 12:41PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Was listening to something on the radio earlier on a dublin station im not sure(cultchie), Really embarrasing to listen to them, Didn't hear too much but the talk of allowing your child to stay up to watch it is similar to child abuse is just typical of some Irish people, Guranteed the young people who take an interuest in Mma after this will turn out more driven, determined, hard working and respectful in life than many others take young Nate for example.

I say it was them two arseholes Adrian Kennedy and jermemy Dixon on 98fm. Lowest common denomantor stuff as is the majority of their listeners.

JJayoo · 13-07-2015 12:42PM

Mendes was exhausted and barely able to stand before the exchange that knocked him out, even if the fight had gone into the third round Mcgregor was gonna win.

DeVore · 13-07-2015 12:45PM

I know Irish doctors who go into work on Monday morning and hang an IV with what they call a "banana bag" (its a concoction of vitamins, minerals, salts etc and its yellow, hence the name). They tell me it clears a hangover in about 10 mins. They cant prescribe it to others but the can do it to themselves

Tefral · 13-07-2015 12:47PM

DeVore wrote: »

I know Irish doctors who go into work on Monday morning and hang an IV with what they call a "banana bag" (its a concoction of vitamins, minerals, salts etc and its yellow, hence the name). They tell me it clears a hangover in about 10 mins. They cant prescribe it to others but the can do it to themselves

This is not the first time I have heard this actually. Perks of the trade I suppose ha ha

bono_v · 13-07-2015 12:56PM

DeVore wrote: »

I know Irish doctors who go into work on Monday morning and hang an IV with what they call a "banana bag" (its a concoction of vitamins, minerals, salts etc and its yellow, hence the name). They tell me it clears a hangover in about 10 mins. They cant prescribe it to others but the can do it to themselves

Paramedics do it too

nc19 · 13-07-2015 12:59PM

wylie wrote:

......Conor made a point in saying "when ever I'm with Dana its for business and thats it, He's a business man and i'm a business man. Just thought it was weird.

Probably more so in response to all the claims that they're pally pally and he is being protected due to this friendship etc........
I'm sure he's told them he's not happy with that much media but as he said himself, once they hand him the cheque it's a different story......

Also, I feel conor wants to be viewed as a shrude business man.......not sure how that will go for him!!!!

13-07-2015 01:04PM

nc19 wrote: »

Also, I feel conor wants to be viewed as a shrude business man.......not sure how that will go for him!!!!

Well, his business (McGregor inc) is certainly turning over millions, maybe 10s of millions soon, which isn't a bad start, no?

And it's 'shrewd'.

nc19 · 13-07-2015 01:12PM

El Guapo! wrote:

. He just had a couple of weeks to focus on fighting Conor.

And Conor had the same time to focus on chad

Ken Shamrock · 13-07-2015 01:14PM

nc19 wrote: »

And Conor had the same time to focus on chad

Conor also had how long of a training camp? As opposed to Mendes' 2 weeks, with a full training camp that fight would have been completely different. Only deluded If you think otherwise.

DuffleBag · 13-07-2015 01:16PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/33497089

Conor is also the first fighter from Dublin or Cork to win a UFC belt!

JustTheOne · 13-07-2015 01:17PM

Don't listen to 4fm now it's painful.

RedemptionZ · 13-07-2015 01:18PM

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Conor also had how long of a training camp? As opposed to Mendes' 2 weeks, with a full training camp that fight would have been completely different. Only deluded If you think otherwise.

Mendes doesn't do 8 week camps so keeps in shape throughout the year. He openly admits that. His camps are never more than 6 weeks.

If he had the full time Conor would've had the full time to focus on defending against Chad. Maybe it would have been very different. Maybe not.

maximoose · 13-07-2015 01:22PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Don't listen to 4fm now it's painful.

What's going on?

Paully D · 13-07-2015 01:23PM

Fingers crossed we get this covered on Joe Duffy today. Could make epic listening! :pac:

Ken Shamrock · 13-07-2015 01:24PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Mendes doesn't do 8 week camps so keeps in shape throughout the year. He openly admits that. His camps are never more than 6 weeks.

If he had the full time Conor would've had the full time to focus on defending against Chad. Maybe it would have been very different. Maybe not.

It would most definitely of been very different for everyone involved.

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