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Pitcairn · 01-06-2015 1:47pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Apart from long haul and package holidays, most Irish people forget that other options might be available, especially as there are so few alternatives to the big two outside of Dublin - I can only think of flybe at Knock (and Cork if it gets going) and VLM at Waterford.

Which brings us back to the disgrace that was Ryanair forcing Wizz Air out of Cork.

They had their only Irish hub here doing four or five flights to Eastern Europe. They did it without any fanfare or flight launches and everybody seemed happy.

Ryanair came in, undercut them, forced them out and then ****ed off to Shannon.

Rhys Essien · 03-06-2015 2:08pm

So its official now that Czech Airlines have cancelled Prague and Ibiza before they even started.That is embarrassing on epic levels.Some serious $hit needs to be done and fast.I'll say it again,Cork politicians are failing the people badly.The whole region is losing out.NOT GOOD ENOUGH.:mad:

highlydebased · 03-06-2015 3:18pm

The statement:

"Earlier today, after thorough analyses, Czech Airlines Management has decided not to launch operations of two-planned new services from Cork, i.e. not to operate the Cork–Prague and the Cork–Ibiza routes. Passenger volume development and advanced bookings for the routes and markets the Czech and the Irish, despite intensive marketing and business support did not match our expectations and wasn't in line with the original estimates and calculations. On the basis of bookings development launching operations on the routes wouldn't be economically viable from the Czech Airlines’ perspective. Czech Airlines authorizes free refund of unused or partially used OK validated tickets provided under condition they were issued for one of the above-mentioned flights."

KCAccidental · 03-06-2015 4:04pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

So its official now that Czech Airlines have cancelled Prague and Ibiza before they even started.That is embarrassing on epic levels.Some serious $hit needs to be done and fast.I'll say it again,Cork politicians are failing the people badly.The whole region is losing out.NOT GOOD ENOUGH.:mad:

the rot has already set in, I fear. Most people I've spoken to already bypass cork when looking for flights and just search out of Dublin.

namloc1980 · 03-06-2015 11:28pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

So its official now that Czech Airlines have cancelled Prague and Ibiza before they even started.That is embarrassing on epic levels.Some serious $hit needs to be done and fast.I'll say it again,Cork politicians are failing the people badly.The whole region is losing out.NOT GOOD ENOUGH.:mad:

And the message this gives other airlines considering Cork is....AVOID!

Cosmo Kramer · 04-06-2015 7:12am

http://www.therouteshop.com/profiles/cork-airport/

Cork advertises over 30 unserved routes as being available and viable on the above aviation advertising website, including Prague. However, I would question how many of the listed European routes would be viable to any carrier other then Aer Lingus and Ryanair.

denhaagenite · 04-06-2015 9:31am

Where did the Dusseldorf rumour come from actually?

Dannyboy83 · 04-06-2015 11:58am

denhaagenite wrote: »

Where did the Dusseldorf rumour come from actually?

One of the possibly, maybe, hopefully IAG routes announced by the government at the Aer Lingus sale, iirc

kub · 04-06-2015 12:44pm

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

One of the possibly, maybe, hopefully IAG routes announced by the government at the Aer Lingus sale, iirc

So a politician said it.......must be true.

Maxmelay · 09-06-2015 11:58pm

I actually booked a ticket to go to Prague. Did someone get any refund already from Czech Airlines?

roundymac · 14-06-2015 6:45pm

If you are flying out of Cork with Aer Lingus between 6am and 8am you can now check in your baggage the day before between 4 and 7pm. I used this facility out of Dublin last year and found it great. Only one person need turn up but must present tickets/boarding cards and passports for all.

lisasimpson · 27-06-2015 9:05am

Reports Cityjet are to announce a cork London city service....

.red. · 27-06-2015 8:27pm

lisasimpson wrote: »

Reports Cityjet are to announce a cork London city service....

3 times a day supposedly!

razorblunt · 27-06-2015 10:25pm

.red. wrote: »

3 times a day supposedly!

Mash them together and you'd probably have something decent.

KC is way above any of them, but there are some awful presenters on both stations, the less said about the same 5 lads tweeting the Opinion Line everyday the better.

.red. · 27-06-2015 10:35pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Mash them together and you'd probably have something decent.

KC is way above any of them, but there are some awful presenters on both stations, the less said about the same 5 lads tweeting the Opinion Line everyday the better.

Lol.
this is the cork airport thread, not the 96 fm V Red fm thread!

lisasimpson · 28-06-2015 7:53am

.red. wrote: »

3 times a day supposedly!

Actually a guy from Cityjet was on radio one yesterday morning.he was asked about the AIG takeover and the effects on shannon and cork.said they see great protential for cork never mentioned shannon. Heres hoping the london city services is promoted well and is a success and it would encourage them to launch a few new routes

.red. · 01-07-2015 10:38am

lisasimpson wrote: »

Reports Cityjet are to announce a cork London city service....

There was a few cityjet bigwigs due in this motlrning to announce the routes and times. Think its 19 times a week?

leahyl · 01-07-2015 12:48pm

Flights are available to book on their website - just checked.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/cityjet-annouces-new-cork-london-service-684553.html

Just as an example: not much difference in price between Aer Lingus and Cityjet for the weekend of 4-7 December - 96e (cityjet) versus 107e (Aer Lingus) - but then different airports. Ryanair is the cheapest to Gatwick at 47e.

kooga · 01-07-2015 1:32pm

fantastic to be flying into london city, as i travel to greenwich a couple of times a month..........so this is the business

razorblunt · 01-07-2015 2:20pm

.red. wrote: »

Lol.
this is the cork airport thread, not the 96 fm V Red fm thread!

Ha, whoops! You know I went looking for this the other day in the other thread and couldn't find it. Thought I was going mad!
Too many tabs open ... too many tabs!

lisasimpson · 01-07-2015 7:07pm

no mention of them doing new routes from what I can see but hopefully its a success and encourage them to launch some

KCAccidental · 01-07-2015 10:29pm

lisasimpson wrote: »

no mention of them doing new routes from what I can see but hopefully its a success and encourage them to launch some

It is a new route in that it will be serving London City Airport. The city airport is by far the closest airport to Central London with connections to the underground/overground via Docklands Light railway in about 15 mins.

Definitely worth considering instead of Gatwick/Stansted if you factor in the rail fare from those airports.

Jamie2k9 · 02-07-2015 2:58pm

Cork-Dusseldorf will be announced on Monday operating 2/3 weekly and will allow weekend breaks with a Mon/Fri schedule.

denhaagenite · 02-07-2015 4:01pm

Excellent news, hope it's up and running soon. Will provide much needed competition for the Cork - Ams route

Any clue which carrier?

Jamie2k9 · 02-07-2015 4:12pm

denhaagenite wrote: »

Excellent news, hope it's up and running soon. Will provide much needed competition for the Cork - Ams route

Any clue which carrier?

Aer Lingus and I believe around 26 October.

denhaagenite · 02-07-2015 4:32pm

Pity, they're going to fix the prices like they do with Duss - Dub Ams - Dub then. Still very happy with that route though, was badly needed.

KCAccidental · 02-07-2015 9:36pm

delighted with that.

razorblunt · 03-07-2015 8:57am

KCAccidental wrote: »

It is a new route in that it will be serving London City Airport. The city airport is by far the closest airport to Central London with connections to the underground/overground via Docklands Light railway in about 15 mins.

Definitely worth considering instead of Gatwick/Stansted if you factor in the rail fare from those airports.

Yep even if the route itself is ~£30/£40 more, the convenience alone if you're staying in the City is worth it. As it's primarily a "business" airport the security lines are extremely efficient too.

FrStone · 03-07-2015 12:12pm

leahyl wrote: »

Flights are available to book on their website - just checked.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/cityjet-annouces-new-cork-london-service-684553.html

Just as an example: not much difference in price between Aer Lingus and Cityjet for the weekend of 4-7 December - 96e (cityjet) versus 107e (Aer Lingus) - but then different airports. Ryanair is the cheapest to Gatwick at 47e.

If the times suit though, city jet makes the most sense. If you fly into Stansted or Gatwick with ryanair you end up paying a huge amount on the train to actually get to London. And it's not always possible to know that you may have to travel so sometimes you don't get the advantage of booking in advance and get fleeced.

City jets fare includes a check in bag too. All things considered city jet seems to offer by far the best value for money.

Ryanairs offering is poor enough to be honest, and I've noticed recently the cost of their flights to London from cork is creeping up, it's often around 60 return if you book in advance, and you still have to factor in that the airports are miles out.

Aerlingus' offering would be good if you are only bringing hand luggage in all fairness.

leahyl · 03-07-2015 1:56pm

FrStone wrote: »

If the times suit though, city jet makes the most sense. If you fly into Stansted or Gatwick with ryanair you end up paying a huge amount on the train to actually get to London. And it's not always possible to know that you may have to travel so sometimes you don't get the advantage of booking in advance and get fleeced.

City jets fare includes a check in bag too. All things considered city jet seems to offer by far the best value for money.

Ryanairs offering is poor enough to be honest, and I've noticed recently the cost of their flights to London from cork is creeping up, it's often around 60 return if you book in advance, and you still have to factor in that the airports are miles out.

Aerlingus' offering would be good if you are only bringing hand luggage in all fairness.

Yeah, you are right. I had no idea that cityjet offered free check in luggage before I posted that! And complimentary food and drink!! Yes, it is the better option by far if you factor in the travelling to and from the city also. Think I will definitely be organising a trip to London soon

roundymac · 06-07-2015 9:52am

Will we be able to get connecting flights from LCY to other destinations with Cityjet.?

Jamie2k9 · 06-07-2015 1:25pm

New DUS route starts May 2016 and 2 weekly.

Will we be able to get connecting flights from LCY to other destinations with Cityjet.?

Cork tweeted a list of 12 connections available.

denhaagenite · 06-07-2015 2:24pm

So it seems the Fly From Cork Facebook page has announced the Cork Dusseldorf flight..... starting in May 2016. Absolute joke, better off not saying anything.

lisasimpson · 06-07-2015 6:55pm

was flicking through the channels there sunday and there was an add on UTV Ireland by cityjet promoting the cork to London city route.... good to see it promoted and might help bring cork airport to people attention esp those in the surrounding counties

Reputable Rog · 08-07-2015 11:32am

Pity the Dusselforf flight isn't starting earlier, still better than nothing. Great destination and really opens up Central Europe from Cork.

Masala · 08-07-2015 12:18pm

Did I hear the Minister announced €1m Marketing Fund for the Airport. Heard on Radio so have no further info on same.

Anyone got a link to this Fund.....is it DTTAS monies or Cork money??

Rhys Essien · 08-07-2015 1:22pm

Masala wrote: »

Did I hear the Minister announced €1m Marketing Fund for the Airport. Heard on Radio so have no further info on same.

Anyone got a link to this Fund.....is it DTTAS monies or Cork money??

€1m marketing fund through Tourism Ireland.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/stakeholders-who-sold-cork-help-secure-major-air-route-341106.html

This is a load of nonsense from Paschal Donohoe anyway.We are still down 1 million passengers just to get back to where we were in the first place.When asked the other day on 96fm about making Cork Airport independent,he just brushed it aside.

thomil · 08-07-2015 6:04pm

Rhys Essien wrote: »

€1m marketing fund through Tourism Ireland.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/stakeholders-who-sold-cork-help-secure-major-air-route-341106.html

This is a load of nonsense from Paschal Donohoe anyway.We are still down 1 million passengers just to get back to where we were in the first place.When asked the other day on 96fm about making Cork Airport independent,he just brushed it aside.

And it originally took three years to get from 2 million passengers to 3 million, and that was back in the boom years of the Celtic Tiger. I just checked the statistics myself. Also, some people tend to forget that the Cardiff route, the London City route, and the new route do Düsseldorf were all secured by the same marketing team that is accused of failing or selling out Cork Airport.
These routes don't pop up overnight, that is a planning process and sales pitch that can last months, if not years until an airline is ready to announce it.
I think it is high time we cut the DAA some slack here. The important part is that we get more connectivity here in Cork, and it should be irrelevant who lands the deals.

pwurple · 09-07-2015 10:33am

EMC pulls one of it's departments from Cork over lack of air connectivity.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/emc-looks-to-uk-amid-connectivity-concerns-341542.html

Douglas Eegit · 09-07-2015 2:15pm

Alot of this is on the back of the storage solution that Aerlingus went for roughly 2 years ago. EMC were in the running for the solution and Tegile won out here.
I think with City Jet this may change, although in the back i don't know who the vendor behind the storage is.

pwurple · 09-07-2015 3:21pm

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

Alot of this is on the back of the storage solution that Aerlingus went for roughly 2 years ago. EMC were in the running for the solution and Tegile won out here.
I think with City Jet this may change, although in the back i don't know who the vendor behind the storage is.

Aer lingus don't have ownership of Cork airport. Are you hatching some conspiracy theory where Aer Lingus dislike EMC so much that they both use different hardware for storage AND stop their ability to fly their workers around?

Douglas Eegit · 09-07-2015 5:17pm

pwurple wrote: »

Aer lingus don't have ownership of Cork airport. Are you hatching some conspiracy theory where Aer Lingus dislike EMC so much that they both use different hardware for storage AND stop their ability to fly their workers around?

Where did i say that?

lisasimpson · 09-07-2015 5:30pm

Hope this will be a wake up call to the powers that be but I doubt it. Yes its 20 positions but apart from the loss of revenue they bring its not a good story on a wider scale for attracting business to Cork. Hopefully with the increase of connectivity to London with cityjet, it may go some way in addressing the issue....

Jamie2k9 · 09-07-2015 5:40pm

The jobs been moved is nothing more than an "excuse".

Clearly DUB connections didn't meet their needs.....

roundymac · 09-07-2015 8:12pm

In fairness there is a big difference between Cork and London airports for connectivity, no contest.

pwurple · 09-07-2015 8:28pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

The jobs been moved is nothing more than an "excuse".

Clearly DUB connections didn't meet their needs.....

I guess I'm old enough to have some buddies long in the tooth in EMC. They constantly mention the problem getting flights out of cork. It's a pain in the backside. Same for any of the other global companies in cork. Apple, j&j etc. the issue has high visibility in corporates.

Direct flights to heaps of business destinations just do not exist anymore, or are scheduled at utterly pointless times/dates for work. Look at that Brussels flight for goodness sake. Useless times.

And then there's the new fiasco of flights being announced, and the route pulled again a few weeks later. Prague, Ibiza for recent examples. It makes the airport seem very unreliable.

What business people want is pretty simple. a flight in the morning, and a flight back in the evening, so they can catch a couple of meetings. It doesn't have to be every day, two or three days a week would do.

Driving to Dublin, getting a flight from there, fly back there, and drive home again is unreasonable for that kind of work.

pwurple · 09-07-2015 8:30pm

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

Where did i say that?

I'm struggling to see the link between air lingus storage decisions, and EMC's inability to fly from the airport. You said it was on the back of that.

Join the dots there for me?

Douglas Eegit · 09-07-2015 9:41pm

pwurple wrote: »

I'm struggling to see the link between air lingus storage decisions, and EMC's inability to fly from the airport. You said it was on the back of that.

Join the dots there for me?

Aerlingus is the sole airline running between the primary hub, Heathrow and cork. EMC now use, when possible, BA between Heathrow and Dublin.
Being in cork, and most of the flight options being with aerlingus this makes this fragile relationship with emc difficult.

Jamie2k9 · 09-07-2015 11:29pm

I'm not saying the lack of Air services to Cork is not part of the problem but them leaving Cork for London is realistically an excuse. DUB has major air links and that wasn't suitable.

snotboogie · 10-07-2015 9:08am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

I'm not saying the lack of Air services to Cork is not part of the problem but them leaving Cork for London is realistically an excuse. DUB has major air links and that wasn't suitable.

Moving the EBC to Dublin wasn't an option, they only have a handful of people in a sales office there. They already have an EBC and full operations in London. Their clients weren't happy with a 3 hour trek down to Cork from DUB or even the shorter drive from Shannon. EMC are putting the squeeze on for a direct Boston flight once a week.

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