The Sunday Game Thread

harpsman · 28-06-2015 11:04PM

According to Des O Rourke was "trawled" on Twitter today. Never heard that one before. Not a fan of Twitter anyway. Alot of empty vessels imo.

Did anyone hear Spillane earlier saying you dont get mismatches in hurling a week after 3 games had something like a 50 point aggregate winning margin.

What's with the 3 piece suits on the sunday game. Are they back in fashion? Cos I don't see them anywhere else. O Ses get up a mew low.

Deag4 · 28-06-2015 11:09PM

Really annoys me the way every week des Cahill uses the word presently incorrectly.

Realt Dearg Sec · 28-06-2015 11:10PM

Deag4 wrote: »

Really annoys me the way every week des Cahill uses the word presently incorrectly.

Not sure what you mean (and also stopped watching a few minutes ago)

Dirty Dingus McGee · 28-06-2015 11:11PM

Deag4 wrote: »

Really annoys me the way every week des Cahill uses the word presently incorrectly.

Does he use it as presently, meaning Next.

I've heard him do it before and that is the correct usage of the word however even though it's correct it always annoyed me as well.

Dashiell Hammet used it in his books a lot and I gave up reading one of them because of his use of the word.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 28-06-2015 11:14PM

Fairly sure I heard BB saying he had won it in his post-match interview? He'll get a bit of slagging for that :pac:

dxhound2005 · 28-06-2015 11:22PM

Is it safe to keep your All Ireland medals in your back pocket?

North of 32 · 28-06-2015 11:26PM

It's safe in Kerry because they're basically worthless.

Mal-Adjusted · 28-06-2015 11:27PM

The camigie coverage was a bit odd, wasn't it? constantly cutting to yer one in the crowd.

Nib · 28-06-2015 11:31PM

THFC wrote: »

Fairly sure I heard BB saying he had won it in his post-match interview? He'll get a bit of slagging for that :pac:

He won the AIB MOTM.

tanko · 28-06-2015 11:36PM

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

The camigie coverage was a bit odd, wasn't it? constantly cutting to yer one in the crowd.

She's the camogie presenter, Anna Geary. They must be trying to make camogie more appealing.

windy shepard henderson · 28-06-2015 11:41PM

tanko wrote: »

She's the camogie presenter, Anna Geary. They must be trying to make camogie more appealing.

well to be fair anna geary is a good start if thats what there trying to do

although the ladies sports deserved better then a short fly on the wall report tg4 do there bit but i always think rte are happy to let them off at it

frostyjacks · 29-06-2015 08:27AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Even during an exciting game like Weatmeath-Meath today, they can only say it's a good game if followed by "not like the poor matches we usually see, blanket defenses etc."

Yeah, I thought this was a bit cringe worthy from Ger, getting up on a soapbox instead of commentating on the match. It was entertaining, but was like watching two drunkards scrapping outside the chipper.

willabur · 29-06-2015 09:52AM

The coverage just gets worse. Cahill is so cringeworthy - trolling!!
Someone needs to have a word with the suits, or at least put the lads in seats where they can sit up a bit. They look like kids getting interviewed on the Toy show.

One thing I thought was better yesterday was Daragh Maloneys anchoring of the main coverage. He wasn't afraid to pull up Brolly on his guff. While Spillane was his usual fluster of statistics and moans about the blanket defence.

Boom__Boom · 29-06-2015 10:04AM

As a contrast have a look at this discussion Sky had

www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/gaa/9897052/the-role-of-the-inter-county-manager

frostyjacks · 29-06-2015 01:48PM

Anybody see that Conor Grimes fella that came on for Louth? He's still on the u21 team, but he looks like he could have Paul O'Connell for breakfast.

First touch: goal. Second touch: turnover. Third touch: point.

One to keep an eye on.

Jayop · 29-06-2015 02:12PM

Sky really have shown RTE up in their coverage over the last two weekends. The panel is infinitely better at actual punditry, the commentators and co commentators seem to understand the modern game, the rules and most surprisingly what actually deserves a black card.

However the biggest difference is easily the fact that they don't hate football which the RTE lads seem to do. Constant negative comparisons to football especially when they keep complaining there's only six teams in the top bracket really irks me. How many teams realistically can win the hurling. One, two or three?

Football is in good shape, there's a good game for every bad game and plenty of competitive matches. This notion it was so much better in days gone by is rubbish.

passremarkable · 29-06-2015 10:24PM

Watching it last night and can never understand how Martin McHugh is allowed on.
He is dreadful, at some points I cant even understand what he is saying and it sounds like he doesn't even finish his sentences.
And he comes out with garbage, having a go at gooch previously and then syaing leitrim should be the same standard as the top teams. good man martin.. clueless!

theoneeyedman · 29-06-2015 10:44PM

Jayop wrote: »

Sky really have shown RTE up in their coverage over the last two weekends. The panel is infinitely better at actual punditry, the commentators and co commentators seem to understand the modern game, the rules and most surprisingly what actually deserves a black card.

However the biggest difference is easily the fact that they don't hate football which the RTE lads seem to do. Constant negative comparisons to football especially when they keep complaining there's only six teams in the top bracket really irks me. How many teams realistically can win the hurling. One, two or three?

Football is in good shape, there's a good game for every bad game and plenty of competitive matches. This notion it was so much better in days gone by is rubbish.

Someone (I think Spillane) actually said yesterday that you get heaps of one sided games in football, but unlike in hurling where that doesn't happen. Well, I saw 2 very one sided hurling games last week

padd b1975 · 29-06-2015 10:49PM

passremarkable wrote: »

Watching it last night and can never understand how Martin McHugh is allowed on.
He is dreadful, at some points I cant even understand what he is saying and it sounds like he doesn't even finish his sentences.
And he comes out with garbage, having a go at gooch previously and then syaing leitrim should be the same standard as the top teams. good man martin.. clueless!

That's interesting.......

tanko · 29-06-2015 11:36PM

passremarkable wrote: »

Watching it last night and can never understand how Martin McHugh is allowed on.
He is dreadful, at some points I cant even understand what he is saying and it sounds like he doesn't even finish his sentences.
And he comes out with garbage, having a go at gooch previously and then syaing leitrim should be the same standard as the top teams. good man martin.. clueless!

I still prefer him to Ciaran Whelan, Spillane, O Rourke or Brolly all the same even though his point about Leitrim was rubbish. The look on Tomas O Se's face when he told the joke about the Kerry women was priceless.

davegrohl48 · 29-06-2015 11:52PM

Jayop wrote: »

Sky really have shown RTE up in their coverage over the last two weekends. The panel is infinitely better at actual punditry, the commentators and co commentators seem to understand the modern game, the rules and most surprisingly what actually deserves a black card.

However the biggest difference is easily the fact that they don't hate football which the RTE lads seem to do. Constant negative comparisons to football especially when they keep complaining there's only six teams in the top bracket really irks me. How many teams realistically can win the hurling. One, two or three?

Football is in good shape, there's a good game for every bad game and plenty of competitive matches. This notion it was so much better in days gone by is rubbish.

I recommend anyone on either GAA Go or on actual Sky to tune into the Sky Sports coverage. I was cynical enough that they would bring the kind of analysis I have long thought was needed. The punditry is an absolute draw into the watching of the game. I was looking forward to the punditry for Donegal - Derry after seeing how good it was for Roscommon - Sligo.
Roscommon - Sligo was a case in point. From RTE we would have got no more insight than:
- Sligo were hungrier, they player better football, they won the breaking ball
- Roscommon took Sligo for granted.
Jim McGuinness went into the level of detail of the number of metres the Sligo midfielders should stand back. The height of the Sligo midfielders. The positioning of two in and two out of the Sligo forwards.
He made many points about Roscommon winning the kickout battle. Then he wraps it all into an overall high level main point about Sligo getting their approach and detail spot on in comparison to Roscommon. That game would have just been a run of the mill plucky underdogs story on RTE. Which would do a complete disservice to Sligo and the viewer.
McGuinness is just brilliant on detail.
The tactics board screen where Peter Canavan goes over specific tactics is very interesting as well. By comparison RTE are left seriously behind.

Jayop · 30-06-2015 01:46AM

Big time Dave. I'll 100% be watching all the semis and finals on sky when given the choice of both stations.

danganabu · 30-06-2015 05:16PM

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Someone (I think Spillane) actually said yesterday that you get heaps of one sided games in football, but unlike in hurling where that doesn't happen. Well, I saw 2 very one sided hurling games last week

Although he made a bit of a mess of explaining it, I think what he was trying to say was you could have a reasonably competitive game of hurling but someone could end up winning by 8 or 9 points but that in football that would be a severe beating, twas a bad point badly made!!

Jayop · 30-06-2015 05:21PM

It's a bit of a moot point given that on average hurling games have a much higher score than football given how much easier (not for me) it is to score in hurling. A five point win in football is probably equal to a 9 point win in hurling in terms of a beating.

davegrohl48 · 30-06-2015 05:27PM

Jayop wrote: »

Big time Dave. I'll 100% be watching all the semis and finals on sky when given the choice of both stations.

Shocked to say this but I probably would choose Skys analysis of the final if possible. Would really look forward to any preview programmes.

keeponhurling · 30-06-2015 05:49PM

Is it too simple to say that comparing Sky and RTE is comparing a private company out to maximize profits, and a public company where they have a cushy number and poor quality is less of a concern ?

Sometimes in a private company, management need to make hard decisions to ensure the most competitive product.
People get pulled up on underperformance.

Like most public service departments, RTE has a mix of some very good people who give it their best, and some who are just coasting along.
The ones who approach their job with enthusiasm and professionalism are the ones who are most engaged.
The ones who slump back across the seat while sneering at others who speak, or who turn up intoxicated or abuse other employees, generally not so applied to their work.

Jayop · 30-06-2015 06:28PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Is it too simple to say that comparing Sky and RTE is comparing a private company out to maximize profits, and a public company where they have a cushy number and poor quality is less of a concern ?

Sometimes in a private company, management need to make hard decisions to ensure the most competitive product.
People get pulled up on underperformance.

Like most public service departments, RTE has a mix of some very good people who give it their best, and some who are just coasting along.
The ones who approach their job with enthusiasm and professionalism are the ones who are most engaged.
The ones who slump back across the seat while sneering at others who speak, or who turn up intoxicated or abuse other employees, generally not so applied to their work.

I think given the standard of Sport coverage on RTE you've got to say that's 100% accurate. Sky simply wouldn't stand for the nonsense that goes on at RTE, Spillane, Brolly, Dunphy, Giles, and the lot would be out on their arses long ago. Brolly and Dunphy have both had multiple single incidents that would be considered sackable offences in a private company yet still keep on trucking and that's not even getting to their complete incompetence when it comes to the actual core of their job.

There is good people in RTE, their hurling coverage seems decent but I'm not a hurling man so wouldn't know too much. At least they're positive about the sport. The Rugby coverage is generally enjoyable but I know Hook is like Marmite. I've taken to Maloney and some of the lads they brought in to help with the football like Saddlier and Cunningham are decent. On the whole though for any big event they revert to the "senior" analysts and they are a joke.

davegrohl48 · 30-06-2015 06:41PM

The game is more enjoyable for any basic knowledgable GAA viewer when the factors and stats of success or failure are properly presented.
For too long each winning team was either hungrier or had better forwards. Then non-stop harping on about pace fitness n intensity like they were novel new elements with each season.
Zero absolutely zero in terms of what a Jim McGuinness looks at when analysing a team. Kevin McStay had one good video on Kerry footpassing few years ago. Very little stats stuff just all hunger n better footballers won.

Nidgeweasel · 30-06-2015 07:44PM

passremarkable wrote: »

Watching it last night and can never understand how Martin McHugh is allowed on.
He is dreadful, at some points I cant even understand what he is saying and it sounds like he doesn't even finish his sentences.
And he comes out with garbage, having a go at gooch previously and then syaing leitrim should be the same standard as the top teams. good man martin.. clueless!

He's a dreadful communicator. The two sons aren't great either. They rush their sentences.

"It's interesting Des that....[insert something not interesting at all]"

Kalyke · 01-07-2015 08:36AM

passremarkable wrote: »

Watching it last night and can never understand how Martin McHugh is allowed on.
He is dreadful, at some points I cant even understand what he is saying and it sounds like he doesn't even finish his sentences.
And he comes out with garbage, having a go at gooch previously and then syaing leitrim should be the same standard as the top teams. good man martin.. clueless!

How can any one who describes the Gooch as a one trick pony be expected to be taken seriously?

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