Seat Hoggers

Future Primitive · 29-06-2015 02:50PM

Candie wrote: »

He paid for a seat for himself. He didn't pay for one for his bag.

His bag is allowed on the bus without paying a fee for it. You're not paying for a seat per sé, you're paying to be transported from one point to another. Seats are there for convenience and comfort.

I've no problem if someone wants to sit comfortably on a bus with heir bag beside them provided there are plenty of other seats around them and they're more than willing to move when other people get on.

To say that's the height of ignorance is pretty silly.

Knex* · 29-06-2015 02:51PM

Candie wrote: »

It's not hypocrisy when you expect others to do without a utility they paid for for your convenience though, right?

Your calling someone out for having the height of ignorance when they put a bag on the seat beside them when they're are plenty of empty seats around, simply because they want their own space. They're not even denying anyone else space, just a particular seat beside them.

You, on the other hand, are quite happy to make me, or anyone else, endure a pretty uncomfortable journey because you feel like its your right, just because the option is available.

That's far more ignorant in my eyes.

Brian? · 29-06-2015 02:52PM

Candie wrote: »

It's not tolerable, not if I want an hour or so of sleep. If you're constricted, then get a seat with extra leg room, instead of expecting other people to do without.

It's inconsiderate to expect others not to fully utilise the seats they paid for for your convenience.

I used to regularly request emergency exit seats, now these cost extra. I was recently on a flight Heathrow- Dallas, couldn't even pay for extra leg room the flight was full, I politely asked the person in front of me not to recline their seat. Common decency and politeness solve a love of problems.

Agricola · 29-06-2015 02:53PM

Candie wrote: »

It's not tolerable, not if I want an hour or so of sleep. If you're constricted, then get a seat with extra leg room, instead of expecting other people to do without.

It's inconsiderate to expect others not to fully utilise the seats they paid for for your convenience.

I dont need a seat with extra leg room. The regular seat is fine. I should pay more for a seat near the emergency doors just so I wont mind as much if the person in front decides to lie back on my chest for a kip? No.

Sleep before the flight or after it. Or fly first class with cabins! Don't make someone else miserable for an hour or 2 just because you couldn't give a shít about anyone else.
I'd recline my seat if there was a child behind me and I knew there would be so space issue for them. Not otherwise.

29-06-2015 02:53PM

Knex. wrote: »

You, on the other hand, are quite happy to make me, or anyone else, endure a pretty uncomfortable journey because you feel like its your right, just because the option is available.

No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.

foggy_lad · 29-06-2015 02:53PM

Future Primitive wrote: »

His bag is allowed on the bus without paying a fee for it. You're not paying for a seat per sé, you're paying to be transported from one point to another. Seats are there for convenience and comfort.

I've no problem if someone wants to sit comfortably on a bus with heir bag beside them provided there are plenty of other seats around them and they're more than willing to move when other people get on.

To say that's the height of ignorance is pretty silly.

Anything bigger than a briefcase or laptop backpack should be underneath with the luggage. It is unsafe to have large bags in the passenger compartments of buses or along the aisles of buses and trains.

fullstop · 29-06-2015 02:55PM

Egginacup wrote: »

Then you should complain to the airline that the seats recline and that you want planes fitted with seats that don't go back.
If I want to get an couple hours sleep on a long flight, I'm putting the seat back. If you're behind me and you too put your seat back and go to sleep then what's the problem?

I have a problem with arseholes chattering to each other loudly on an overnight flight when everyone else is trying to sleep or opening their window blind when it's dawning and flooding the bloody cabin with glaring light.

If you stay awake like them then what's the problem

Murt10 · 29-06-2015 02:57PM

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

Just listening to Sean Moncrief and they're talking about the retards who hog two seats on DARTS / buses etc.

Drives me nuts to see some wanker sat sprawled across two seats, or using a bag to take up the seat beside them. Always make it my business to sit my oversized arse beside them in a slightly passive aggressive manner.

So I'm not the only awkward curmudgeonly bast!d on the train.

I also love waking up dickheads who are pretending to be asleep and have their bag on their seat beside them, and telling them, not asking them, to move their bag or if they are occupying two seats telling them I want to sit there.

I just love the dirty look I get when I do something like this. Makes the whole experience worthwhile to know that I have caused them some annoyance and the more the batter. I hope it makes the people, who are to timid to ask the sleeper, happier too.

I was coming home from Town a year ago and getting off the train. There there was a young wan late teens/early twenties, with her feet up on the seat as comfortable as you like, texting away on her phone. "HERE, GET YOUR FEET DOWN OFF THE SEAT" came out of me in a loud voice. I wasn't expecting it. The girl looked embarrassed and obeyed.

Long live Victor Meldrew

fullstop · 29-06-2015 02:59PM

Candie wrote: »

No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.

Yeah but it's common decency. I was on a 24 hour flight a few weeks ago. I was lucky enough to get an exit row so there was nobody in front of me. When I wanted to recline my seat to go to sleep, I put it back less than half of how far it would have gone because i did't want to be an inconsiderate pr!ck to the person behind me. I hate that attitude of 'I'm comfortable so fcuk everyone else'.

29-06-2015 02:59PM

Agricola wrote: »

I dont need a seat with extra leg room. The regular seat is fine. I should pay more for a seat near the emergency doors just so I wont mind as much if the person in front decides to lie back on my chest for a kip? No.

Sleep before the flight or after it. Or fly first class with cabins! Don't make someone else miserable for an hour or 2 just because you couldn't give a shít about anyone else.
I'd recline my seat if there was a child behind me and I knew there would be so space issue for them. Not otherwise.

It's not a case of not giving a sh!t. It's a case of you expecting the total stranger in front to go without a utility they paid for. Expecting strangers to not sleep on a flight for your convenience is entitled in the extreme.

I can't get my head around people expecting other passengers to minimise their comfort so they can maximise theirs.

Butterface · 29-06-2015 02:59PM

I used to have to take an express bus between Dublin and Galway quite regularly. The seat space is tiny and my knees actually touch the back of the seat in front of me. So any time a person in front of me attempted to recline the seat back it simply would not move for them..

Agricola · 29-06-2015 02:59PM

Candie wrote: »

No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.

You're basically saying " I paid some money for this seat and I intend to use it fully, mainly in order to completely maxmise my own comfort levels. If that happens to completely minimize the comfort of the person behind me, well tough shít"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why the world is one screwed up place.

awec · 29-06-2015 03:00PM

People who recline on planes are dickheads.

I had some ignorant prat of a woman and her goon of a husband recline the whole way from JFK to Dublin and she had the cheek to turn around with this false concern asking does my seat not recline too? :mad:

29-06-2015 03:01PM

Agricola wrote: »

You're basically saying " I paid some money for this seat and I intend to use it fully, mainly in order to completely maxmise my own comfort levels. If that happens to completely minimize the comfort of the person behind me, well tough ****"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why the world is one screwed up place.

And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

The world is screwed up alright.

fullstop · 29-06-2015 03:02PM

Candie wrote: »

It's not a case of not giving a sh!t. It's a case of you expecting the total stranger in front to go without a utility they paid for. Expecting strangers to not sleep on a flight for your convenience is entitled in the extreme.

I can't get my head around people expecting other passengers to minimise their comfort so they can maximise theirs.

You can recline your seat enough to be comfortable enough to sleep without the person behind you having to look at the top of your head at close quarters and not be able to watch their monitor.

brevity · 29-06-2015 03:03PM

Ya, seat reclining is lousy imo but since the feature is there people will use it. It generally does suck for the person who's space is being taken. Even if it seems small.

I'm not a huge and of Ryanair but removing this from their seats is a plus point imo.

awec · 29-06-2015 03:03PM

Candie wrote: »

And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

The world is screwed up alright.

I think you're the one saying that. You are the one arguing that severely inconveniencing and often discomforting the person behind you is ok cause you want to be a wee bit more comfortable and lie back as opposed to sitting up like the overwhelming majority of people are more than happy to do.

29-06-2015 03:04PM

fullstop wrote: »

You can reline your seat enough to be comfortable enough to sleep without the person behind you having to look at the top of your head at close quarters and not be able to watch their monitor.

Economy class seats do not recline that much, a few inches at most.

Kev W · 29-06-2015 03:05PM

Candie wrote: »

And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

The world is screwed up alright.

Clearly you're the one whose comfort is more important. You're YOU, after all!

fullstop · 29-06-2015 03:05PM

Candie wrote: »

And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

The world is screwed up alright.

Maybe he's thinking he doesn't want to be a cnut to the person behind by having to be lying back on top of them...

29-06-2015 03:06PM

awec wrote: »

I think you're the one saying that. You are the one arguing that severely inconveniencing and often discomforting the person behind you is ok cause you want to be a wee bit more comfortable and lie back as opposed to sitting up like the overwhelming majority of people are more than happy to do.

No, I'm saying the seats are designed to be used and if someone pitches up on a cheap flight and expects other passengers to go without for their convenience, that they'd be better off booking the right seat instead of putting people out.

That said, if someone politely asked me not to then I wouldn't. I just don't get the sense of entitlement that someone else has to do without, because you want extra room.

Kev W · 29-06-2015 03:06PM

Candie wrote: »

I can't get my head around people expecting other passengers to minimise their comfort so they can maximise theirs.

Apparently yes, you can.

gerrybbadd · 29-06-2015 03:06PM

kneemos wrote: »

Who wants some smelly pervert cnut sitting beside you.
Have ye seen the sort that use the Lewis?...ugh.

Daniel Day?

fullstop · 29-06-2015 03:07PM

Candie wrote: »

Economy class seats do not recline that much, a few inches at most.

You obviously haven't done much long haul flying if you believe that.

Luke92 · 29-06-2015 03:07PM

Knex. wrote: »

I'm 6ft3 and have had people practically try and break my knees by putting their chairs back. 4 inches is a lot when your dealing in what is already confined space.

Shouldn't even be an option.

Pre purchase seats with extra leg room. Front row is best! I always try get front row for long haul.

29-06-2015 03:07PM

fullstop wrote: »

Maybe he's thinking he doesn't want to be a cnut to the person behind by having to be lying back on top of them...

Because he's being a cnut to the person in front by expecting them to sit bolt upright because that's they way he likes it?

Menas · 29-06-2015 03:07PM

Candie wrote: »

Economy class seats do not recline that much, a few inches at most.

Large planes have seats that recline more than smaller ones. And IIRC Airbus seats go back further than Boeing ones. It can be significant.

Kev W · 29-06-2015 03:07PM

Candie wrote: »

No, I'm saying the seats are designed to be used and if someone pitches up on a cheap flight and expects other passengers to go without for their convenience, that they'd be better off booking the right seat instead of putting people out.

That said, if someone politely asked me not to then I wouldn't. I just don't get the sense of entitlement that someone else has to do without, because you want extra room.

It's not looking for extra room, it's wanting to keep the bit of room you've already got. You're the one expanding into someone else's space in this scenario.

29-06-2015 03:07PM

fullstop wrote: »

You obviously haven't done much long haul flying if you believe that.

I do, but I've the good sense not to fly enconomy.

RollieFingers · 29-06-2015 03:08PM

Candie wrote: »

Height of ignorance.

Build a bridge and get over it :rolleyes:

If there's plenty of free seats available, my bag is sitting beside me, not on some manky, sticky DART floor!

Obviously the bag goes on the lap if the train is busy!

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