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Seat Hoggers

  • 29-06-2015 12:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    Just listening to Sean Moncrief and they're talking about the retards who hog two seats on DARTS / buses etc.

    Drives me nuts to see some wanker sat sprawled across two seats, or using a bag to take up the seat beside them. Always make it my business to sit my oversized arse beside them in a slightly passive aggressive manner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Almost as bad as the self absorbed dickhats who put their seats right back in airplanes, and so on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Knex. wrote: »
    As bad as the self absorbed dickhats who put their seats right back in airplanes, and so on.

    Oh come on. It doesn't go right back, only about 4 inches of your precious air is taken.

    Now, if you'd have said dickhats who recline when you've your fiddly little meal on your tray, then I'd agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Oh come on. It doesn't go right back, only about 4 inches of your precious air is taken.

    Now, if you'd have said dickhats who recline when you've your fiddly little meal on your tray, then I'd agree

    I'm 6ft3 and have had people practically try and break my knees by putting their chairs back. 4 inches is a lot when your dealing in what is already confined space.

    Shouldn't even be an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    When you ask them to move they make you feel like you've personally violated them.

    *tut* *sigh* *harrumph*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Knex. wrote: »
    I'm 6ft3 and have had people practically try and break my knees by putting their chairs back.

    Shouldn't even be an option.

    Sorry to hear that. But still, you're paranoid. They're reclining not trying to break your knees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I am waiting for someone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Who wants some smelly pervert cnut sitting beside you.
    Have ye seen the sort that use the Lewis?...ugh.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knex. wrote: »
    Almost as bad as the self absorbed dickhats who put their seats right back in airplanes, and so on.

    If I pay for a plane seat, and that seat reclines, then I'm okay with putting it back. It's not my responsibility to ensure tall passengers have enough space, that's the airlines job. If you have a problem its with the airline, not with me doing what I paid to be able to do.

    And economy seats don't go 'right back'. If I'm on a 8 hour economy class flight, I'm not sitting bolt upright so the airline gets away with treating passengers like cattle or taking the blame because they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Just listening to Sean Moncrief and they're talking about the retards who hog two seats on DARTS / buses etc.

    Drives me nuts to see some wanker sat sprawled across two seats, or using a bag to take up the seat beside them. Always make it my business to sit my oversized arse beside them in a slightly passive aggressive manner.

    This one of my pet peeves on public transport - right up there with men who insist on doing the splits on their seats, and those who either refuse to move to let you in or out of your seat or move but shoot you dirty looks as they are doing it.

    A bit of common decency and manners costs nothing folks.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    Knex. wrote: »
    Almost as bad as the self absorbed dickhats who put their seats right back in airplanes, and so on.

    Then you should complain to the airline that the seats recline and that you want planes fitted with seats that don't go back.
    If I want to get an couple hours sleep on a long flight, I'm putting the seat back. If you're behind me and you too put your seat back and go to sleep then what's the problem?

    I have a problem with arseholes chattering to each other loudly on an overnight flight when everyone else is trying to sleep or opening their window blind when it's dawning and flooding the bloody cabin with glaring light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Knex. wrote: »
    I'm 6ft3 and have had people practically try and break my knees by putting their chairs back. 4 inches is a lot when your dealing in what is already confined space.

    Shouldn't even be an option.

    Fly Ryanair where the seats don't recline or book a seat near the emergency exit which has more legroom.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Fly Ryanair where the seats don't recline or book a seat near the emergency exit which has more legroom.

    Good idea.

    People aren't self-absorbed cnuts for using a seat the way it was designed to be used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    I'd always plonk the bag beside me if the carriage was empty, there's plenty of spare 2 seaters knocking about, don't be sitting on top of me thank you ver much. Different story when it gets busy mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Fly Ryanair where the seats don't recline.
    This is what I always do. Can't beat it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Knex. wrote: »
    I'm 6ft3 and have had people practically try and break my knees by putting their chairs back. 4 inches is a lot when your dealing in what is already confined space.

    Shouldn't even be an option.

    Tough, fly business class if you want more room, or pay for the seat in front if you want control of its position.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The very odd time I use a bus or train I put the bag up on the seat beside me, particularly if there are totally free seats down further.

    I want my space not to be crushed in beside someone else.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The very odd time I use a bus or train I put the bag up on the seat beside me, particular if there are totally free seats down further.

    I want my space not to be crushed in beside someone else.

    Height of ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Then you should complain to the airline that the seats recline and that you want planes fitted with seats that don't go back.
    If I want to get an couple hours sleep on a long flight, I'm putting the seat back. If you're behind me and you too put your seat back and go to sleep then what's the problem?

    I have a problem with arseholes chattering to each other loudly on an overnight flight when everyone else is trying to sleep or opening their window blind when it's dawning and flooding the bloody cabin with glaring light.

    Eye mask & ear plugs ought to cure that hypocrisy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Knex. wrote: »
    Shouldn't even be an option.

    One of my main reasons for travelling Ryanair whenever possible! Whatever about long haul flights... you just know anyone doing this on a bus is an inconsiderate arsehole.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Candie wrote: »
    Height of ignorance.

    I actually don't get why its the height of ignorance if there are plenty of other seats particularly if there are plenty of other pairs of seats empty?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    People on buses who bring on their suitcase and plonk it on the seat or in front of the seat beside them piss me off and I usually curse them under my breath and wish they would fall out the window. Many people on the train and bus like to think one ticket cover them for two seats. They want to be too posh for public transportation but can't afford a car.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I actually don't get why its the height of ignorance if there are plenty of other seats particularly if there are plenty of other pairs of seats empty?

    He paid for a seat for himself. He didn't pay for one for his bag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Public transport stenches of poor people, I avoid using it.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Candie wrote: »
    Height of ignorance.

    I don't really care.

    If there genuinely are very very few seats left I will remove the bag but if there are places with two seats left or if there are plenty of people with one seat beside them and no bag on the seat the person can sit there. I like my space, be able to sit back and not have my two legs glued together to allow someone space to sit beside me if they have an alternative.

    Its extremely rare I'm on a bus anyway as I hate the things so will drive the vast majority of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Candie wrote: »
    Good idea.

    People aren't self-absorbed cnuts for using a seat the way it was designed to be used.

    No, maybe not self absortbed cnuts but inconsiderate arséholes :D

    Im only 6ft but Ive long legs so unless im in the aisle seat anyone reclining in front of me severely constricts what is already an uncomfortable situation.
    I dont need my knees crushed and a head rest up in my face for the whole flight just so someone can have a nice old relaxing lie back. Everyone keeps their seats up, everyone has a tolerable time.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agricola wrote: »
    No, maybe not self absortbed cnuts but inconsiderate arséholes :D

    Im only 6ft but Ive long legs so unless im in the aisle seat anyone reclining in front of me severely constricts what is already an uncomfortable situation.
    I dont need my knees crushed and a head rest up in my face for the whole flight just so someone can have a nice old relaxing lie back. Everyone keeps their seats up, everyone has a tolerable time.

    It's not tolerable, not if I want an hour or so of sleep. If you're constricted, then get a seat with extra leg room, instead of expecting other people to do without.

    It's inconsiderate to expect others not to fully utilise the seats they paid for for your convenience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    All those who are peddling the "tough, get over it" line with regards to the seat reclining, is it safe to assume none of ye are in anyway tall, and as such don't even remotely comprehend how uncomfortable it is for any tall person to be sitting behind someone with a fully reclined seat?

    As pointed out above, in a bus its even worse again.
    Candie wrote: »
    Height of ignorance.

    The hypocrisy is a little amusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Candie wrote: »
    Height of ignorance.

    No it's not, there are plenty of other free seats. It's not ignorant to want to have your own space when there's plenty of it available.


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knex. wrote: »
    All those who are peddling the "tough, get over it" line with regards to the seat reclining, is it safe to assume none of ye are in anyway tall, and as such don't even remotely comprehend how uncomfortable it is for any tall person to be sitting behind someone with a fully reclined seat?

    As pointed out above, in a bus its even worse.



    The hypocrisy is a little amusing.

    It's not hypocrisy when you expect others to do without a utility they paid for for your convenience though, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Future Primitive


    Candie wrote: »
    He paid for a seat for himself. He didn't pay for one for his bag.

    His bag is allowed on the bus without paying a fee for it. You're not paying for a seat per sé, you're paying to be transported from one point to another. Seats are there for convenience and comfort.

    I've no problem if someone wants to sit comfortably on a bus with heir bag beside them provided there are plenty of other seats around them and they're more than willing to move when other people get on.

    To say that's the height of ignorance is pretty silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Candie wrote: »
    It's not hypocrisy when you expect others to do without a utility they paid for for your convenience though, right?

    Your calling someone out for having the height of ignorance when they put a bag on the seat beside them when they're are plenty of empty seats around, simply because they want their own space. They're not even denying anyone else space, just a particular seat beside them.

    You, on the other hand, are quite happy to make me, or anyone else, endure a pretty uncomfortable journey because you feel like its your right, just because the option is available.

    That's far more ignorant in my eyes.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Candie wrote: »
    It's not tolerable, not if I want an hour or so of sleep. If you're constricted, then get a seat with extra leg room, instead of expecting other people to do without.

    It's inconsiderate to expect others not to fully utilise the seats they paid for for your convenience.

    I used to regularly request emergency exit seats, now these cost extra. I was recently on a flight Heathrow- Dallas, couldn't even pay for extra leg room the flight was full, I politely asked the person in front of me not to recline their seat. Common decency and politeness solve a love of problems.

    they/them/theirs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Candie wrote: »
    It's not tolerable, not if I want an hour or so of sleep. If you're constricted, then get a seat with extra leg room, instead of expecting other people to do without.

    It's inconsiderate to expect others not to fully utilise the seats they paid for for your convenience.


    I dont need a seat with extra leg room. The regular seat is fine. I should pay more for a seat near the emergency doors just so I wont mind as much if the person in front decides to lie back on my chest for a kip? No.

    Sleep before the flight or after it. Or fly first class with cabins! Don't make someone else miserable for an hour or 2 just because you couldn't give a shít about anyone else.
    I'd recline my seat if there was a child behind me and I knew there would be so space issue for them. Not otherwise.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knex. wrote: »

    You, on the other hand, are quite happy to make me, or anyone else, endure a pretty uncomfortable journey because you feel like its your right, just because the option is available.

    No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

    If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    His bag is allowed on the bus without paying a fee for it. You're not paying for a seat per sé, you're paying to be transported from one point to another. Seats are there for convenience and comfort.

    I've no problem if someone wants to sit comfortably on a bus with heir bag beside them provided there are plenty of other seats around them and they're more than willing to move when other people get on.

    To say that's the height of ignorance is pretty silly.
    Anything bigger than a briefcase or laptop backpack should be underneath with the luggage. It is unsafe to have large bags in the passenger compartments of buses or along the aisles of buses and trains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Egginacup wrote: »
    Then you should complain to the airline that the seats recline and that you want planes fitted with seats that don't go back.
    If I want to get an couple hours sleep on a long flight, I'm putting the seat back. If you're behind me and you too put your seat back and go to sleep then what's the problem?

    I have a problem with arseholes chattering to each other loudly on an overnight flight when everyone else is trying to sleep or opening their window blind when it's dawning and flooding the bloody cabin with glaring light.

    If you stay awake like them then what's the problem ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Murt10


    Just listening to Sean Moncrief and they're talking about the retards who hog two seats on DARTS / buses etc.

    Drives me nuts to see some wanker sat sprawled across two seats, or using a bag to take up the seat beside them. Always make it my business to sit my oversized arse beside them in a slightly passive aggressive manner.

    So I'm not the only awkward curmudgeonly bast!d on the train.

    I also love waking up dickheads who are pretending to be asleep and have their bag on their seat beside them, and telling them, not asking them, to move their bag or if they are occupying two seats telling them I want to sit there.

    I just love the dirty look I get when I do something like this. Makes the whole experience worthwhile to know that I have caused them some annoyance and the more the batter. I hope it makes the people, who are to timid to ask the sleeper, happier too.

    I was coming home from Town a year ago and getting off the train. There there was a young wan late teens/early twenties, with her feet up on the seat as comfortable as you like, texting away on her phone. "HERE, GET YOUR FEET DOWN OFF THE SEAT" came out of me in a loud voice. I wasn't expecting it. The girl looked embarrassed and obeyed.

    Long live Victor Meldrew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Candie wrote: »
    No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

    If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.

    Yeah but it's common decency. I was on a 24 hour flight a few weeks ago. I was lucky enough to get an exit row so there was nobody in front of me. When I wanted to recline my seat to go to sleep, I put it back less than half of how far it would have gone because i did't want to be an inconsiderate pr!ck to the person behind me. I hate that attitude of 'I'm comfortable so fcuk everyone else'.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agricola wrote: »
    I dont need a seat with extra leg room. The regular seat is fine. I should pay more for a seat near the emergency doors just so I wont mind as much if the person in front decides to lie back on my chest for a kip? No.

    Sleep before the flight or after it. Or fly first class with cabins! Don't make someone else miserable for an hour or 2 just because you couldn't give a shít about anyone else.
    I'd recline my seat if there was a child behind me and I knew there would be so space issue for them. Not otherwise.

    It's not a case of not giving a sh!t. It's a case of you expecting the total stranger in front to go without a utility they paid for. Expecting strangers to not sleep on a flight for your convenience is entitled in the extreme.

    I can't get my head around people expecting other passengers to minimise their comfort so they can maximise theirs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Butterface


    I used to have to take an express bus between Dublin and Galway quite regularly. The seat space is tiny and my knees actually touch the back of the seat in front of me. So any time a person in front of me attempted to recline the seat back it simply would not move for them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Candie wrote: »
    No, I don't feel like it's my right to make you uncomfortable. It is my right to use the seat I paid for though, and it's not your right to expect me not to because you're tall.

    If you need extra room, book the right seat rather than expect strangers to cater for you by doing without themselves.

    You're basically saying " I paid some money for this seat and I intend to use it fully, mainly in order to completely maxmise my own comfort levels. If that happens to completely minimize the comfort of the person behind me, well tough shít"

    And that ladies and gentlemen, is why the world is one screwed up place.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,423 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    People who recline on planes are dickheads.

    I had some ignorant prat of a woman and her goon of a husband recline the whole way from JFK to Dublin and she had the cheek to turn around with this false concern asking does my seat not recline too? :mad:


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agricola wrote: »
    You're basically saying " I paid some money for this seat and I intend to use it fully, mainly in order to completely maxmise my own comfort levels. If that happens to completely minimize the comfort of the person behind me, well tough ****"

    And that ladies and gentlemen, is why the world is one screwed up place.

    And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

    The world is screwed up alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Candie wrote: »
    It's not a case of not giving a sh!t. It's a case of you expecting the total stranger in front to go without a utility they paid for. Expecting strangers to not sleep on a flight for your convenience is entitled in the extreme.

    I can't get my head around people expecting other passengers to minimise their comfort so they can maximise theirs.

    You can recline your seat enough to be comfortable enough to sleep without the person behind you having to look at the top of your head at close quarters and not be able to watch their monitor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭brevity


    Ya, seat reclining is lousy imo but since the feature is there people will use it. It generally does suck for the person who's space is being taken. Even if it seems small.

    I'm not a huge and of Ryanair but removing this from their seats is a plus point imo.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,423 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Candie wrote: »
    And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

    The world is screwed up alright.

    I think you're the one saying that. You are the one arguing that severely inconveniencing and often discomforting the person behind you is ok cause you want to be a wee bit more comfortable and lie back as opposed to sitting up like the overwhelming majority of people are more than happy to do.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fullstop wrote: »
    You can reline your seat enough to be comfortable enough to sleep without the person behind you having to look at the top of your head at close quarters and not be able to watch their monitor.

    Economy class seats do not recline that much, a few inches at most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Candie wrote: »
    And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

    The world is screwed up alright.

    Clearly you're the one whose comfort is more important. You're YOU, after all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Candie wrote: »
    And you're basically saying that you don't care how much you inconvenience the person in front of you. as long as you're comfortable. So your comfort is more important than theirs?

    The world is screwed up alright.

    Maybe he's thinking he doesn't want to be a cnut to the person behind by having to be lying back on top of them...


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