Cork GAA Discussion Thread

sean mac · 25-06-2015 03:17PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

What do people make of Tompkins and mulchay wanting county champions having captain of county teams back
I'd be against it

Total utter nonsense just like mulcahys 'analysis' on the sunday game

thinkstoomuch1 · 25-06-2015 03:20PM

sean mac wrote: »

Total utter nonsense just like mulcahys 'analysis' on the sunday game

I didn't see it what was it like?

danganabu · 25-06-2015 03:23PM

Orizio wrote: »

Of all the things they can come up with to improve hurling they propose this? Completely irrelevant.

To be fair to the boys, I read the article and they were at a press day to mark teh 25th anniversay of the 1990 double winning teams and I got the impression from it that it was an off the cuff remark that was picked up on, it was probably said somewhat tounge in cheek.

commonsense. · 25-06-2015 03:33PM

danganabu wrote:

To be fair to the boys, I read the article and they were at a press day to mark teh 25th anniversay of the 1990 double winning teams and I got the impression from it that it was an off the cuff remark that was picked up on, it was probably said somewhat tounge in cheek.

A slow news day I'd say. De Paper happy to get a headline the the two bies happy to get their picture in De Paper.

CORKDOUBLE · 25-06-2015 03:37PM

The two BIES were two great great players and captains they can say what they like both Cork heros .

youngbob · 25-06-2015 04:13PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

What do people make of Tompkins and mulchay wanting county champions having captain of county teams back
I'd be against it

I don't know too much about the footballers to comment but the last 2 hurling captains at times have been fortunate to hold their place at times. IMO it probably go to a player who is both cool under pressure & has awareness of what happening on the field. Its not always the best player makes the ideal captain. A good captain like a good coach should be able to get the best out of the players in the panel, some you coax others you give a bollicing. It takes different strokes for different folks

thinkstoomuch1 · 25-06-2015 05:04PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

The two BIES were two great great players and captains they can say what they like both Cork heros .

Yes their right to their opinion but this is the nonsense that ruined Cork gaa, lads from ninety teams giving views and there seen as gospel
There perfectly entitled to be questioned of they views don't make logic and you could have lads that were poor players but make better points
Just cause a lad was a poor player doesn't mean he's voice shouldn't be heard if he makes valid point

Regards Tompkins great player
He's views on dualism Cork football and the current rules of the game He wants introduced imo would have me not always agreeing with he's views

He's now coach of ucc freshers some one posted here
I don't think he'll be successful as he's woeful record Cork and mtichestoewn poor tactics in club game v kerry in munster imo tactically wise not a modern day coach

Gary Neville · 25-06-2015 05:06PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Your post summed this up what's wrong with killarney looming there's more questions than answers yet last week you were saying we need to be more postive and you think Cork have a real chance
I find it hard to Base confidence when we have so many questions to answer
Next Thursday team will tell us if we have learned anything from the last game
That's the key indicator
Looking at the team named it will tell a lot
I really hope they looked at the clare game and make changes and for start please don't let the brilliant absolutely brilliant Brian o Driscoll centre back where kerry will allow him bomb forward and get a point or two as blanket defence will mark him when the Gooch who be told not to track deep but stay in he's zone and with Driscoll out position he'll absolutely destroy Cork by scoring and creating and it will be play making role like pirlo destroying England in last world cup

Driscoll at ten would be an all star
I hope this outstanding talent is not played centre back against one greatest Gooch asked do job he's not suited to that man marker him

We've done well in Killarney in recent years, quite a few draws and 1 or 2 pt defeats. We should be very motivated.

We don't know about morale or whether the players have any faith in management - I thought that things were improving but the League Final, threw it all back into the melting pot.

Darragh thinks we'll be far tighter defensively and even though Cooper and JOD are superb footballers, neither can be 100% so if we can ever spring a surprise it's now.

Either Cuthbert is an average manager that's slowly inproving or he's absolutely useless and incapable of getting the best out of this squad - I don't know which but ham I to argue with Tomas O Se ?

Both sides will protect their FB lines - who'll counter attack better ? I don't see a lot of clean fielding so a lot will depend on breaking ball - have we got the men to compete in this area ?

I'd rate both defences and forwards as pretty equal - Kerry have an edge at MF but AOC and Maguire could give us parity - it's a big ask but ........

The major difference is on the side-line and we are way off the pace in this respect - how much will that impact on our chances ?

More questions than answers but there is some hope IMO.

thinkstoomuch1 · 25-06-2015 05:18PM

Gary Neville wrote: »

We've done well in Killarney in recent years, quite a few draws and 1 or 2 pt defeats. We should be very motivated.

We don't know about morale or whether the players have any faith in management - I thought that things were improving but the League Final, threw it all back into the melting pot.

Darragh thinks we'll be far tighter defensively and even though Cooper and JOD are superb footballers, neither can be 100% so if we can ever spring a surprise it's now.

Either Cuthbert is an average manager that's slowly inproving or he's absolutely useless and incapable of getting the best out of this squad - I don't know which but ham I to argue with Tomas O Se ?

Both sides will protect their FB lines - who'll counter attack better ? I don't see a lot of clean fielding so a lot will depend on breaking ball - have we got the men to compete in this area ?

I'd rate both defences and forwards as pretty equal - Kerry have an edge at MF but AOC and Maguire could give us parity - it's a big ask but ........

The major difference is on the side-line and we are way off the pace in this respect - how much will that impact on our chances ?

More questions than answers but there is some hope IMO.

With respect I don't agree at all at all

The major difference is the side line yes so yet accept and appreciate that and acknowledge it but you still think we have hope
I'm not being smart but at times I'm confused with your stance and maybe it's just me but you seem to be one day for management and the next day again and I don't see consistency

Look simple question
Are you confident or not in management
You say your not but you have hope we'll do well
Do you actually realise who kerry have in o Neill and fitzmaurice
And are your really that naive to belive good old Darragh o se yerra and with greatest respect to o se he's management skills were poor but what I have huge respect for him is he's playing days and at least he resigned from management this year

Seriously we haven't beaten kerry in twenty years in killarney and you say we done okay
Sorry now to bust the bubble but drawing with kerry when we should won is nothing to glorify
Typical Cork attuide never see it as it is
We had good teams and should won at least two games
Would you stop the lights with your moral victory one point defeat rubbish with respect
One point defeat is still a defeat
Simply it is what it is
Cooper won't have been fully fit when outstanding Brian Driscoll is up other end field attacking

Donughe won't need be fit when he's half back loughrey man marking him

Besides o se yerra Cork second worst defence in league and Dublin Galway and armagh challenge games and clare championship exposing our defence what is there to say Cork defence is improving?

You seem to forget maguire has hardly any football or training done recently and you want a rusty player with serous injury to partner player once was great Alan o Connor but no league fitness training behind him and won't last a fully game yet take on kerry who have four outstanding options at midfield

Gary Neville · 25-06-2015 06:51PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

With respect I don't agree at all at all

The major difference is the side line yes so yet accept and appreciate that and acknowledge it but you still think we have hope
I'm not being smart but at times I'm confused with your stance and maybe it's just me but you seem to be one day for management and the next day again and I don't see consistency

Look simple question
Are you confident or not in management
You say your not but you have hope we'll do well
Do you actually realise who kerry have in o Neill and fitzmaurice
And are your really that naive to belive good old Darragh o se yerra and with greatest respect to o se he's management skills were poor but what I have huge respect for him is he's playing days and at least he resigned from management this year

Seriously we haven't beaten kerry in twenty years in killarney and you say we done okay
Sorry now to bust the bubble but drawing with kerry when we should won is nothing to glorify
Typical Cork attuide never see it as it is
We had good teams and should won at least two games
Would you stop the lights with your moral victory one point defeat rubbish with respect
One point defeat is still a defeat
Simply it is what it is
Cooper won't have been fully fit when outstanding Brian Driscoll is up other end field attacking

Donughe won't need be fit when he's half back loughrey man marking him

Besides o se yerra Cork second worst defence in league and Dublin Galway and armagh challenge games and clare championship exposing our defence what is there to say Cork defence is improving?

You seem to forget maguire has hardly any football or training done recently and you want a rusty player with serous injury to partner player once was great Alan o Connor but no league fitness training behind him and won't last a fully game yet take on kerry who have four outstanding options at midfield

No inconsistencies - I'm do not have confidence in this management. I thought that Ciaran and Sexton would do well as they were great players for Cork but none of the management have impressed me.

However, I do not believe that we can condemn management for their 2nd season yet. We had a successful league but it does appear that the manner of the defeat to Dublin has done serious damage. Appointing Flanagan and getting AOC back were positives.

I'm hoping that last year was mainly down to inept management and poor tactics and that there isn't a huge amount between the teams. We should be hugely motivated but clearly there are major issues that came to light v Dublin.

I don't have confidence in management but I rate our players highly and I think that we'll do better than many expect - however, I'm not party to the mood or morale in the squad and it could be way off and so I can't rule out another hammering.

I simple don't know where we're at right now.

CORKDOUBLE · 25-06-2015 07:59PM

HURLING TEAM ....
Anthony Nash
Brian Murphy Stephen McDonnell William Kearney
Damien Cahalane Mark Ellis Cormac Murphy
Aidan Walsh Daniel Kearney
Conor Lehane Seamus Harnedy Bill Cooper
Alan Cadogan Pa Cronin Patrick Horgan....

subs....Patrick Collins, Killian Burke Aidan Ryan, Brian O Sullivan, Lorcan McLoughlin, Brian Lawton, Rob O Shea,
Darren McCarthy, Stephen Moylan, Paudi Sullivan and Jamie Coughlan...
With Shane O Neill and Luke Farrell out I think that will be the team and panel ...maybe Walsh and Cooper will switch ...Lorcan and Rob o Shea might be subs but both may not be 100%.

Orizio · 26-06-2015 09:01AM

They wouldn't start Cronin anywhere other than center-forward after the last day.

CORKDOUBLE · 26-06-2015 02:21PM

Alan Dennehy called up to the panel ??

Orizio · 26-06-2015 04:25PM

Cork Minor Hurling Panel v Limerick 2/7/15

John Looney, Aghada

Robert Bourke, Ballincollig

Michael O’Halloran, Blackrock

John Cashman, Blackrock,

Ciaran Cormack, Blackrock

Mark Coleman, Blarney

Conor McCarthy, Blarney

David Griffin, Carrigaline

Niall O’Leary, Castlelyons

Darragh Fitzgibbon, Charleville

David Lowney, Clonakilty

Barry Kenneally, Cuchulainns

Sean Powter, Douglas

Shane Kingston, Douglas

Robbie O’Flynn, Erins Own

Billy Dunne, Fr. O’Neills

Declan Dalton, Fr. O’Neills

Seadnaidh Smyth, Midleton

Tim O’Mahony, Shandrum

Eoghan Murphy, Sarsfields

Liam Healy, Sarsfields

Donal English, Sarsfields

Conor Cahalane, St. Finbarrs

Billy Hennessy, St. Finbarrs

Chris O’Leary, Valley Rovers

Extended Training Panel:

Cian Collins, Charleville

Liam Coughlan, Glen Rovers

Darragh O’Brien, Killeagh/St Ita’s

Kevin Murphy, Killeagh/St Itas

Jeremy Saich, Kilworth

Cormac Beausang, Midleton

Danny Gunning, Na Piarsaigh

Josh Beausang, St. Colemans

Stephen Sherlock, St. Finbarrs

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 11:10AM

Maguire is out for kerry and likely the season
No surprise really and I wish him the best in he's recovery
O rourke out for Sunday also

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 12:26PM

Orizio wrote: »

Cork Minor Hurling Panel v Limerick 2/7/15

John Looney, Aghada

Robert Bourke, Ballincollig

Michael O’Halloran, Blackrock

John Cashman, Blackrock,

Ciaran Cormack, Blackrock

Mark Coleman, Blarney

Conor McCarthy, Blarney

David Griffin, Carrigaline

Niall O’Leary, Castlelyons

Darragh Fitzgibbon, Charleville

David Lowney, Clonakilty

Barry Kenneally, Cuchulainns

Sean Powter, Douglas

Shane Kingston, Douglas

Robbie O’Flynn, Erins Own

Billy Dunne, Fr. O’Neills

Declan Dalton, Fr. O’Neills

Seadnaidh Smyth, Midleton

Tim O’Mahony, Shandrum

Eoghan Murphy, Sarsfields

Liam Healy, Sarsfields

Donal English, Sarsfields

Conor Cahalane, St. Finbarrs

Billy Hennessy, St. Finbarrs

Chris O’Leary, Valley Rovers

Extended Training Panel:

Cian Collins, Charleville

Liam Coughlan, Glen Rovers

Darragh O’Brien, Killeagh/St Ita’s

Kevin Murphy, Killeagh/St Itas

Jeremy Saich, Kilworth

Cormac Beausang, Midleton

Danny Gunning, Na Piarsaigh

Josh Beausang, St. Colemans

Stephen Sherlock, St. Finbarrs

Team probably be named Monday you would think
Is that official panel for this week? as I don't see it anywhere and I'd be surprised all four of gunning o brien Saich Murphy and even coughlan that at least one of them don't make the match day panel
Gunning especially

Huge game and tippeary to my surprise don't seem to be putting away teams so their not unbeatable but Wednesday is Cork munster final as guarantee cork two more games

Junior football play kerry a very strong kerry in cork Wednesday night

The senior management should go to it and look at laoire at midfield
He'll have a good test

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 12:41PM

http://www.the42.ie/cork-munster-final-2185037-Jun2015/

CORKDOUBLE · 27-06-2015 02:13PM

TTM the minor team is going to be announced on Tuesday evening at 7 pm....before the county championship draws...re Maguire Ronan McCarthy told the press last night that hes not ready to start the Munster final ...he did not say anything about the rest of the season...Clancy Clon and John O Rourke wont play he also said.

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 05:34PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

TTM the minor team is going to be announced on Tuesday evening at 7 pm....before the county championship draws...re Maguire Ronan McCarthy told the press last night that hes not ready to start the Munster final ...he did not say anything about the rest of the season...Clancy Clon and John O Rourke wont play he also said.

On the radio with report said huge doubt for rest season and when you consider its back injury it's unlikely he'll be fit for this year being realistic

Orizio · 27-06-2015 05:54PM

Barry Lawton (Castlemartyr) involved in the panel as well now. Looks like they are giving a load of lads a look-in.

lim4ev · 27-06-2015 08:02PM

I thought Kingston broke his leg is he ok for next thur?Heard today that Mackey from Adare picked up an injury in a club match but don't know how serious it is

Hurleratheart · 27-06-2015 11:48PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Team probably be named Monday you would think
Is that official panel for this week? as I don't see it anywhere and I'd be surprised all four of gunning o brien Saich Murphy and even coughlan that at least one of them don't make the match day panel
Gunning especially

Huge game and tippeary to my surprise don't seem to be putting away teams so their not unbeatable but Wednesday is Cork munster final as guarantee cork two more games

Junior football play kerry a very strong kerry in cork Wednesday night

The senior management should go to it and look at laoire at midfield
He'll have a good test

Game on THURSDAY

Kingston 100% not available but part of squad

Team be picked from 24 named due to currant form

Gunning o brine etc all unde are again next year ?

Hurleratheart · 27-06-2015 11:54PM

commonsense. wrote: »

Next week's minor game is important no doubt. But not bigger than Cork/Wexford. A loss in Wexford Park would heap more pressure on the lame duck that is CCB.
Would be great if minors could progress and I think they have a great chance. I reckon Limerick will be improved on their April performance but I'm anticipating a huge step up from Cork. As you say there are good hurlers in this group, too many for Limerick to contain on this occasion I feel.

Commonsense

Who do you think will start for minors

I think Cashman has to start with
Looney to

Healy flying as well I heard

I think cork have enough if they turnup

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 11:55PM

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Game on THURSDAY

Kingston 100% not available but part of squad

Team be picked from 24 named due to currant form

Gunning o brine etc all unde are again next year ?[/quote
Thanks for that

Kevin Murphy and gunning is
Saich is
O brien not too sure I don't think so
Coughlan played senior glen
He's I think over age

Hopefully cork have big crowd support our young lads

thinkstoomuch1 · 27-06-2015 11:57PM

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Commonsense

Who do you think will start for minors

I think Cashman has to start with
Looney to

Healy flying as well I heard

I think cork have enough if they turnup

I'd agree looney and cashman should and I think will start
Kingston is a huge loss but these lads are good hurlers

N20 · 28-06-2015 10:50AM

A few new lads have really stepped since first Limerick game

Powter Healy McCarthy certainly in frame
With cork forwards you could pick any of 10 in contention for places and be assured those who don't start will see pitch time at some stage

Dalton in goal and O Leary Fizgibbon midfield are prob nailed down at this stage
daltons puck outs could be landing in Thomond Park :-) in fairness Eoghan McNamara a very fine keeper for Limerick too

Definitely a reshuffle in backs as certainly Peter Casey had too much room the last day

Limerick will have some changes too and it seems their minors all did well in club championship, Presumably Paddy O Loughlin will still shore up the backs despite 3 goals for Kilmallock during week - Brian Ryan contributed to scoresheet for
South liberties too
unlucky for Mackey if he's out as he wasn't available last day against Cork either but a bonus for Limerick if he's available

Limerick will have 16th man with home advantage but Cork I think have more strength and depth - if they can keep it going to final whistle Cork will win

zetecescort · 28-06-2015 07:02PM

Cork v Kerry Munster JFC Final. Cork will play Kerry in the Munster Junior Football Championship Final next Wednesday 1st July in Páirc Uí Rinn at 7:30pm.

Competition: Munster JFC Final

Fixture: Cork v Kerry

When: Wednesday 1st July, 7:30pm

Where: Páirc Uí Rinn, Cork

Referee: Alan Kissane (Waterford)

Cork Junior Football team v Kerry Wednesday 1st July 2015

1. Anthony Seymour (Castlehaven)

2. A. J. O’Connor (Kiskeam)

3. Darren Murphy (Ballincollig)

4. John MacLoughlin (Kanturk)

5. Sean Kiely (Macroom) Capt.

6. Jason Collins (St. Mary’s)

7. Bart Daly (Newmarket)

8. Micheál Ó Laoire (Naomh Abán)

9. Cillian Brosnan (Brian Dillons)

10. John Corkery (Aghabullogue)

11. Brian Coughlan (Kinsale)

12. Mark Sugrue (Bandon)

13. Anthony O’Connor (Knocknagree)

14. Seamus Hickey (Rockchapel)

15. Alan Barry (Glanmire)

Subs:

16. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

17. Colm Hyde (Naomh Abán)

18. T. J. Brosnan (Newmarket)

19. Fionn Herlihy (Mitchelstown)

20. John Ryan (Newmarket)

21. Peter Daly (St. Mary’s)

22. Paul Condon (Mayfield)

23. Gearoid Finn (Kinsale)

24. Ruairi O’Hagan (Fermoy)

Selectors: Paul McCarthy (Kinsale) - Manager, Danny Culloty (Newmarket), Michael Lyons (Araglin), Alan Whelan (Brian Dillons), Tim O’Sullivan (Macroom).

Medical Officer: Dr. Paddy Burke. Physiotherapist: Gary Aherne.

lim4ev · 28-06-2015 07:09PM

N20 wrote: »

A few new lads have really stepped since first Limerick game

Powter Healy McCarthy certainly in frame
With cork forwards you could pick any of 10 in contention for places and be assured those who don't start will see pitch time at some stage

Dalton in goal and O Leary Fizgibbon midfield are prob nailed down at this stage
daltons puck outs could be landing in Thomond Park :-) in fairness Eoghan McNamara a very fine keeper for Limerick too

Definitely a reshuffle in backs as certainly Peter Casey had too much room the last day

Limerick will have some changes too and it seems their minors all did well in club championship, Presumably Paddy O Loughlin will still shore up the backs despite 3 goals for Kilmallock during week - Brian Ryan contributed to scoresheet for
South liberties too
unlucky for Mackey if he's out as he wasn't available last day against Cork either but a bonus for Limerick if he's available

Limerick will have 16th man with home advantage but Cork I think have more strength and depth - if they can keep it going to final whistle Cork will win

Yes n20 some of the limk minors have been going well also heard mackey will be ok I think the winning and losing of the game will be in the limerick half back/cork half forward line I think houlihan will be played here for limerick and though I don't know him my source tells me he will shore up that line plus with Kingston out that will be a plus for limerick,having said that i'd expect cork to win but limerick have quality up front and if they could afford to put o loughlin at 14 I feel limerick might score enough to win.I for one would love to see o loughlin at 14 rather than 6 but I don't have the knowledge of the squad to know whether that's achievable or not

commonsense. · 29-06-2015 12:48AM

Hurleratheart wrote:

Commonsense

Who do you think will start for minors

I think Cashman has to start with Looney to

Healy flying as well I heard

I think cork have enough if they turnup

I reckon 3 or 4 changes in personnel form q/final, mainly in the forwards, including one or two surprises. A few positional switches as well.
Training has gone extremely well by all accounts with this bunch being the best prepared minor team in several years.
Serious talent within the forwards despite Kingstons possible absence. Word is he could yet play some part. Even if he dosent, I think there is just too much fire power for Limerick to contain if Cork perform on the night.

Orizio · 29-06-2015 02:59AM

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Game on THURSDAY

Kingston 100% not available but part of squad

Team be picked from 24 named due to currant form

Gunning o brine etc all unde are again next year ?

Gunning, Saich, Bourke, McCarthy, Keanneally, Murphy, O'Leary, Healy and Josh Beasuang underage for next year afaik.

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