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  • #9332
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Blanket spread urea here on the Tuesday after June bank holiday. Would not have spread the previous week due to lack of moisture. Excellent response. Kept us in grass until now. If we get enough of the forecasted rain over the next few days I might go again but we have a good bit of N spread at this stage.

    Did exactly the same. Urea was in yard for a week and I didn't go till rain. Kept us out of jail. Spreading 1*18/6/12 today, hadn't the balls to orde urea in case no rain came


  • #9333
    kowtow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Milked out wrote: »
    http://theglobaldairy.com/noticias/farmers-earning-premiums-for-milk-from-grass-fed-night-milked-cows-43238/

    Think there is a night milker down here in Cork somewhere.. product is branded slumber milk, or sleepy milk or something?.


    Given that the lights in the parlour are f***d and the rooflights havent been cleaned for a generation I reckon all my milk would qualify in any case. Have noticed some of the cleverer cows eyeing up my headtorch and looking pensive.


  • #9334
    White Clover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭White Clover


    kowtow wrote: »
    Think there is a night milker down here in Cork somewhere.. product is branded slumber milk, or sleepy milk or something?.


    Given that the lights in the parlour are f***d and the rooflights havent been cleaned for a generation I reckon all my milk would qualify in any case. Have noticed some of the cleverer cows eyeing up my headtorch and looking pensive.

    lullaby milk produced by the burns' near Kanturk in North Cork


  • #9335
    C0N0R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    Re urea took the plunge here this year, auld lad wasn't easily swayed but got him there in the end, will certainly be using it in future, after first cut spread some leftover can on silage ground due to not a lot of rain on the radar and went with urea on grazing with covers. Most the grass wouldn't be ryegrass and has responded no problem to it, which is one of the things I was worried about.


  • #9336
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    C0N0R wrote: »
    Re urea took the plunge here this year, auld lad wasn't easily swayed but got him there in the end, will certainly be using it in future, after first cut spread some leftover can on silage ground due to not a lot of rain on the radar and went with urea on grazing with covers. Most the grass wouldn't be ryegrass and has responded no problem to it, which is one of the things I was worried about.

    It's the crack cocaine of N


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  • #9337
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    cows on new grass seed last night ,it was put in on the 12 of may ,a lot of green tits this morning ,but up in the tank a least. if more rain comes will reseed another 3 paddocks.


  • #9338
    Greengrass1
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    leg wax wrote: »
    cows on new grass seed last night ,it was put in on the 12 of may ,a lot of green tits this morning ,but up in the tank a least. if more rain comes will reseed another 3 paddocks.

    Was going to start grazein my reseed the other day but ground was so dey plants were comin away with my hand. Might graze it now that rain has cone


  • #9339
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Was going to start grazein my reseed the other day but ground was so dey plants were comin away with my hand. Might graze it now that rain has cone

    i noticed some pulled alright but not that many.


  • #9340
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    How do you work units of fertiliser into kgs?
    Also is there any fert on the market that has nitrogen and k in it no phos?


  • #9341
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How do you work units of fertiliser into kgs?
    Also is there any fert on the market that has nitrogen and k in it no phos?

    Kgs per hect × 0.8 = units per acre


    You can get 19 0 15 (+/-) sulphur.


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  • #9342
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mf240 wrote: »
    Kgs per hect × 0.8 = units per acre


    You can get 19 0 15 (+/-) sulphur.

    Must get hold if advisor on monday. See if I've much p allowance left


  • #9343
    ellewood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How do you work units of fertiliser into kgs?
    Also is there any fert on the market that has nitrogen and k in it no phos?


    Is 1 bag Can 27 units so it's 50×.27 = 13.5 kgs of N in a bag of Can ?


  • #9344
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    ellewood wrote: »
    Is 1 bag Can 27 units so it's 50×.27 = 13.5 kgs of N in a bag of Can ?

    I learned how to work it out in college but did let listen to well because lecture was a top class B.
    I've spread 18 6 12 and pasture sward and all sorts here this yr so far


  • #9345
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Must get hold if advisor on monday. See if I've much p allowance left

    Download the Tegasc app chief and get your n and p allowances from your dero plan and simply in put what fert u buy on it every time u purchase and it deducts from your allowance stating what % you've left to stay within limits


  • #9346
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Download the Tegasc app chief and get your n and p allowances from your dero plan and simply in put what fert u buy on it every time u purchase and it deducts from your allowance stating what % you've left to stay within limits

    Have the app but the bloody yoke won't work have uninstalled it and reinstalled it many a time and still no good


  • #9347
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mf240 wrote: »
    Kgs per hect × 0.8 = units per acre


    You can get 19 0 15 (+/-) sulphur.

    Dad was saying there this evening there was only ever 3 fertilisers he spread in 90s and early 00s
    pasture sward
    0 7 30
    and leifi boost or leifi start
    and then when the nitrates came in he got confused with it and didn't know how much he could spread so played it safe. Ended up we were only spreading half what we could

    I reckon that's happening to alot still


  • #9348
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Download the Tegasc app chief and get your n and p allowances from your dero plan and simply in put what fert u buy on it every time u purchase and it deducts from your allowance stating what % you've left to stay within limits

    Great job


  • #9349
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Dad was saying there this evening there was only ever 3 fertilisers he spread in 90s and early 00s
    pasture sward
    0 7 30
    and leifi boost or leifi start
    and then when the nitrates came in he got confused with it and didn't know how much he could spread so played it safe. Ended up we were only spreading half what we could

    I reckon that's happening to alot still

    Lot using as convenient excuse not to spread p&k


  • #9350
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Download the Tegasc app chief and get your n and p allowances from your dero plan and simply in put what fert u buy on it every time u purchase and it deducts from your allowance stating what % you've left to stay within limits

    Will it know if your telling lies?? Will it be wondering why you buy 20 tonne of calf meal in august??


  • #9351
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Lot using as convenient excuse not to spread p&k

    Fields low in p and k (very low) will grow nothing with straight nitrogen. Growth is limited by the nutrient that in lowest supply .


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  • #9352
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    mf240 wrote: »
    Will it know if your telling lies?? Will it be wondering why you buy 20 tonne of calf meal in august??

    Sure I'll have fine fat calves and fields of lush green grass !!!!


  • #9353
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    mf240 wrote: »
    Fields low in p and k (very low) will grow nothing with straight nitrogen. Growth is limited by the nutrient that in lowest supply .

    Lime is starting point ,if ph ain't right not much point loading on expensive p and k


  • #9354
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Lime is starting point ,if ph ain't right not much point loading on expensive p and k

    One thing we know now is not to skimp on them again. The phosphorus was 90% of our fertility issue here.
    Whole farm should be at 2 7 next yr so there will be no chance on getting away with spreading a little less N alike we did at times so far this yr if I want make enough silage and not have to buy any in or take on extra land


  • #9355
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Took the cidrs out of the cows last night. Will I do fixed time ai or will I wait for them to come into heat themselves.
    much of a success rate doing fixed time ai?
    would I be waiting long if I let them come around themselves?


  • #9356
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Took the cidrs out of the cows last night. Will I do fixed time ai or will I wait for them to come into heat themselves.
    much of a success rate doing fixed time ai?
    would I be waiting long if I let them come around themselves?

    At this stage do fixed time I'd say. I think with cows it's 50% success rate at fixed time. Is it at 48 and 72 hrs for cidr? They should come in heat in that period anyway so if one comes bulling work away as normal. No harm to ask ai man what he has done elsewhere


  • #9357
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Took the cidrs out of the cows last night. Will I do fixed time ai or will I wait for them to come into heat themselves.
    much of a success rate doing fixed time ai?
    would I be waiting long if I let them come around themselves?

    Both. If they haven't shown fixed time AI.


  • #9358
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    just do it wrote: »
    Both. If they haven't shown fixed time AI.

    They should come bulling before 72 hrs so?


  • #9359
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    They should come bulling before 72 hrs so?

    Any time from tomorrow morning I'd say


  • #9360
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Where is Whelan2 on holiday? I hope it's not Tunisia :(
    Farmers wife a nurse from Meath among the dead,fears for others


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  • #9361
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,752 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    Where is Whelan2 on holiday? I hope it's not Tunisia :(
    Farmers wife a nurse from Meath among the dead,fears for others
    i'm home, just read about that there now, very sad


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