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  • #9152
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    keep going wrote: »
    Meowww, doing 2 bags of 18 6 12 this week sulpher next round and probaly 18 6 12 again after that depending on the response.growing the 55s I need at the minute but reckon I have suffered in spring and autumn for want of p and k plus will ramp up another few next year so I want to maximise growth in the future.soil tests this year showed huge drop in p and k less so.a buddy of mine always says that nitrates had a huge role in the fodder crisis and im beginning to think hes right.

    sorry but had to say it, its hard to get in when you ask or try to contribute a little and get no response ,i know the more you put in the more you will get back but when you get nothing:rolleyes:


  • #9153
    trixi2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Going to stick with a bag of amonia nitrate to the acre for this round following the cows once a week . Growth still really strong here at 96 this week and got a bit of rain last night and today sould keep gr rate up so more bales by the looks of things . One great advantage of farming across the water is that there are no nitrogen limits or calander farming


  • #9154
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    On the back of all milk price cuts and less than optimistic short term future for milk how are lads plans changing for rest of year??.have committed to building extra cubicles and calving shed here ,need them before next winter to cater for extra cows nos so going to plough on with that .
    1 going to grow as much grass as possible for rest of year and bale as much surplus as possible to substitute some meal at back end and next spring.
    2 cutting meal back from cows as of today .2 kg to to 26 kg milk ,0.35 per kg milk over that and Max feed 6 kg.my divas need their grub!!
    3 pulling bull and stopping Ai 15 July ,scanning mud to late August and cull any empties
    4 split calves into 2 groups,2 kg to small bunch and 0 to big group till late September .will all be on mostly after grass .
    5 urea product of choice from here in where possible .have about 60 k gallons slurry left .will pump it all into tower ,dilute with water and spread with trailing shoes tank on milk block from mid August to give a kick in back end.
    6 hide the cheque book,knuckle down and produce as much high solids milk as cheaply as possible for rest of year

    Good post MJ. You've just given the template as to how all dairy business' should be run. If say guys that don't have massive repayments for capx are glad now.

    Not aimed at you btw, but its high costs will sink ships not low price.

    To answer your question we'll continue as before not much to cut here

    For us
    1 Use plenty of N to grow as much grazed and surplus grass as possible

    2 We're already below budget on meals and hope to stay that way

    3 P&K aswell as lime will continue as we plan to milk more cows here

    4 Achieve as hi a solids as we can

    5 Avoid all penalties

    6 Keep our ear to the ground for new opportunity as they'll become appearant after this spell

    The one thing for sure is that price will rise and lads will spend like sailors again but we'll stick to our mantra of only ever spending where we see a return.


  • #9155
    cosatron
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    can anyone recommend a good teat dip sprayer, use the mullinahone's one here, but the trigger keeps giving trouble. thanks


  • #9156
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    cosatron wrote: »
    can anyone recommend a good teat dip sprayer, use the mullinahone's one here, but the trigger keeps giving trouble. thanks

    Like the bottle one?
    My advice get the pneumatic one driven off the parlour vaccum. Bought it the week I arrived home from college. Single best investment we ever made imo.
    Was always battling scc. We're being kicked out of glanbia at one stage it was so bad.
    Scc went from 250 to 100 in a fortnight just from a simple thing as more teat spray going on cows.


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  • #9157
    cosatron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Like the bottle one?
    My advice get the pneumatic one driven off the parlour vaccum. Bought it the week I arrived home from college. Single best investment we ever made imo.
    Was always battling scc. We're being kicked out of glanbia at one stage it was so bad.
    Scc went from 250 to 100 in a fortnight just from a simple thing as more teat spray going on cows.
    yea like the bottle one. being using it for years and the new bottles out aren't as good as the old ones, so I was wondering is there another brand available. Never had a problem with scc so we are happy with the bottle sprayer.


  • #9158
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    I always found the dip bottles a better job

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=teat+dip+bottle&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&imgil=hhvro1de7n3VmM%253A%253Bw042HisK-lclDM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fmilkingmachineliners.ie%25252Fteat-dip-cup-e9-00-inc-vat%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=hhvro1de7n3VmM%253A%252Cw042HisK-lclDM%252C_&usg=__6ivpNLwWcKU_thBLTGYtjypHfDg%3D&ved=0CC0Qyjc&ei=BaWCVaTWIeiG7Qbl1oGYCQ#imgrc=hhvro1de7n3VmM%253A%3Bw042HisK-lclDM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmilkingmachineliners.ie%252Fwp-content%252Fthemes%252Fshopperpress%252Fthumbs%252Fteat-dip-cup-milkingmachineliners.ie_.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmilkingmachineliners.ie%252Fteat-dip-cup-e9-00-inc-vat%252F%3B250%3B284&usg=__6ivpNLwWcKU_thBLTGYtjypHfDg%3D


  • #9159
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,778 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Do they not pass on infection from cow to cow?


  • #9160
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,127 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    cosatron wrote: »
    yea like the bottle one. being using it for years and the new bottles out aren't as good as the old ones, so I was wondering is there another brand available. Never had a problem with scc so we are happy with the bottle sprayer.

    Using a Delaval one here giving no trouble at all used them mullinahone ones in the past and would be lucky to get a month out of them before the trigger would mess up like your saying


  • #9161
    blackdog1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Using a Delaval one here giving no trouble at all used them mullinahone ones in the past and would be lucky to get a month out of them before the trigger would mess up like your saying

    http://www.absglobal.com/valiant

    Use this stuff. I find it great in the summer and winter. I only use it post dip and because of the colour you can see any teat you missed.


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  • #9162
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Anyone know any other companies besides BUtler Refrigeration doing South Tipp area?


  • #9163
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,127 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    http://www.absglobal.com/valiant

    Use this stuff. I find it great in the summer and winter. I only use it post dip and because of the colour you can see any teat you missed.

    Good quality alright the price of it is crazy though but if you have a scc problem it would pay for itself


  • #9164
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Does anyone know how to get the macros working on laptop for the cost control planner or who in teagasc should I contact?
    I ha e a budget done that we did in the fall on it but only way I can navigate through it is trough menu on bottom of screen I can't use the actual menu iykwim. Trying to input what we actually spent /sold and it's pissing me off


  • #9165
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/69473467/otago-farmers-win-2015-dairy-business-of-the-year


  • #9166
    Pacoa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Pacoa


    can anyone recommend a good teat dip sprayer, use the mullinahone's one here, but the trigger keeps giving trouble. thanks

    Do you hang them up by the trigger? I used to do that and they only lasted a month as well but once i started to put them down on a ledge I started to get 12 months plus out of 'em.


  • #9167
    leg wax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    anyone going to kilkenny today to the fr open day.


  • #9168
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    leg wax wrote: »
    anyone going to kilkenny today to the fr open day.

    Would love to be going but have other commitments unfortunately.

    Always find his read in the journal very interesting, that coupled with his use of British Freisan would make it a good day out I would say


  • #9169
    darragh_haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    leg wax wrote: »
    anyone going to kilkenny today to the fr open day.

    It's the one place I should be going coz if I'm getting dairying I could learn a lot about cow type. But it's 3+ hours away and my current is busy arm.
    If anyone going could they give a post or two about it later


  • #9170
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Scanned 5 cows here this morning.
    I know it's late but took a while to get dad around the idea.

    Any way
    3 are cycling -don't know how I missed them. Good young cow's
    one isn't - only a second calver
    One has a cyst. Old cow. Touching 11 now so not overly worried about her.
    All had 2 shots of estrumate ten days after each other.
    what should I do with them.now. rang my vet but he's on hols and was given number of another one but he wasn't really telling me much of what to do with them. More estrumate one minute then coils the next.
    Going to ring another vet mam and dad had out when u was away in feb they thought was very good


  • #9171
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭tanko


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Scanned 5 cows here this morning.
    I know it's late but took a while to get dad around the idea.

    Any way
    3 are cycling -don't know how I missed them. Good young cow's
    one isn't - only a second calver
    One has a cyst. Old cow. Touching 11 now so not overly worried about her.
    All had 2 shots of estrumate ten days after each other.
    what should I do with them.now. rang my vet but he's on hols and was given number of another one but he wasn't really telling me much of what to do with them. More estrumate one minute then coils the next.
    Going to ring another vet mam and dad had out when u was away in feb they thought was very good

    I always assumed that giving a shot of estrumate was only effective on heifers and didn't work on cows. Has it helped to get cows bulling for you before?


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  • #9172
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,778 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    tanko wrote: »
    I always assumed that giving a shot of estrumate was only effective on heifers and didn't work on cows. Has it helped to get cows bulling for you before?
    lad who scans my cows hates estrumate


  • #9173
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,432 ✭✭✭tanko


    whelan2 wrote: »
    lad who scans my cows hates estrumate

    Why?


  • #9174
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,778 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Natural heat is better he says. He is a very good scanning man.


  • #9175
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    tanko wrote: »
    I always assumed that giving a shot of estrumate was only effective on heifers and didn't work on cows. Has it helped to get cows bulling for you before?

    Yep had 7 originally. 5 now


  • #9176
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    lad who scans my cows hates estrumate

    I had left them long enough waiting fir a natural heat. Wasnt prepared to loose 7 cows.


  • #9177
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,778 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I had left them long enough waiting fir a natural heat. Wasnt prepared to loose 7 cows.

    Sometimes the handling is enough to bring them on


  • #9178
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Sometimes the handling is enough to bring them on

    Vet on his way now for a cow with bloat we haven't seen an improvement in since she got stuff thus morning. I'll see what he recommends


  • #9179
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,778 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Vet on his way now for a cow with bloat we haven't seen an improvement in since she got stuff thus morning. I'll see what he recommends

    Do ye get much bloat?


  • #9180
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Scanned 5 cows here this morning.
    I know it's late but took a while to get dad around the idea.

    Any way
    3 are cycling -don't know how I missed them. Good young cow's
    one isn't - only a second calver
    One has a cyst. Old cow. Touching 11 now so not overly worried about her.
    All had 2 shots of estrumate ten days after each other.
    what should I do with them.now. rang my vet but he's on hols and was given number of another one but he wasn't really telling me much of what to do with them. More estrumate one minute then coils the next.
    Going to ring another vet mam and dad had out when u was away in feb they thought was very good

    The 3 cycling cows- estrumate should do fine, perhaps are just having silent heats? The one not cycling needs a coil and tge one with the cyst should get the other stuff not estrumate but the name escapes me now. I get vet to scan cows like that which haven't been bullet as he'll have all the stuff to treat them thete and then

    Receptal is the name of stuff for the cyst, I think some give it the day a coil goes in as well


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  • #9181
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Do ye get much bloat?

    First one all yr. Worst one I've ever seen here


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