Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Mountainlad wrote: »

There's a lesson in this, opinions are fine and we're all wrong at least some of the time. When you state something as opinion, criticism should be limited. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and there are many ways to justify it.

Adamant statements of fact, however, and particularly derision of opposing teams (which there was towards Waterford) is not likely to go down well and so if you engage in that you should expect a backlash. I'll say no more.

Derision of opposing opposition you say.It sounds like to me that you're character assassinating a poster just because he didn't grovel and fawn to you're county enough.I'll say no more.;)

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/christy-oconnor-analyses-corks-defeat/

Hard to argue with this. Couple of things I would add is how bad we are when the ball is on the ground in a crowd. This must of happened over a dozen times and I would be surprised if we won 2 of them. Also of the 33 long puck outs we won 12 I would guess we caught 2 of these. Our inability to field long ball and win ugly ball on the floor is turning over so much possession it is putting us under so much pressure to score when we have the solitor. We had to work so hard for all our scores compaired to Waterford who seemed to pop of scores with ease.

Pos087 wrote: »

Hard to argue with this. Couple of things I would add is how bad we are when the ball is on the ground in a crowd. This must of happened over a dozen times and I would be surprised if we won 2 of them. Also of the 33 long puck outs we won 12 I would guess we caught 2 of these. Our inability to field long ball and win ugly ball on the floor is turning over so much possession it is putting us under so much pressure to score when we have the solitor. We had to work so hard for all our scores compaired to Waterford who seemed to pop of scores with ease.

I'd agree and harnedy loss was greatly emphasised in that count as he will win ball no other forward will in the grounds or the air and he's most likely to score or create a goal
It's he's ability and pace to break the tackle and strenght is something imo only sweetman had before he went to ruby and he ran direct also


Also the distribution of cork ball from half back would been better with lorcan there and he would have sweeped up a lot of ball

deisedude wrote: »

After the league final TTM went onto the Waterford thread and posted post after post of condescending sh1te. If you cant take it, dont give it

It certainly looks like some of ye in Waterford are classless winners and im referring to the gang of Waterford supporters that are behaving in an inappropriate manner on this thread.There was nothing said by Thinkstoomuch on yere thread on the run up to the match.Well done on yere win but we'll rise again for you see we are Cork.;)

Alf Tupper wrote: »

I have to agree with this.

I had never been on the Cork discussion board until TTM came on the Waterford board looking for victims.

His condescending attitude towards us was a lighting rod for Waterford people to go after him.

Now to be fair, no one went looking for him, he came a calling with a s*it load of arrogance and condescension.

I have massive time for Cork hurling and Cork supporters as sports people but this lad's only intention was to grig us and undermine us while damming us with back handed comments and faint praise.

Every contributor bar TTM on here as on the Waterford board desisted from any small mindedness and all had fair comment.

In all fairness, you can't blame lads for having a pop off him now seeing as he has gone into hiding.

You're talking nonsence.Thinkstoomuch has answered every petty post and every snide remark that you lachios have made about him on this thread.

O Riain wrote: »

I suppose we are all just coincidentally out of our minds? If you go back to after the league final on the Waterford thread you can see the garbage he was writing. He has constantly replied saying "this is what I said last week" but we are not talking about last week, we are talking about 5 weeks ago when he was writing heap loads of condescending crap on the thread. Go back and look for yourself before you say we are talking nonsense.

Again and I can't keep saying it what I said five week ago was based on lorcan and harnedy being fit for this week
How on earth did I with respect be fair now know those two were out Sunday
So yes what I said five weeks ago I based on what was before my eyes then
As soon as harnedy became a doubt and lorcan I naturally changes view
Nothing more nothing less but I respect your right to your opinion but I don't respect you saying my view five weeks ago and this week couldn't change when to be fair of course it could with injury worries

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

just seeing no way cork could won without harnedy and lorcan
Cork have no bench of depth and you take two central lads out it will affect cork

You see this is the type of spurious argument that would annoy any decent opposing supporter...

We would have won if only... As I said yesterday, If only my Aunt had balls.....

We of all people have suffered at the hand of Cork for generations and never came out with this line of bulls*it!

We just weren't up to it and had to take it and suck it up.

We had to take banter in 82 about, "hey boy is that the time or the scoreboard like?" or one of your present selectors waliking out after we played a club tournament game in Killeagh, as he opened the boot of his car, telling us to to have a good look because the cup in it was "Liam" and we wouldn't be used to seeing it.

The problem for you is that you're in denial and can't conceive a situation where Waterford might have a better team than Cork.

It would be like someone from Waterford going on after the semi in 2004 about being without John Mullane, it's meaningless rubbish.

We had our injuries yesterday, by far outweighing Cork's btw.

It's no one's fault but Cork's that your players on the field were below the standard.

FFS, Donal Og even said last night that there are more hurling clubs in Imokilly than there are in the whole of Offaly - and for Waterford for that matter.

Who's fault is it that you don't have enough hurlers at the required standard.

TBH, It's mealy mouthed and bad sportsmanship to be going on as you do and it does a disservice to the 99% o Cork supporters who tell it as it is.

AS I said previously on here, my hurling heroes were the like's JBM, John Fitz, Tom Cashman etc.

Cork have always been my favourite second team and I wish you well for the rest of the season. As I said last night, I still think ye will be there or thereabouts, given a favourable draw

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I never mentioned any of the stuff you mentioned to be fair regards eight two
Were going round in circles Alf well agree to disagree and I respect your right to your opinion and hopefully you will respect my right to an opinion
Best of luck to waterford in the all Ireland series

My view on cork with out two key players is not to wind up waterford geuinely I just feel cork as other posters said hsve no depth
If Ireland play world cup game without o connell and sexton I wouldn't give them a hope winning simply as imo those players are irreplaceable
That the concept nothing more or less

Ok TTM, just out of curiosity, do you still think JBM and Cork threw the league final against us?

That has been the touchstone of your argument for the last five weeks.

Surely now, even you, must concede that you were totally wide of the mark.

Look, even for once, for the sake of every one's sanity on here, please admit that you just might have been wrong :P

It would gain you endless loads of kudos on here I reckon if you could just admit it once;)

Mea Culpa and all that...

Cracking game of Hurling,

waterford full value for the win!

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Ok TTM, just out of curiosity, do you still think JBM and Cork threw the league final against us?

That has been the touchstone of your argument for the last five weeks.

Surely now, even you, must concede that you were totally wide of the mark.

Look, even for once, for the sake of every one's sanity on here, please admit that you just might have been wrong :P

It would gain you endless loads of kudos on here I reckon if you could just admit it once;)

Mea Culpa and all that...

I have an opinion now I'm not going to be forced to change it by you or anyone
Have the common courtesy to respect my right and I'm not going to be dictates by you with respect
Were going around in circles
I'll agree to disagree

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Qualifier draw next Monday for the hurling
Football up sunday and the following Wednesday the under twenty one hurling
A few of the intermediate on the panel Buckley and herihly from yesterday are involved
Cork juniors out Sunday also

What u think about u21

Pos087 wrote: »

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd agree and harnedy loss was greatly emphasised in that count as he will win ball no other forward will in the grounds or the air and he's most likely to score or create a goal


Really goes to show the lack of dept we have. Ellis missing a few weeks ago we feel apart. 2 or 3 top players can win you a county (Midleton). 5 or 7 players can win you Munster (Cork). You need a squad to win AI (Killkenny). With this in mind we are a long way from winning a AI. The underage is getting a lot of bad press lately but the work going into Blitzs for under 8s and 10s the past few years will show fruit eventually. My own local clubs underage are training all year round now for a few years this is keeping young people in the club and not losing them to other sports and I know this is happening all over the county. Keep the faith. it might take awhile but we will be back.

hard for success in these blitzs and tournaments to bear fruit when minor and u-21 jobs are given to the least qualified candidates, and that's in both codes. aswell as not developing players we are not bringing through decent managers/ coaches either.

Pos087 wrote: »

What u think about u21

Be tough game in cork for cork as Waterford have few senior from yesterday but that sometimes goes against teams prepared wise in they don't have the time with the under twenty one set up etc but the confidence from winning can be brought over
Cork are well coached but from the minor two years ago callaghan and cahalane aren't involved but cork should be strong enough
Waterford on paper have the bigger names and from last year surprise defeat will be out for revenge
Cork are under huge pressure to deliver at under age and Waterford are the same at this grade and since the minor win the harty cup teams have not been successful and the intermediate and minors are both out so it's a huge game for them and cork are the same and it's a huge pressure game in cork need under twenty one success
I don't see anyone beating tipp but a munster final would be huge progress and if cork get there have three home games
Tough game to call but based on minor win waterford be favourite more so cahalane and callaghan the two stars minor team are not involved
Waterford are well coached I hear