S05E08 - Hardhome - Have NOT read The Books

corcaigh07 · 04-06-2015 09:52AM

Anybody think Dani will be mad at Tyrion soon because ultimately, not killing and only banishing Ser Friendzone who is carrying a fecking plague is a bad decision because he will just keep coming back!

Have a feeling it might not go as smoothly as we think it will.

ghogie91 · 04-06-2015 10:42AM

corcaigh07 wrote: »

Anybody think Dani will be mad at Tyrion soon because ultimately, not killing and only banishing Ser Friendzone who is carrying a fecking plague is a bad decision because he will just keep coming back!

Have a feeling it might not go as smoothly as we think it will.

Hes definitely going to come back I'd say. The fact he has greyscale is unknown to everyone else. Fast forward 2 seasons and Deanerys whole army are stone men :pac: :eek:

BeardedBadger · 04-06-2015 11:03AM

I must say I loved the white walkers on the horses scene, felt a lot like the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse style stuff. Cracking episode

maximoose · 04-06-2015 11:06AM

Watched the ep again lastnight. The last 20 mins are just a joy, but apart from that I don't think it was all that great.

Arya's story at the moment is incredibly dull IMO.

DeadHand · 04-06-2015 11:34AM

Axwell wrote: »

In what way - more or less*?

*Fewer.

DeadHand · 04-06-2015 11:37AM

secondrowgal wrote: »

I was wondering about that! I was sure there was more than one giant left after the siege at the wall

There are just as many as the CGI budget allows!

chasmcb · 04-06-2015 12:07PM

maximoose wrote: »

Arya's story at the moment is incredibly dull IMO.

It's not a patch on her time with the Hound that's for sure! I do think they are over-doing the old dark dungeon vibes this season as well. We now have Cersei, Jaime & Bronn as actual prisoners (Margery too even if we haven't seen her in her cell). Sansa is pretty much a prisoner in Winterfell and that gaff Arya is shacked up in is every bit as dreary as a prison. You could almost add Sam and Gilly into that mix too the way things are for them just now with Jon away.

Mormegil · 04-06-2015 12:12PM

secondrowgal wrote: »

I was wondering about that! I was sure there was more than one giant left after the siege at the wall. But I suppose small coastal villages are not really conducive to gigantic living

When they did a wide shot of all the Wildlings outside the gate at Hardhome you could see a few Giants among them.

As all those who were caught outside the gate were killed and reanimated we will no doubt see some undead Giants in the future.

duploelabs · 04-06-2015 12:14PM

maximoose wrote: »

Watched the ep again lastnight. The last 20 mins are just a joy, but apart from that I don't think it was all that great.

Arya's story at the moment is incredibly dull IMO.

Are you kidding me??? The Dany/Tyrion scene alone was one of the best piece of dialogue in the series

Thargor · 04-06-2015 12:53PM

chasmcb wrote: »

It's not a patch on her time with the Hound that's for sure! I do think they are over-doing the old dark dungeon vibes this season as well. We now have Cersei, Jaime & Bronn as actual prisoners (Margery too even if we haven't seen her in her cell). Sansa is pretty much a prisoner in Winterfell and that gaff Arya is shacked up in is every bit as dreary as a prison. You could almost add Sam and Gilly into that mix too the way things are for them just now with Jon away.

We've seen her in her cell:

PressRun · 04-06-2015 01:51PM

That wee lad Olly is going to do an Omar Little on Jon, I reckon. There have been a couple of scenes dedicated to his dissatisfaction with Jon brokering a deal with the wildlings. They're being put there for a reason, and that lad already killed Ygritte.

JJayoo · 04-06-2015 03:01PM

PressRun wrote: »

That wee lad Olly is going to do an Omar Little on Jon, I reckon. There have been a couple of scenes dedicated to his dissatisfaction with Jon brokering a deal with the wildlings. They're being put there for a reason, and that lad already killed Ygritte.

I think either Jon or possibly Sam will kill Olly.

SureYWouldntYa · 04-06-2015 03:03PM

JJayoo wrote: »

I think either Jon or possibly Sam will kill Olly.

I'd say Gilly, maybe Olly will try to kill Sam and Gilly does the deed

04-06-2015 03:11PM

Is there any way the "children" could be fallen children of the forest from thousands of years earlier? Just like in s01e01, they're the only wights that pause. All of the other wights behave like regular zombies.

PressRun · 04-06-2015 03:11PM

JJayoo wrote: »

I think either Jon or possibly Sam will kill Olly.

Why would Jon kill him? The only way I could see Sam killing him is if he tries to kill Jon.

Olly is pretty put out by the whole wildlings situation, we've had a couple of scenes where he has expressed as much. I think those scenes are intended to build up a motive for Olly to try and make an attempt on Jon's life.

Either way, I think Jon is going to face a mutiny of some kind when he gets back to the wall. Things are a little too neatly heroic with this character right now.

mzungu · 04-06-2015 03:15PM

Wonder how the giant got into that hut initially!

DeadHand · 04-06-2015 03:17PM

mzungu wrote: »

Wonder how the giant got into that hut initially!

They built the hut around him.

JJayoo · 04-06-2015 03:22PM

PressRun wrote: »

Why would Jon kill him? The only way I could see Sam killing him is if he tries to kill Jon.

Olly is pretty put out by the whole wildlings situation, we've had a couple of scenes where he has expressed as much. I think those scenes are intended to build up a motive for Olly to try and make an attempt on Jon's life.

Either way, I think Jon is going to face a mutiny of some kind when he gets back to the wall. Things are a little too neatly heroic with this character right now.

Baby Sam is a wildling so I think prehaps Olly might try to kill him or his mother. I think Jon killing Olly could resemble the same way that Olly killed Ygritte.

Olly will be about to kill Tormund and Jon must sacrifice Olly in order to keep the trust of the wildlings as they all respect Tormund.

mzungu · 04-06-2015 03:27PM

DeadHand wrote: »

They built the hut around him.

Thought of that initially. Some boring life he must have had, I reckon when the White Walkers attacked he was secretly delighted. Got him out of the house anyway.

PressRun · 04-06-2015 03:30PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Baby Sam is a wildling so I think prehaps Olly might try to kill him or his mother. I think Jon killing Olly could resemble the same way that Olly killed Ygritte.

Olly will be about to kill Tormund and Jon must sacrifice Olly in order to keep the trust of the wildlings as they all respect Tormund.

Maybe, but I think those scenes were intended to show how Olly actually feels a little betrayed by Jon though. He looks up to Jon as a sort of role model and seeing him doing a deal with the people who killed his parents makes him think less of Jon, imo. He was still even holding out hope that Jon was trying to lure the wildlings into a trap.

When he arrives back to the wall with a band of rescued wildlings, I think that'll spell bad news for Jon. And I don't think Olly is the only one there who won't stand for it. I think that Allistair bloke is after Jon's job too.

nibtrix · 04-06-2015 03:32PM

chasmcb wrote: »

I do think they are over-doing the old dark dungeon vibes this season

Tell me about it, I spend half the episode squinting at the tv or trying to adjust the brightness so I can make out who is in the shot!

JJayoo · 04-06-2015 03:32PM

Can a normal blade kill a White Walker, if for example you chopped their head off?

Vojera · 04-06-2015 03:36PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Can a normal blade kill a White Walker, if for example you chopped their head off?

I doubt it - it seems that normal weapons shatter upon contact with either the Walkers or their crystal sword things.

04-06-2015 03:44PM

Vojera wrote: »

I doubt it - it seems that normal weapons shatter upon contact with either the Walkers or their crystal sword things.

Yea, I'm guessing the only Westerosi-made thing that could even touch them might be wildfire.

Effects · 04-06-2015 03:48PM

kingshankly wrote: »

One of the finest hours of TV since Liverpool came back against ac Milan in 2005

You really call a game of sport one of the top two hours of TV in ten years? I take it you watch Game of Thrones and footballs exclusively?

EoghanIRL · 04-06-2015 03:49PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Baby Sam is a wildling so I think prehaps Olly might try to kill him or his mother. I think Jon killing Olly could resemble the same way that Olly killed Ygritte.

Olly will be about to kill Tormund and Jon must sacrifice Olly in order to keep the trust of the wildlings as they all respect Tormund.

I could see the last paragraph happening.

mzungu · 04-06-2015 03:57PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Baby Sam is a wildling so I think prehaps Olly might try to kill him or his mother. I think Jon killing Olly could resemble the same way that Olly killed Ygritte.

Olly will be about to kill Tormund and Jon must sacrifice Olly in order to keep the trust of the wildlings as they all respect Tormund.

Aye, it seems to be hinting that some major incident is going to occur there. They seem to be playing up the Sam / Gilly relationship quite a bit too. Which makes me wonder how safe they are. Could all get very messy in the last two episodes.

ashdale5 · 04-06-2015 03:59PM

Effects wrote: »

You really call a game of sport one of the top two hours of TV in ten years? I take it you watch Game of Thrones and footballs exclusively?

That about sums up my viewing as well

chasmcb · 04-06-2015 04:14PM

mzungu wrote: »

Thought of that initially. Some boring life he must have had, I reckon when the White Walkers attacked he was secretly delighted. Got him out of the house anyway.

"Got him out of the house anyway", brilliant, haha. An Irish giant.

ashdale5 · 04-06-2015 04:18PM

chasmcb wrote: »

"Got him out of the house anyway", brilliant, haha. An Irish giant.

He'd make a great full forward.

S05E08 - Hardhome - Have NOT read The Books

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