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Chinese Android Phones 2 - Read First Post!

  • 29-05-2015 6:15pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    Reusing Thargors OP because it's good

    1. Picking a quality brand
    Gizchina.com regularly review and announce new devices, and should be your first port of call for looking at devices
    DO NOT BUY CLONES
    They generally suck, and have a good chance of being destroyed by customs
    Here are some quality brands to get you started:

    Android phones

    Xiaomi
    Gionee
    INUI
    Oppo
    Vivo
    Meizu
    HUAWEI
    Lenovo
    CUBOT
    Xiaocai
    Zopo
    THL
    UMI
    JIAYU
    ZTE
    iOcean
    Cube
    Elephone
    Ulephone
    UNI

    Tablets
    Lenovo
    PIPO
    JXD
    Onda
    CUBE
    Ainol
    Ployer
    Freelander
    CHUWI
    AMPE
    Ramos

    All that being said, new brands are constantly popping up and not all of them will be bad so don’t write them off until you’ve checked out some reviews from their products!

    2. What to Look For:

    Next up you’ll be wanting to pick a device, whether that be phone or tablet there are a few thing’s to look out for to ensure you end up with a product that’s really going to meet your expectations.

    First up, finding a phone! Our favourite website for finding Chinese androids is www.kimovil.com , its a great website where you can choose a phone from a wide selection based on the specifications that are important to you, you'll get a link to some sellers and a score of out of 10 for numerous aspects to the phone.

    There aren't enough regulars here to spoonfeed recommendations to everyone who comes asking "I have €100 what do I buy?", so if you find a phone you like on kimovil and ask us about it, you're much more likely to get an answer, and faster too.

    Build quality

    This is difficult to decipher without having the device in hand but choosing the right brand is a good start, from there on you’ll want to check reviews and in particular, check out hands-on videos on Youtube which should give a better idea of the overall quality of the device. Mostly chinese devices these days are supringly well built, especially those from the bigger brands so this shouldn’t be too big an issue.

    Fake features:

    Unfortunately some products, particularly clone products will be advertised with features that they don’t have or are otherwise mis-advertised. Look at for features which seem too good to be true and be sure to check the specification across many different websites. If in doubt then contact the seller.

    Poor quality cameras:

    If there’s one spec where numbers don’t tell the whole story it’s the camera specs. Often you’ll see phones and tablets advertised with decent sounding camera’s, sometimes with unrealistically high mega pixel counts – if this looks to be the case then walk away, mostly likely the device in question will use some poor quality software trickery to interpolate a lower quality image to a higher resolution giving nothing like the quality stated. In this area there really is no substitute for impartial, third party hands-on write-ups and camera samples so you can see for yourself the actual quality on offer.

    Under performing chipset’s

    One of the first thing’s you’ll notice when comparing china phones is that they are most often powered by Mediatek in phones and Allwinner or Rockchip for tablets, rather than the usual Qualcomm or Exynos chipsets often found in western phones. This is primarily due to cost as these other chipsets are cheaper and don’t quite offer the same levels of performance you get from a top of the range Qualcomm or Exynos processor, in most cases though they are more than enough for 90% of people.

    The best chipset’s to look out for other than the establish Qualcomm and Exynos ones are currently:

    Phones
    Snapdragon 410
    Snapdragon 800
    Snapdragon 801
    Snapdragon 805
    Mediatek MTK6752
    Mediatek MTK6732
    Mediatek MTK6595
    Mediatek MTK6735
    Mediatek MTK6753
    Mediatek MTK6795

    Tablets
    Rockchip Rk3188
    Rockchip Rk3066
    Allwinner A31

    If in doubt, check out some benchmark scores to get an idea of performance, bearing in mind that multi-core processors may appear more potent than their true, real world performance – this is especially true of new octa-core proccesors so bear this in mind.

    Also be aware that each chipest has its limits so for example the Rockchip Rk3066 is a great chipest for up to 720p resolution but any more than that and you’ll see it struggle, so for want of a better phrase – “courses for courses”.

    3. Where to Buy From

    Broadly there are two types of place you can purchase your device, marketplace type websites or traditional online retailers.

    Marketplace sites

    These are websites that essentially act as a platform allowing you direct access to wholesalers and maybe even direct to manufacturers in some cases.

    The two best known of these types of websites are:

    http://uk.alibaba.com/
    http://www.aliexpress.com/


    Traditional Retailers

    Banggood - http://www.banggood.com/

    Pandawill – http://www.pandawill.com/

    Dealextreme – http://www.dx.com/

    BuySKU – http://www.buysku.com/

    Merimobiles - http://www.merimobiles.com/

    Honorbuy - http://www.honorbuy.com/

    Coolicool - http://www.coolicool.com/

    Chinavaison - http://www.chinavasion.com/

    Etotalk - http://www.etotalk.com/

    Mixeshop - http://www.mixeshop.com

    Antelife - http://antelife.com

    Minideal - http://minideal.com

    IBuyGou - http://ibuygou.com


    A number of these sellers have EU warehouses, allowing you to get your items delivered faster, and without any extra customs charges
    Sellers with EU warehouses:
    DX
    Merimobiles
    Honorbuy
    Coolicool
    Antelife
    AliExpress Seller
    Another Thanks to Spix for his recommendations here.

    4. Making Payment

    Use PayPal or Escrow


    5. Avoiding Import Duty

    Changing this as dodging customs is bad, m'kay? You can ask for the price to be marked down.

    The formula is (phone price in € times 1.23) and then +€6 through An Post or +€15 through a courier

    Final: If your phone is rooted, delete the bloatware, if not, apps such as Framaroot can be used to easily root most devices. A lot of MTK tutorials are universal, so if you've an MTK phone you'd like to root, any tutorial for that chip should work


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭ Ardennes1944


    LeTv S1 looks great, reminds me of my HTC M7.

    Gonna wait til widely available and see what prices I can get


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭ Iseedeadpixels


    The retailers part of the OP could be updated,4 I would advise is Etotalk, Chinavasion, coolicool and mixeshop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭ RossieMan


    take out the part about import duty or this will get closed before it even starts.

    Edit: i've just noticed it was in the original thread, never noticed it.

    Ignore this post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    Its only a calculator, I had asked a Mod to add it in the first place. Will update sellers now


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ seanin4711


    I know of antelife(never ordered off them).
    Wouldn't this be the best way to order avoid outside EU charges?

    john


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭ Iseedeadpixels


    Just order from euro warehouses, you pay a lil extra but still less than you would with customs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ seanin4711


    Just order from euro warehouses, you pay a lil extra but still less than you would with customs.

    any others offer eu warehouse that you know of?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,277 ✭✭✭✭ Steven Numerous Flare


    whats the odds that by page 2 someone will ask where they can buy a phone!!


    You should reference GizChina.com for product review

    Dont forget to add Xiamomi's new EU store from June 1st


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ seanin4711


    whats the odds that by page 2 someone will ask where they can buy a phone!!


    You should reference GizChina.com for product review

    no mention of eu warehouses in last thread,whats your issue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    seanin4711 wrote: »
    no mention of eu warehouses in last thread,whats your issue?

    They don't have to be bought in EU warehouses. I'll list what I know of to have EU Stock, and add Gizchina

    Should I keep the brunt of what's there or trim the fat a bit?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ seanin4711


    They don't have to be bought in EU warehouses. I'll list what I know of to have EU Stock, and add Gizchina

    Should I keep the brunt of what's there or trim the fat a bit?

    no dig at anyone just curious if many Asian sellers would have EU warehouses.
    follwed the original thread and found little mention of them.
    as stated antelife has it,many others?

    your intro is fantastic btw!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭ corwill


    seanin4711 wrote: »
    no dig at anyone just curious if many Asian sellers would have EU warehouses.
    follwed the original thread and found little mention of them.
    as stated antelife has it,many others?

    your intro is fantastic btw!

    Honorbuy (formerly xiaomishop) have an EU warehouse; relatively pricey anyway, and expensive delivery from the EU warehouse, but a few on here, me included, found them reliable in the recent past.

    Spix pointed out a couple of aliexpress sellers with some sort of EU warehouse type set-up on the old thread:

    http://m.aliexpress.com/store/storeHome.htm?storeNo=342812&tracelog=store2mobilestore

    http://m.aliexpress.com/store/storeHome.htm?storeNo=1153179&tracelog=store2mobilestore

    I've not used either, so can't say either way what they'd be like, but I'd be tempted to give one of them a spin next time I give into my phone-carnal desires.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭ corwill


    Should I keep the brunt of what's there or trim the fat a bit?

    Might be worth updating the list of SoCs to reflect newer-gen MTKs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭ Iseedeadpixels


    seanin4711 wrote: »
    any others offer eu warehouse that you know of?

    Coolicool and Merimobiles


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    Its Thargors OP, I just copy pasted it and updated like 2 parts

    Antelife, merimobiles, honorbuy have EU warehouses for sure, think banggood do too


  • Registered Users Posts: 517 ✭✭✭ MeTheMan


    Hello,

    Great thread!

    Isn't avoiding import duty illegal? Surprised Section 5 Avoiding Import Duty is OK to post. Anyway, I'm all for it! Both phones I've ordered I had to pay import duty on them, unfortunately.


    P.S Chinavasion link is wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    I don't know the names of the newer MTKs, I'm a bit out of the loop. Someone post them will ye?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭ corwill


    I don't know the names of the newer MTKs, I'm a bit out of the loop. Someone post them will ye?

    I'm one more beer away from sliding on to the floor here, I'll post something reliable in the morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    MeTheMan wrote: »
    Hello,

    Great thread!

    Isn't avoiding import duty illegal? Surprised Section 5 Avoiding Import Duty is OK to post. Anyway, I'm all for it! Both phones I've ordered I had to pay import duty on them, unfortunately.


    P.S Chinavasion link is wrong?

    Its not avoiding duty, its saying how much you should expect to pay. Edit* turns out there is a section on avoiding it. I'll fix that later too...

    I'll fix it in a bit, all the links are copy pastes of each other


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ seanin4711


    sold my beloved Lenovo A830 (2 years never skipped a beat!).
    would have went with etotalk previously but decided to shop around this time!

    Was looking at elephone p6000 http://www.to2c.com/elephone-p6000-2gb-ram-16gb-rom.html serious bang for buck!

    the umi emax http://www.to2c.com/pr/umi-emax.html nice looking machine!

    but settled on this

    http://www.to2c.com/lenovo-k3-note-2g-ram-16g-rom.html

    you can take lenovo from the man but you cant take the man from lenovo!

    best deal with to2c with cheapest shipping NL post etc etc!
    hope they are as good as they seem!

    review when I get it!
    slan
    Johnnyboy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 Digital Solitude


    Edited the OP again, cut out most of the needless ****e as people ask the questions regardless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭ jeffk


    Anyone ever have battery percentage issues?

    I have a elephone p6000 that takes over five hours to charge, then even when it goes down to 1% it won't die

    Got onto etotalk, told to take it out, put in charger, put in battery, turn on phone


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭ Iseedeadpixels


    jeffk wrote: »
    Anyone ever have battery percentage issues?

    I have a elephone p6000 that takes over five hours to charge, then even when it goes down to 1% it won't die

    Got onto etotalk, told to take it out, put in charger, put in battery, turn on phone

    Thats a problem loads of us had with the Elephone p6000, does it drain 5-10% within a few mins after a charge?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭ jeffk


    Thats a problem loads of us had with the Elephone p6000, does it drain 5-10% within a few mins after a charge?


    I don't think so, just the time remaining changes a lot

    Is there a fix for it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭ Iseedeadpixels


    jeffk wrote: »
    I don't think so, just the time remaining changes a lot

    Is there a fix for it?

    Update to Lollipop or a custom Rom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭ fixXxer


    Ah good to be home :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭✭✭ MartynasUr


    Meizu is not in the list of phonr manufacturers. They are i think 3rd most popular phone maker in china. They products are solid and they give long software support (2-4)years so even their older phones will get lollipop this year.
    I own currently their newest and best device ' meizu mx4 pro' - very good device, solid performance from exynos chipset, has fingerprint scanner at the front, 1440p screen, 20.7mp sony camera which is well optimised, good battery life.
    Usually theres a software update atleast once every second week. Current lollipop release has some small bugs, but kitkat was stable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭ jeffk


    Update to Lollipop or a custom Rom.

    Shame Xposed does/doesnt work.

    Always the way, solve one problem to cause another :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭ savemejebus


    jeffk wrote: »
    Shame Xposed does/doesnt work.

    Always the way, solve one problem to cause another :(
    At 1% I've noticed that if you play some music or turn on the torch and the battery should die pretty quick.

    You could also calibrate the battery from scratch if it's a big problem. I usually just throw it on charge every second night


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭ jeffk


    At 1% I've noticed that if you play some music or turn on the torch and the battery should die pretty quick.

    You could also calibrate the battery from scratch if it's a big problem. I usually just throw it on charge every second night

    Ive done all the tips listed,even one from etotalk.

    I was thinking do what you do, even on the second day a boost charge to get me to that night and then give a full one


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