The new trafic mess on the Quay.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i really like the emergency vehicles lane idea amongst other ideas you ve mentioned

and make the damn bridge free!



truly disgraceful decision.



please dont ever become a politician or a person that makes decisions that directly affects emergency personnel and their vehicles. this is a very serious matter and should be dealt with accordingly.

Ambulances and Fire tenders negotiate urban environments all of the time. Drivers are trained to do so. This idea that a city centre street should be designed to accommodate speeding vehicles is ludicrous.

Cabaal wrote: »

If a car won't get out of the way then you push them out of the way and bill them for damages,

Christ, what a wonderful idea. :rolleyes:


Bill the motorist. Not the Council who caused it in the first place.

7upfree wrote: »

1. We saw it held up in the video for 15 secs. There were more than likely other delays.

2. It is not practical to pull up on that median in parts, especially in a smaller car.

3. The emergency services themselves have said that the Quay is the desirable route - especially when someone's life is at risk. When a life is at risk every second counts.

Far more people were killed in Waterford because there was a dual carriage way through the center, than have or will die because of a 15 second delay.

Far more delay on the beginning of the Dunmore road because cars cannot pull over. there are bollards to stop this.

danjo-xx wrote: »

I feel the ES pain, why they had to make the medium soo wide on one half of the quay while the other end is very narrow but does the job.

Jesus Christ people it's a median not medium

Burning Bridges wrote: »

At least 3 in the past 10 years, plus numerous injured.

And you have the figures for the amount of people who died en route to WRH/UHW, specifically using the Quay?

In any case, the idea that the city centre quays should have either a dual carriageway or even a dedicated lane for emergency vehicles is a little silly tbh. Look, the traffic calming measures on the quay were badly needed, and long overdue.

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I've stayed away from posting in this thread, as it is a very frustrating thread to read that just keeps going round in circles.

The only reason I am posting is after a trip I took on Sunday when I drove onto the Mall. It was just after 3pm, not rush hour. I was stopped between the steps up to Bishop's Palace, and the Theatre Royal. The lights went green, and the traffic moved forward two car spaces. 3 light changes later, and I still hadn't made it to the Munster bar!! Traffic was back to the lights, and constantly filled by traffic from William Street.

Out of pure frustration, when the lights went green for the fifth time, I changed lanes to go down William street, around by Bolton street and up by Katy Barry's. Ended up going back to John Street, New Street, and up by Ballybricken to get to the bridge. I could see on my detour that traffic was at a standstill back as far as Rapid Express on Parnell street.

Granted, the quay looks lovely now, much more pleasing on the eye than before, but what good is having it look pretty if you can't drive onto the bloody thing!!? :mad:

Go back to cycling and you'll be grand ðŸ˜

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I've stayed away from posting in this thread, as it is a very frustrating thread to read that just keeps going round in circles.

The only reason I am posting is after a trip I took on Sunday when I drove onto the Mall. It was just after 3pm, not rush hour. I was stopped between the steps up to Bishop's Palace, and the Theatre Royal. The lights went green, and the traffic moved forward two car spaces. 3 light changes later, and I still hadn't made it to the Munster bar!! Traffic was back to the lights, and constantly filled by traffic from William Street.

Out of pure frustration, when the lights went green for the fifth time, I changed lanes to go down William street, around by Bolton street and up by Katy Barry's. Ended up going back to John Street, New Street, and up by Ballybricken to get to the bridge. I could see on my detour that traffic was at a standstill back as far as Rapid Express on Parnell street.

Granted, the quay looks lovely now, much more pleasing on the eye than before, but what good is having it look pretty if you can't drive onto the bloody thing!!? :mad:

it was always busy on mall and quays.
if you think your example is bad, try drving in KK, Dublin, Galway.
avoid mall and quays if you are driving through, bridge street easier.
last thing, if you drive through a city centre, you should be expecting traffic.

Max Powers wrote: »

it was always busy on mall and quays.
if you think your example is bad, try drving in KK, Dublin, Galway.
avoid mall and quays if you are driving through, bridge street easier.
last thing, if you drive through a city centre, you should be expecting traffic.

I don't think that's the answer either - the delays seem to me to be approaching gridlock at times with very little traffic getting through at all on green at some sets of lights at certain busy times . Some of the delays, particularly from Lombard Street direction are really severe. I wonder whether the new one way system that's planned could be the answer to our problems?

Another issue is the pedestrian lights on Parnell Street and The Quay. They give pedestrians too much time! I reckon the average able-bodied pedestrian could comfortably cross Parnell Street three times in the time allotted. A better approach would be a shorter green time, with a flashing amber sign also to allow extra time for slower pedestrians. I know that some people will say, who cares, it only holds you up an extra 10 or 15 seconds, can't you be more patient? However, what is happening is that holdups at the pedestrian lights at the bandstand thingy on the Quay are leading to tailbacks all the way back to the Parnell Street/Lombard Street/Tower Hotel lights, thus stopping traffic at these lights clearing the junction. A holdup at one point is causing further holdups further back. This problem also occurs to some extent with the lights at UHW.

I fully accept that we have to get used to some delays. The fact is that Waterford, like most other towns and cities, simply wasn't built for the car. However, even a few tweaks here and there could improve traffic flow.