Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

molloyjh · 22-05-2015 12:39PM

kleefarr wrote: »

Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

It's a good thing that this referendum has no impact on their ability to adopt or use surrogacy then....

mrkiscool2 · 22-05-2015 12:40PM

murpho999 wrote: »

That's my point if it's a strong yes, that I fully expect or a No then they will be able to indicate that as well.

Yeah definitely. But if the Yes-No side are between 55-45 % then they won't make a call as it would be too tight to call.

gandalf · 22-05-2015 12:40PM

The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

traprunner · 22-05-2015 12:40PM

kleefarr wrote: »

Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

And what if the sperm of the guys was mixed up in a tube and injected into a woman and that made her pregnant. Is it not their kid?

DoYouEvenLift · 22-05-2015 12:41PM

gandalf wrote: »

The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

There won't be as many people flying home for it anyway I'd say.

Knasher · 22-05-2015 12:42PM

I gotta say though, it always bugs me a bit when I see a bible (for people taking an oath) on the table in the polling booth. But it seems especially wrong when the catholic church were the largest (and probably most influential) group campaigning against this.

falan · 22-05-2015 12:42PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Twitter suggests urban and young turnout is high, while rural turnout is average/low.

Make of that what you will, but DON'T JINX IT!

I live rural and my polling station was pretty busy an hour ago. I saw a mix of ages there.

aloyisious · 22-05-2015 12:44PM

Merry Prankster wrote: »

Do you know where to get them in Dublin? I'm gonna get my sister to grab a few today.

The Yes Equality shop in Stephens Green S/C will probably be closed today but might be open. You can try the offices of G.L.E.N on Exchange St Upper. It run's parallel to Parliament St towards City hall from the liffey. Another place you might get one/some is the LGBT Community Centre The Outhouse at the top end of Capel St, by Parnell St across from The Black Sheep pub.

Knasher · 22-05-2015 12:44PM

falan wrote: »

I live rural and my polling station was pretty busy an hour ago. I saw a mix of ages there.

And I voted in Cork city, and the place was almost deserted. Though I did just miss a bus from an old folks home pulling away.

My name is URL · 22-05-2015 12:46PM

gandalf wrote: »

The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

I hope young people aren't put off from engaging in the case of it being defeated. I'd imagine it would be extremely disheartening if this was your first referendum and you've put effort into discussing it with people only for the No side to be victorious with all their lies and FUD.

Hermy · 22-05-2015 12:49PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.

Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to say. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

What have speech impediments got to do with anything?

falan · 22-05-2015 12:50PM

9.10am London-Holyhead train..
https://www.facebook.com/SolidarityTimes/photos/a.341910489331727.1073741828.341899462666163/366633133526129/?type=1&fref=nf

molloyjh · 22-05-2015 12:51PM

Hermy wrote: »

What have speech impediments got to do with anything?

Or simple nerves?

lizzyman · 22-05-2015 12:52PM

SILVAMAN wrote: »

Anyone come across the idiot Ali Selim and his write up on marriage in yesterday's Indo?
Nothing unusual in it, except the depths this guy goes to in order to justify his arguments. One of his arguments is When a male infant becomes a young boy, detaching him from his mother and attaching him to his father serves the best of his interest since it helps him form a healthy masculine identity. A father also plays an important role in his daughter's life. The father offers his daughter the first opportunity for a male-female relationship, non-sexual yet based on love.
Talk about scraping the barrel.....did this ass get his phD online?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/marriage-has-a-purpose-that-gay-unions-cant-fulfil-31240535.html

This is why we need constitutional protection.

I read that yesterday and found it shocking that it would even be published. The most cringe inducing part was when he went quoted some salon.com article saying that homosexuals were inherently promiscuous and therefore shouldn't be allowed to marry. He's forever trying to use the blasphemy law to block publication of anything that offends his own delicate sensibilities. We're not a theocracy amigo - Dublin airport is right there if you don't like it.

fr336 · 22-05-2015 12:57PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Twitter suggests urban and young turnout is high, while rural turnout is average/low.

Make of that what you will, but DON'T JINX IT!

If it's like most elections there will plenty of tricks going on to lull people into a false sense of security - NOBODY BE COMPLACENT!

Zubeneschamali · 22-05-2015 12:59PM

fr336 wrote: »

If it's like most elections there will plenty of tricks going on to lull people into a false sense of security - NOBODY BE COMPLACENT!

Odds at paddypower now at 1/33 Pass.

Just sayin'

aloyisious · 22-05-2015 01:00PM

For those who haven't voted yet, The White Ballot Paper is for the 34th (Marriage) amendment. The Green Ballot Paper is for the 35th (Presidential Age Change) amendment. There are two (2) empty boxes on each paper. As far as I can recall, the Vote YES box is the top one, the vote NO box is the bottom one. To vote your choice, just mark X in the ONE box of your choice on each paper.

I'm not passing comment as to why the boxes are in that position in the marriage vote.

Please remember that you can be challenged to provide proof of identity when you go to vote. RTE 1 Radio news reported that there are an increased number of challenges at Dublin City voting centres, to prevent voter fraud.

denhaagenite · 22-05-2015 01:02PM

the_monkey wrote: »

TWADDLE

WTF is morridge and where can I get some? Is it a super food? Is it like "The Kool- Aid"??

PopePalpatine · 22-05-2015 01:02PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Odds at paddypower now at 1/33 Pass.

Just sayin'

I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow!

RobertKK · 22-05-2015 01:03PM

gandalf wrote: »

The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

Very little.

They are not flying home for the Presidential age referendum or the Carlow/Kilkenny by-election, as it was said in Carlow/Kilkenny, some didn't know there was a by-election.
Would have to have been away to not know given there are several times more posters up for it than for any of the referendums.

wakka12 · 22-05-2015 01:03PM

Ill actually feel really sorry for the many who spent a lot of time and money travelling home from different counties or even abroad to vote yes if this doesn't pass:(

RobertKK · 22-05-2015 01:05PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow!

I'm going:
63% yes
37% No

Boring count, no nail biting. The by election to be more exciting.

SireOfSeth · 22-05-2015 01:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video? They're so patronising it hurts, did anyone see that awful one with the older lady with a white grey/fringe and wearing a pink cardigan? What a bitch. She was like talking about how the YES side are bullies basically, and trying to relate to people on the fence. She was like and look what happened to that poor lovely bakery up north who did nothing wrong, they were just against a political campaign and now their very livelihoods are at stake! I myself am even afraid to say right now that marriage should be between a man and a woman for fear Ill be eaten alive!

Such BS. Give me a break

Marriage as in civil marriage or the religious ceremony?

Not a NSA agent · 22-05-2015 01:08PM

Me and my girlfriend were voting yes to both so made it a lot easier. Would rather they just had an english and irish version available and put a bit more detail on them.

Expecting 57% yes for marriage and probably a no at around 63% for the president.

traprunner · 22-05-2015 01:08PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow!

It's now >60.5% @ 5/6. I reckon still in with a good shot of almost doubling money.

SireOfSeth · 22-05-2015 01:08PM

MathDebater wrote: »

I said it last night and I'll say it again - lot of people committing electoral fraud.

:eek: Wow! Really? Have you any evidence of that?

eternal · 22-05-2015 01:09PM

#voteyes. Change the world for the better.

Sever Tomorrow · 22-05-2015 01:09PM

Will they accept a garda age card as identification at the polling station?

eternal · 22-05-2015 01:12PM

Sever Tomorrow wrote: »

Will they accept a garda age card as identification at the polling station?

Yes.

road_high · 22-05-2015 01:12PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I'm going:
63% yes
37% No

Boring count, no nail biting. The by election to be more exciting.

The by election will be close. FF were favourite but I think FG will take it on transfers and a strong first vote preferences.

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