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Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

    It's a good thing that this referendum has no impact on their ability to adopt or use surrogacy then....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    murpho999 wrote: »
    That's my point if it's a strong yes, that I fully expect or a No then they will be able to indicate that as well.
    Yeah definitely. But if the Yes-No side are between 55-45 % then they won't make a call as it would be too tight to call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    kleefarr wrote: »
    Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

    And what if the sperm of the guys was mixed up in a tube and injected into a woman and that made her pregnant. Is it not their kid?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    gandalf wrote: »
    The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.


    There won't be as many people flying home for it anyway I'd say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    I gotta say though, it always bugs me a bit when I see a bible (for people taking an oath) on the table in the polling booth. But it seems especially wrong when the catholic church were the largest (and probably most influential) group campaigning against this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    Twitter suggests urban and young turnout is high, while rural turnout is average/low.

    Make of that what you will, but DON'T JINX IT!

    I live rural and my polling station was pretty busy an hour ago. I saw a mix of ages there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Do you know where to get them in Dublin? I'm gonna get my sister to grab a few today.

    The Yes Equality shop in Stephens Green S/C will probably be closed today but might be open. You can try the offices of G.L.E.N on Exchange St Upper. It run's parallel to Parliament St towards City hall from the liffey. Another place you might get one/some is the LGBT Community Centre The Outhouse at the top end of Capel St, by Parnell St across from The Black Sheep pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    falan wrote: »
    I live rural and my polling station was pretty busy an hour ago. I saw a mix of ages there.
    And I voted in Cork city, and the place was almost deserted. Though I did just miss a bus from an old folks home pulling away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,382 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    gandalf wrote: »
    The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

    I hope young people aren't put off from engaging in the case of it being defeated. I'd imagine it would be extremely disheartening if this was your first referendum and you've put effort into discussing it with people only for the No side to be victorious with all their lies and FUD.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,638 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.


    Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to say. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

    What have speech impediments got to do with anything?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Hermy wrote: »
    What have speech impediments got to do with anything?

    Or simple nerves?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lizzyman


    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    Anyone come across the idiot Ali Selim and his write up on marriage in yesterday's Indo?
    Nothing unusual in it, except the depths this guy goes to in order to justify his arguments. One of his arguments is When a male infant becomes a young boy, detaching him from his mother and attaching him to his father serves the best of his interest since it helps him form a healthy masculine identity. A father also plays an important role in his daughter's life. The father offers his daughter the first opportunity for a male-female relationship, non-sexual yet based on love.
    Talk about scraping the barrel.....did this ass get his phD online?

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/marriage-has-a-purpose-that-gay-unions-cant-fulfil-31240535.html

    This is why we need constitutional protection.

    I read that yesterday and found it shocking that it would even be published. The most cringe inducing part was when he went quoted some salon.com article saying that homosexuals were inherently promiscuous and therefore shouldn't be allowed to marry. He's forever trying to use the blasphemy law to block publication of anything that offends his own delicate sensibilities. We're not a theocracy amigo - Dublin airport is right there if you don't like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Twitter suggests urban and young turnout is high, while rural turnout is average/low.

    Make of that what you will, but DON'T JINX IT!

    If it's like most elections there will plenty of tricks going on to lull people into a false sense of security - NOBODY BE COMPLACENT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    fr336 wrote: »
    If it's like most elections there will plenty of tricks going on to lull people into a false sense of security - NOBODY BE COMPLACENT!

    Odds at paddypower now at 1/33 Pass.

    Just sayin'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    For those who haven't voted yet, The White Ballot Paper is for the 34th (Marriage) amendment. The Green Ballot Paper is for the 35th (Presidential Age Change) amendment. There are two (2) empty boxes on each paper. As far as I can recall, the Vote YES box is the top one, the vote NO box is the bottom one. To vote your choice, just mark X in the ONE box of your choice on each paper.

    I'm not passing comment as to why the boxes are in that position in the marriage vote.

    Please remember that you can be challenged to provide proof of identity when you go to vote. RTE 1 Radio news reported that there are an increased number of challenges at Dublin City voting centres, to prevent voter fraud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    the_monkey wrote: »



    TWADDLE

    WTF is morridge and where can I get some? Is it a super food? Is it like "The Kool- Aid"??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Odds at paddypower now at 1/33 Pass.

    Just sayin'

    I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    gandalf wrote: »
    The one positive about this referendum whatever the actual outcome turns out to be is that it has engaged a lot of the younger generation to get involved in a political campaign. I wonder what effect this will have on next years general election.

    Very little.

    They are not flying home for the Presidential age referendum or the Carlow/Kilkenny by-election, as it was said in Carlow/Kilkenny, some didn't know there was a by-election.
    Would have to have been away to not know given there are several times more posters up for it than for any of the referendums.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Ill actually feel really sorry for the many who spent a lot of time and money travelling home from different counties or even abroad to vote yes if this doesn't pass:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow! :D

    I'm going:
    63% yes
    37% No

    Boring count, no nail biting. The by election to be more exciting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video? They're so patronising it hurts, did anyone see that awful one with the older lady with a white grey/fringe and wearing a pink cardigan? What a bitch. She was like talking about how the YES side are bullies basically, and trying to relate to people on the fence. She was like and look what happened to that poor lovely bakery up north who did nothing wrong, they were just against a political campaign and now their very livelihoods are at stake! I myself am even afraid to say right now that marriage should be between a man and a woman for fear Ill be eaten alive!

    Such BS. Give me a break

    Marriage as in civil marriage or the religious ceremony?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Me and my girlfriend were voting yes to both so made it a lot easier. Would rather they just had an english and irish version available and put a bit more detail on them.

    Expecting 57% yes for marriage and probably a no at around 63% for the president.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    I put €20 on >59.5% @ 5/6 when I got into Dublin earlier. Let's hope I have some extra beer money tomorrow! :D

    It's now >60.5% @ 5/6. I reckon still in with a good shot of almost doubling money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭SireOfSeth


    I said it last night and I'll say it again - lot of people committing electoral fraud.

    :eek: Wow! Really? Have you any evidence of that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    #voteyes. Change the world for the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Sever Tomorrow


    Will they accept a garda age card as identification at the polling station?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Will they accept a garda age card as identification at the polling station?

    Yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I'm going:
    63% yes
    37% No

    Boring count, no nail biting. The by election to be more exciting.

    The by election will be close. FF were favourite but I think FG will take it on transfers and a strong first vote preferences.


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