Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

Dirty Dingus McGee · 22-05-2015 12:24PM

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up with all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so she just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get us to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

Zubeneschamali · 22-05-2015 12:24PM

CaveCanem wrote: »

'the right to procreate', which absolutely is stated in the constitution

I have it open in another tab, and the words "beget" and "procreate" do not occur in the Irish Constitution.

Perhaps you are thinking of some other country's constitution, or that of a country named Ireland on some other planet.

KevIRL · 22-05-2015 12:24PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up iwth all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get ius to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

You don't need the card. Just turn up with ID

Vivisectus · 22-05-2015 12:24PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up iwth all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get ius to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

You can still vote, I think. Just bring ID a voting station.

falan · 22-05-2015 12:25PM

road_high wrote: »

I find that really sad....

Believe me, so do i. My sister has been out for years and its just never mentioned with them.
I was talking with the father yesterday and he was saying he has no problem with people being gay its all about the "children needing a mother and a father for him. He also argued that he's voting no as a protest against the government. :rolleyes:

endacl · 22-05-2015 12:25PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up iwth all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get ius to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

You can vote. Rock on down and bring ID. Voter cards don't really mean anything. They just make the polling clerks job a little more convenient.

awec · 22-05-2015 12:25PM

When do we find out the results?

Baggy Trousers · 22-05-2015 12:26PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up with all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so she just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get us to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

You don't always need a voting card once you are on the list. My local station don't even ask me for ID anymore but I know them.

Vivisectus · 22-05-2015 12:26PM

CaveCanem wrote: »

Until enacted legislation to ban surrogacy is challenged in the supreme court, then they will have to decide whether 'the right to procreate', which absolutely is stated in the constitution, means the state cannot interfere with efforts made to vindicate that right, even if it is not obliged to provide such services itself.

At the moment, only families have the 'right to beget children' so any law banning surrogacy for unmarried people can be defended with reference to the constitution.

The fact is that infertile married couples are fairly few and there is no definite trend upwards. It is inherently self-limiting so the state can turn a blind eye.

If Ireland becomes the only county that has a constitutional right for same sex married couples to regard themselves as families under the constitution and at the same time has its hands tied in regards to surrogacy regulation, then Ireland could become an international destination for same sex couples who want to marry and obtain children through surrogacy. Much like the countries who first recognised same sex marriage became international destinations for couples who wanted to avail of same sex marriage.

As far as I know, there is just the right to start a family. Children are not necessarily involved.

Also, I would not worry. We have seen nothing of the kind in other countries that legalized gay marriage.

endacl · 22-05-2015 12:26PM

awec wrote: »

When do we find out the results?

Facebook will send out a tweet on youtube.

keithclancy · 22-05-2015 12:27PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was going to vote yes but I can't vote now as my mother threw out all our voter cards by mistake.She did it because our mailbox was clogged up with all these vote yes/vote no pamphlets and so she just thew them all in the bin.It now seems our voter cards were mixed up with all this stuff.

Ironic that if each side hadn't bothered trying to get us to vote we'd all be able to vote in the referendum.

Go vote now, you have no excuse anymore

You can even use a marriage cert, but don't try using a civil partnership certificate, its not valid as ID

PopePalpatine · 22-05-2015 12:29PM

FluffyAngel wrote: »

im guessing a lot of lollypops were taken off you as a child ...

And bags of Doritos, and plates full of "tendies". :pac:

mrkiscool2 · 22-05-2015 12:29PM

awec wrote: »

When do we find out the results?

We should know the full result some time tomorrow evening but the picture will be quite clear by 12 or 1 tomorrow.

DoYouEvenLift · 22-05-2015 12:30PM

It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.

Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to say. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

murpho999 · 22-05-2015 12:30PM

keithclancy wrote: »

Go vote now, you have no excuse anymore

You can even use a marriage cert, but don't try using a civil partnership certificate, its not valid as ID

You need a Photo ID. Passport, driving licence or even a Leap card with your picture.

My name is URL · 22-05-2015 12:31PM

Nodin wrote: »

As there usually is, I'd presume so.

RTE are usually the ones to do it though, and they've said that they're not this time round.

murpho999 · 22-05-2015 12:31PM

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

We should know the full result some time tomorrow evening but the picture will be quite clear by 12 or 1 tomorrow.

Don't they get a rough idea or general impression from the tallies when they open the boxes?

InTheTrees · 22-05-2015 12:32PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Does anyone know if an exit poll is being conducted today?

RTE said they werent.

But I;d assume someone is so presumably the result should be projected very soon after the polls close.

Senna · 22-05-2015 12:33PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.

Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to get across. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

Bit hard to stammer on ummmm boards.

Zubeneschamali · 22-05-2015 12:33PM

Twitter suggests urban and young turnout is high, while rural turnout is average/low.

Make of that what you will, but DON'T JINX IT!

sjb25 · 22-05-2015 12:34PM

Fat Christy wrote: »

I'm voting yes for the both of them in case I end up voting no for the marriage one by accident. I don't mind either way regarding the presidential election.

I did this tought it was only me ha

murpho999 · 22-05-2015 12:35PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.

Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to say. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

The average person regardless of nationality does not have media training or experience so it's normal to be nervous when publicly speaking.

So I don't see what your problem is.

mrkiscool2 · 22-05-2015 12:35PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Don't they get a rough idea or general impression from the tallies when they open the boxes?

A very rough idea. If it's tight they won't be able to make a call early, if it's not tight then they will be able to make the decision easier. But around 12 some of the smaller centres will give results and we will start to get an idea of how it is going.

mikom · 22-05-2015 12:35PM

awec wrote: »

When do we find out the results?

If turn on the tap tonight and pink lemonade flows forth the yes side has won.
A no win will be indicated by the tap producing Altar wine.

Canis Lupus · 22-05-2015 12:35PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Just realised that if this passes its going to cost me a fortune in wedding presents.... Why couldn't the No side have mentioned the expense, might have won a few stragglers over!

They won't be accepting thoughtless gift vouchers either.... So time AND money....

DoYouEvenLift · 22-05-2015 12:35PM

Senna wrote: »

Bit hard to stammer on ummmm boards.

I mentioned stammering directly after talking about people talking on the radio.

mikom · 22-05-2015 12:36PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

It's that the average Irish adult seems to have absolutely no ability to debate and deliver clear and relevant points. I'm basing this opinion mostly on what I see on social media but listening to people who call into radio shows to give their opinions is also cringe worthy, they cannot speak without stuttering and stammering and having to pause for thought with "uhhh" or "ammm" or breaking up sentences with "like". Dreadful grammar, ad hominems, irrelevant and off topic points, taking offence to facts, making sh!t up and stating it's fact etc. This is from both sides so I'm not being bias towards one or the other, I'm just looking at all of these from an outside perspective.

Here on Boards and other forums we actually grow accustomed to decent debators and even though you may not agree with their opinions and views you can at least understand what they're trying to say. I think this is why the idiots on Facebook really annoy me. When you have people who claim they're professionals who can't even string a sentence together it's honestly a little depressing.

Ummm, Ahhhh, ummm, it's biased by the way.

murpho999 · 22-05-2015 12:37PM

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

A very rough idea. If it's tight they won't be able to make a call early, if it's not tight then they will be able to make the decision easier. But around 12 some of the smaller centres will give results and we will start to get an idea of how it is going.

That's my point if it's a strong yes, that I fully expect or a No then they will be able to indicate that as well.

kleefarr · 22-05-2015 12:37PM

falan wrote: »

I was talking with the father yesterday and he was saying he has no problem with people being gay its all about the "children needing a mother and a father for him.

Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

jobbridge4life · 22-05-2015 12:39PM

kleefarr wrote: »

Same here. No problem with gays getting married, but having kids that they call their own is not right in my book.

The referendum will have no impact on whether gay people have children or not. The Children and Family Relationships Act 2015 expressly permits adoptions by gay couples.

Please vote yes.

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